Transposition, or: Ship Happens [Worm/Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio | Arpeggio of Blue Steel]

Wait, you're saying that Leviathan can go faster than light while in water?

Citation, please.
Legend doesn't go at light speed, because the closer to light speed he goes, the more it impairs his ability to think. The actual limit for "too simple to turn back" is probably significantly less than light speed, and his inner monologue in 14.y suggests he has his limits down to a point where he doesn't dare try to push that limit any more.
 
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I think faster is the wrong word. Impossibly agile is probably the correct one.
Right. Agility is key in a brawl (or dogfight), but less so when fighting at stand-off ranges as a navy generally prefers. Most parahumans brawl with the Endbringers, even the ones fighting at range are dealing with man-portable ranges, not the over-the-horizon bullshit that the big guns are capable of.
 
Leviathan's exact speed in water isn't explicitly specified, but we know it's faster than he is on land, faster than any parahuman speedster the PRT has records on, fast enough that Taylor considered that it might as well be teleportation.

Extermination 8.2
"Faster than he is normally, far faster than any speedster we have on record."

Extermination 8.5
With my power, I could track him beneath the water. He was moving so fast that it was almost as though he were teleporting, finding the drowning and executing them.

Legend might be able to go faster by technicality, but given what it does to his reaction times he's unlikely to in practice.
 
Right. Agility is key in a brawl (or dogfight), but less so when fighting at stand-off ranges as a navy generally prefers.
PT boats were notoriously difficult targets, practically impossible to hit at range, because they could (for example) U-turn and reverse course for several boat-lengths while a salvo was in the air. A larger target like a destroyer couldn't do that so effectively, and not just because it's less agile; if a salvo is off target by 100 feet, it misses an 80-foot PT boat but still might hit the 200-foot destroyer.

Leviathan is about a third the size of a PT boat, and considerably more agile. Leviathan can trace artillery trajectories through its storm. Standard naval guns simply couldn't hit Leviathan beyond knife-throwing range.
 
Leviathan is about a third the size of a PT boat, and considerably more agile. Leviathan can trace artillery trajectories through its storm. Standard naval guns simply couldn't hit Leviathan beyond knife-throwing range.
Well, yes. That's why traditional heroes are all fighting danger-close, all the time. What part of Taylor's armament is traditional? Lasers, masers and railguns solve many of those problems, and AI-controlled firing directors give new meaning to "dead accurate".
 
Consider the following: 1) Behemoth was not meaningfully damaged by Phir Se beam, that has potential to devastate India. SGC is far less powerful. 2) If bigger suit with bigger guns worked - Dragon used them. Instead she uses close-in brawler.

1) Behemoth is a dynakinetic, using an attack form based on overwhelming him with electromagnetic energy is doomed to fail at -best-, and simply empower him at worst.

Directly attacking him not with EM energy, but with directed and focused gravity waves -might- work, we've never been shown that he has control over gravity, just that all forms of electrical, magnetic, and energetic particles are under his control. Shattering his core via vibrating spacetime itself, that's a different kettle of fish.
 
using an attack form based on overwhelming him with electromagnetic energy is doomed to fail at -best-, and simply empower him at worst.
That was one of recognized dangers of the plan, yes. But due to sandbagging, he let attack connect. Leaving only his skeleton. But it was not meaningful damage.

Also, SGC, due to long charge-up and targeting sequence pretty useless against Leviathan and Ziz - they will have no problems with escaping path of the attack.
 
Consider the following: 1) Behemoth was not meaningfully damaged by Phir Se beam, that has potential to devastate India. SGC is far less powerful. 2) If bigger suit with bigger guns worked - Dragon used them. Instead she uses close-in brawler.
I would note that the Phir Se beam was operating under standard physics from what I recall, so even if it had more raw power behind it I'd argue that a SGC (which works through Gravity and Quantum schenanigans) or spread of Corrosive Torpedoes has a much better chance of actually dealing significant damage vs an Endbringer and their dimensional schenanigans.

The challenge of actually making them hit an Endbringer is still present due to their speed/manoeuvrability/active defences, but that's what sufficiently powerful gravity/klein field manipulation and the ever present 'more Dakka!' is for.
 
I wonder if their effects could propagate through the Corona and Gemma to the shard side?
Unlikely. Graviton manipulation doesn't have anything to do with dimensional anything – unless the Corona Pollentia & Gemma utilize an always-active and -open portal, that the gravity waves can spill into, the more-likely result would simply be the shard getting the equivalent of a "Connection Lost" message the instant the host's CP&G are destroyed.
 
I would imagine that corrosion torpedoes are probably the best bet against Endbringers.

If they let it hit.

None of the current three can be hit by physical weapons if they don't allow it. Ziz can dodge or simply intercept with TK rubble, Behemoth can fry it from inside out well outside of range, and Leviathan can do the same with water manipulation given that it's got enough power to shatter steel reinforced buildings when he wants to.
 
An Endbringer might let them hit thinking they are regular munitions, until the horrific damage is dealt, and then they might ramp it up to take out any future torpedo attacks.
 
If Ziz can precog the damage and judges it actually dangerous, the torpedoes will be blocked.

Hitting the other two is more likely, unless fanon comes into play and Ziz is whispering instructions to them.
 
Unlikely. Graviton manipulation doesn't have anything to do with dimensional anything – unless the Corona Pollentia & Gemma utilize an always-active and -open portal, that the gravity waves can spill into, the more-likely result would simply be the shard getting the equivalent of a "Connection Lost" message the instant the host's CP&G are destroyed.
Well, if you involve string theory, it does, actually.
 
I would argue that she's a non-human Shaker. I mean, really, her "body" is just an anthroform vehicle that her core is operating. The various technologies that she understands (anti-matter/matter reactors in pocket dimensions, for example) are definitely worthy of a Tinker rating. Not sure Changer applies at all, as "she" is permanently locked into the form of her core.

Admittedly, the PRT doesn't know any of this. I don't think they've ever gotten any information that puts her as anything other than a Brute with some Shaker secondaries.
 
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The correct answer is "all of the above" (except for Trump, Striker, and Breaker, but hey, 9 out of 12 isn't bad).

And Trump can be debated, contingent on whether or not QA decides to go collecting new members for the fleet.

This was what I had done, and people were already talking about what my powers could possibly be when one of the major informants said that I was some kind of Brute.

Exactly what I wanted them to think.

When my wave-force armor came out, I'd probably be labeled as a Shaker as well, doubtlessly a pretty powerful one once they learned exactly how strong it was. Right now it couldn't hold much, but I got the feeling that if I worked on it, I might be able to seriously increase the amount of damage it could take at once and how much energy I could hold in the Klein field before I had to release it.

I was apparently already pretty durable –being bulletproof wasn't anything to scoff at–, but the now-accessible capacitor-like energy storage manifold just took that to new levels.

Add on the Changer/Stranger rating due to my malleability, Tinker because of what I could build, Thinker because I could see/hear beyond human standards and do ridiculously complex math in microseconds, Mover for my speed, Master because of the control over my nanomaterial, and a Blaster subrating if I built those lasers, and I had something in almost every category.

…Yeah, I'd be keeping that suppressed as long as possible, though I knew it would all probably come out eventually.
 
Given what the PRT ratings are for, she's a Tinker.

Left alone to her own devices, she builds warships. That's a Tinker rating, and not a low one.

Not really. Tinker consists of "separate her from her stuff and she's mostly harmless," with sub-ratings for other threats based on what they've built.

A Changer is dangerous because of what they are, with subratings based on the powers their altered form gives them.

Since the constructs are all part of her consciousness, you can't separate her from her stuff, making Tinker precautions less than useless.
They might just slap S Class - Grey Goo on her and be done with it, though, if they knew her true capabilities.
 
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Incidentally, Taylor can have a Striker rating since she can generate toxins and put them into her nails. Or a touch effect anti hydrogen torch to really ruin someone's day.
 
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