To Establish Peace - A Romance of the Three Kingdoms Quest
- Thread starter Gaz
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- Alt. History Historic
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- barking
well unless Heracles or Achilles shows up I doubt Lu Bu will get Ultra instinct,
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- Vicksburg, MS
Liu Bei's revered parenting skills seem to match up with how well Shaggy and Scooby raised Scrappy, anyhow
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- USA
With all these revelations, can you really blame Zhuge Liang for wanting to stay well away from this hot mess?
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Merc gonna merc ya
I can only imagine the PR spin we can do if we saw that with our own eyes.
Liu Bei. Look at his benevolence as he throws his own child and heir into the ground like he was trash. How can you trust a man to do that to his own child, a baby for no reason?
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- Vicksburg, MS
Viewed from a certain perspective, that instance of baby-bashing could be viewed as propaganda in itself to demonstate that Liu Bei cares more about the big picture of his cause and preserving the lives of skilled generals to serve it than his personal life. That'd be in line with the acts of his hero Liu Bang, the founding emperor of Han; Liu Bang famously attempted to yeet his children out of his getaway cart to lighten it while his enemies were hot on his trail.
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Merc gonna merc ya
>propaganda or that baby throwing is a righteous thing to do
>Liang Shu does that
>Lu Lingqi will literally castrate Liang Shu if he does that if Lu Bu doesn't come and kill him.
Seriously tho even if he was frustrated, that was his heir! Some people even think Liu Shan got brain damage from that. It as if Liu Bei roll an nat 1 and roll a shitty second roll.
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- Vicksburg, MS
I'm not saying that we should do that in that hypothetical, just saying that it's wasn't necessarily done "for no reason" for it if it served that purpose for Liu Bei. For that matter, I think Lu Bu with his slaying two out of three of his fathers for sweet loot or love could appreciate that sometimes other things take priority over family.
I think Liu Shan hadn't been declared his heir yet anyway, since Liu Bei was not yet calling himself an emperor. Mindset was that you could just have more children, especially with multiple wives, whereas running low on good generals due to them pulling reckless stunts to save his family would get his entire cause wrecked if he was left without anyone skillful enough left to support it. Babies can't lead armies to punish the traitors.
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- Germany
You guys are aware that that incident was fictional and meant to just illustrate something, similar to the story about cannibalism. In history Zhao Yun did not fight through Cao Cao's army and saved the child, but he found them in the countryside and simply escorted them back, no big fight and no child on the ground throwing.
Anecdotal stories are often weird or look stupid, but are just meant to illustrate a certain virtue or vice, so they can be used to demonstrate a certain person had those things. A more elaborate and older example of show, don't tell.
Anecdotal stories are often weird or look stupid, but are just meant to illustrate a certain virtue or vice, so they can be used to demonstrate a certain person had those things. A more elaborate and older example of show, don't tell.
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- Vicksburg, MS
I'm aware that it's fake news, the point it was illustrating was not to make out Liu Bei as a monster or idiot though.
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- barking
So we have had two instance in which the bandits insult our army calling them weak boys and old men (the second one pointed out we had to resort to woman) I wonder if by now they learnt their lesson.
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- UK
Yeah these bandits are weak at insulting. They need to learn off some old masters.
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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- Canada
Hmm. What about going after those involved with our father's death to the extreme, but (partially) forgiving lesser crimes?
Or in other words, can we spare Maiyu's life, kill her father and make her into our maid?
Harem dreams live on!
Edit: yes I know it's a terrible idea. Otoh, it could become a theme after we kill lingqi's dad too.
Just going around China, killing dads and making their daughters... Ok this idea is cancelled nvm wipe it from your memory.
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Merc gonna merc ya
To Scam our enemies into giving everything, to make our enemies spit out blood from our words or letters or actions.
To kill an man with but a word or a letter or with a gift or even just a look. That is the truest path of Royalty.
>Letting a snake to live among us as a maid
>Rather than courting Lingqi as a gentleman or courting maiyu as a barbarian, you wish to court with death like a fool.
Fancy Face
Tactically Superior
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As someone who just caught up with this, the whole reveal with the Ge family was really spicy and put Liang Shu's convenient support from Maiyu into a whole new light, honestly uplifted the earlier sections for me that there was this whole scheme going on in the background narrowly avoided.
The fact Dong Zhuo has genuinely been the MC's best patron is absolutely hilarious. History has probably already been derailed hard going by Gaz's comments, but I hope Liang Shu gets a chance to repay the general's kindness in the future.
The fact Dong Zhuo has genuinely been the MC's best patron is absolutely hilarious. History has probably already been derailed hard going by Gaz's comments, but I hope Liang Shu gets a chance to repay the general's kindness in the future.
redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
- Location
- Canada
Hell's yeah my dude.
Besides, what do you got against danger noodles? Remove the danger and you're left with cute snek U=w=U
Great idea, let's go back and reread the story! Again! I was already considering this but you've finalized the decision.
See that's what I thought but for some reason y'all are hesitating? We have QM confirmation it'll be fine guyzzzz
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- UK
Small preview of the rolls I made for the month. In spoilers, in case you wanna wait for the update to guess/speculate what's happening.
Bing Province Security Rolls -
25 + 10 (historical bonus) - 20 (AWOL Lu Bu) - 5 (Heishan bandit activity) - 5 (Wings of Discord) = 5
Yellow Turban Fervour in Bing Province -
88 - 20 (ahistorical penalty) + 5 (Wings of Discord) + 10 (You Province Fervour Roll Domino Effect) = 83
25 + 10 (historical bonus) - 20 (AWOL Lu Bu) - 5 (Heishan bandit activity) - 5 (Wings of Discord) = 5
Yellow Turban Fervour in Bing Province -
88 - 20 (ahistorical penalty) + 5 (Wings of Discord) + 10 (You Province Fervour Roll Domino Effect) = 83
Sol Zagato
senseless brute
The Azure Sky is already dead!
The Yellow Sky will soon rise!
The Yellow Sky will soon rise!
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- UK
Again, don't open if you'd rather wait for the update.
Liu Yu, peace loving Inspector of You and scion of the House of Han, is dead. You Province is set ablaze by the Yellow Turbans. Enraged by his death, tribes of Wuhuan join the Han to avenge him, allying with Gongsun Zan of all people.
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Here's the Thing though... The Yellow Turbans, overall, can't win.
They can do much better then in OTL, sure. But in the end, they WILL fall. Anything else would be unrealistic. The overall Odds are just stacked too much against them.
I'm going to guess that the Yellow Turbans managed to sneak in Bing's main city and cause mayhem in the city, leading to Ding Yuan's assassination.
Edit: Just saw Gaz's post, nevermind...
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- USA
Like how the odds were stacked against Liang Shu at the beginning of the quest?
The difference is that Liang Shu had to deal with Bandits. Not Hundreds of Thousands of Trained Soldiers.
Unless the Dice go completely wackadoo, the Yellow Turbans just won't last in the Long Run.