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Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age
- Thread starter Powerofmind
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High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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- He/Him
That would be...
-However many bone figurines are converted (probably like 5 or 6? so if they're the moderates, then call it 5*5*2 = 50?)
-1 okay, 1 moderate, 1 good gem figurine : 4*3 + 5*3 + 6*3 = 45
-2 VP, 1 Poor amber figurine: 2*2*4 + 1*3*4 = 16 + 12 = 28
So a total of 123 points, 137 counting the shrine boost.
Honestly, unless @Powerofmind can tell us anything more about how far along we are, per Gaerig's knowledge in-universe, i'd personally use most or all of the amber figurines and not even transmute the bone figurines...though i guess thats if we assume rituals all need specifically crafted amber figurines, instead of generic ones, and so our regular amber figurines are only good for shrine boosts.... Hmm.
Holy Site = Temples + Holy Place
It was explicit during the discussion. The upkeep even increases by +1 for every Temple built.
Point. I'll edit it.
The better Amber figurines are held for rituals.
Just an oversight.
Amended see the harvest moon specification tweaked too.DE: 269-64(Avatar)-217(Divine)-15(Commune) = 0/269
Ambrosia: 15-12(reform)-1(Temple) = 2 /9
Sustenance: 0+40(reform)-6(Avatar Upkeep)-13(Avatar)-10.5(Communes) = 10.5 /40
Realm: 40-15(Upkeep) = 25/60
[X] Plan Rite of the Inscrutable
Divine
-35 Inspirations = 5 * 7
-13 Water = 13 * 1
-26 Darken = 13 * 2
-26 Freeze = 13 * 2
-30 Moonlight
-35 Silver Moon
-35 Harvest Moon
= -200 DE
-[X] Inspire Petitioner - Expend DE to give inspiring visions and dreams to a petitioner who comes to your shrine or prays to you. Inspirations are naturally stronger than Blessings, but affect a more limited number of people. Inspirations can target individuals of choice and grant specific skills. Costs: 5 DE x7 = 35 DE
--[X] Omen Reading x3
--[X] Astrology x3
--[X] Trickery x1
-[X] Control Waters*** - You have innate lordship of water and all it's forms, but you have especially strong ties to The Sea, The Cold and The Sky. Costs: 13 DE x1
--[X] Command Clouds [How] x1
---[X] Call Rain x1
-[X] Deadly Chill** - Suck the warmth from the earth and from all life, coating it in frost. Costs: 13 DE x2
--[X] Freeze [What?] x2
---[X] Freeze food
-[X] Darken** - Artificially draw away the light, strongly enhancing Melee, Ranged, War, Trickery, and Survival skill tests. Costs: 13 DE x2
--[X] In your territory x2
-[X] Moonlight** - The moon shines bright this night, revealing things that hide in the dark. Can cause Weird, also empowers a number of relevant actions (Avatar actions using Trickery, Astrology, etc. and Influence Acts excluding Blessings or Inspirations). Costs: 30 DE
--[X] In your territory
-[X] Silver Moon* - The silver moon, gray and dull upon an indigo night, colored to better contrast the stars and reveal their incredible secrets. Very strongly alters Astrology actions and empowers Wind Influence acts. Costs: 35 DE
--[X] In your territory
-[X] Harvest Moon* - The orange moon of change, wealth and transformation, cast by the turning of the seasons. Transforms the Inanimate and empowers Fire Influence acts. Costs: 35 DE
--[X] In your territory
---[X] Bone
Avatar Sustenance
-2 Lure x2
-1 Stars - Future
-1 Stars - Ritual
-1 Omens - Future
-1 Omens - Ritual
-1 Mystic - Ritual
-1 Equip Item
-1 Gift Item
-2 Innovate
-2 Painting
= -11 Sustenance
Avatar DE
-12 Lure = 6 * 2
-8 Stars - Future
-12 Stars - Ritual
-8 Omens - Future
-12 Omens - Ritual
-12 Mystic - Ritual
= -64 DE
-[X] Form Avatar (12 Ambrosia)
-[X] Lure - Seduce and enchant the incautious, leading them to their doom. Costs: 6 DE x2
-[X] Study Stars - Study the skies and stars, seeking patterns that will tell you what was, what is, and what may yet be. (Highly Enhanced Effectiveness of all sub-actions)
--[X] Read the Future - Look forward to what has not yet been, but may yet be. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, including direct mechanical bonuses with high enough success, and warn you of potential dangers in future turns. Costs: 8 DE
--[X] Develop Ritual of Unknowable Bodies. Costs: 12 DE
-[X] Study Omens - Study the thrown bones, the light of the sun upon the clouds, and the entrails of the dead that will explain to you the results of your choices.
--[X] Read the Bones - Read the best way to do the things you wish done with the crafted bones. Will aid you in a number of ways during the turn, and reduce potential backlash. Costs: 8 DE
--[X] Develop Ritual of Unknowable Bodies. Costs: 12 DE
-[X] Study World - Examining the signs and functions of the world, you may determine how things are they way they are.
--[X] Refine a Ritual. Costs: 12 DE
---[X] Ritual of Unknowable Bodies
-[X] Use Items
--[X] Equip an item
---[X] Songstress' Amulet
--[X] Gift an item
---[X] Waterskin Cloak (Tier 3 Clothing) to Ghette
-[X] Innovate something! x2
--[X] Electrum
--[X] Amber
-[X] Create Art x2
--[X] Cast paints upon a canvas of hide and fur x2
Commune Sustenance
-1 Build Temple(allowed extra 0.5 sustenance in case we need to spend that to move the wonder)
-0.5 Demand
-2 Saiga
-1.5 Saitev
-1 Keshketev
-1.5 Attrouska
-1 Fox
-0.5 Seski
-0.5 Ghette
-0.5 Gaelte
-0.5 Frauma
= -10.5 Sustenance
Commune DE(Communes with our pantheon are free now that we have an avatar, since they're next door to us)
-10 Build Temple
-5 Fox
= -15 DE
Commune Ambrosia
-1 Build Temple
= -1 Ambrosia
-[X] Make Demand - You have need of something and you will tell people what you want. Issues per turn: 10
--[X] Demand that people gather their food stores where you're freezing.
-[X] Build a Temple - You are a Goddess! You are deserving of an incredible edifice to your divinity! Maximum Temples 1/3. Costs: 1 Ambrosia, 10 DE, Significant amount of materials (uses T0 materials for construction if not provided personally).
--[X] Continue work on [Keshketev's Basin] temple (4 successes stored).
--[X] Dedicate 2 Very Poor Amber Figurines
--[X] Dedicate 1 Poor Amber Figurine
--[X] Dedicate 2 Moderate Amber Figurines
--[X] Dedicate the Transmuted version of the 1 Poor and 7 Okay Bone Figurines
--[X] Dedicate the Dark Gemstone ONLY if it would have the same effect as using it to improve a shrine.
--[X] If overflow on construction results, put that towards moving the Painted Stars improvement to the temple.
-[X] Commune with Saiga.
--[X] Learn about him (Current circa turn 13)
--[X] Request something
---[X] Gift him a piece of amber
---[X] Ask him to go with you to search for a Plant spirit next year.
---[X] Ask him to build a shrine near your new temple when it's convenient for him.
---[X] Ask if he wants you to try to transmute his new weapon, if it's made of bone. Include it in your Harvest Moon if he agrees.
-[X] Commune with Saitev.
--[X] Learn about him
--[X] Request something
---[X] Gift him a piece of amber
---[X] Ask him to go with you to search for a Plant spirit next year.
---[X] Ask him to build a shrine near your new temple when it's convenient for him.
-[X] Commune with with Keshketev.
--[X] Learn about him (Current circa turn 21)
--[X] Trade something
---[X] Pay in Amber for crafting your amber, up to 20 pieces expended total.
-[X] Commune with Attrouska.
--[X] Learn about her (Current circa turn 22)
--[X] Request something
---[X] Gift her a unit of Malachite Green
---[X] Request that she teach people how to write.
---[X] Ask her to build a shrine near your new temple when it's convenient for her. You understand that this may take a while for her to have the resources to spare for it. You can wait.
-[X] Meet with the Fox Spirit, who will probably demand a contest when you meet him. Costs: 0.5 Sustenance per option, 5 DE (One time)
--[X] Learn about him
--[X] Request something
---[X] Ask him about the rest of his pantheon.
-[X] Visit Seski's family
-[X] Have Ghette join you in your Mystic research
-[X] Bring Gaelte some small birds, now that he has the Sea Pixies at his beck and call.
-[X] Have the Frauma help with your Harvest Moon transmutations
Reasoning:
-With Excellencies piling up that are difficult to Despise, we need a lot of progress towards Inscrutable One, so in it goes with one in every category
-With many Ritual research actions being done, Moonlight and Silver Moon becomes a natural fit to buff it.
-Which means Inspires go to Astrology/Omens too
-And since we're using Silver Moon, might as well work some weather
-Darken makes for some VE generation on it's own, and empowers Lures.
-And with the Trickery Excellency, Lure is now the most powerful action for generating VE per cost investment. Go spooky at people between the Moon and the Darkens
-Deadly Chill is an experiment. Maybe we can generate Growth with it, maybe we'd explode the berries into icecream or maybe it's just harmless VE. We'll see.
-Harvest Moon is needed to turn the low value materials into high value materials. Then dump a crapton into temple building. Maybe we can get lucky and finish early.
-Speaking of the temple, time to start up the pantheon gathering place. Need to tell them early so that they can put effort towards it in their own time.
-And get Attrouska working. Gift her some ink to get her in a good mood, then have her propagate writing.
-Send out the invites to go explore next year.
-I finally broke out the excel:
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High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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- He/Him
I must have missed that discussion... @Powerofmind do temples count as holy places, either in general or for the gateway we've got?
I dont see the changes you made?
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Text does seem to imply they have to be specific type.
Okay, so I'll switch to commit all figurines but bone.
What do you want this turn? What can I do to have you vote for my plan?
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
[X] Sivantic
What a babe, y'all
What a babe, y'all
Powerofmind
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In a technical sense? Sort of? They receive the same benefits and are generally on a similar level of power, but Temples are very distinct from holy places/sites.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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Not really sure; i was gonna write up my own plan but at this point i'm just gonna laze about a bit more then go to bed; having my driving lessons at 9am is a good way to get myself back on a sleep schedule before classes start up again, but they also mean my normal habit of getting rid of excess energy through this quest and other nerdy, thought heavy stuff late at night doesn't work since i dont have that excess energy most nights
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Okay. How about a little more vague. What direction do you want to take Gaerig? It would make it easier to take in different views into consideration when making plans.Not really sure; i was gonna write up my own plan but at this point i'm just gonna laze about a bit more then go to bed; having my driving lessons at 9am is a good way to get myself back on a sleep schedule before classes start up again, but they also mean my normal habit of getting rid of excess energy through this quest and other nerdy, thought heavy stuff late at night doesn't work since i dont have that excess energy most nights
Powerofmind
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Not by what I could tell of the general discussion at the time. You want to add them, fine, but I said Holy Sites because the vast majority of people were voting for a holy site gate.
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Dark Abstraction
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[X] Pandemonious Ivy
Proxying my vote cause I have trouble staying up to date with this and I want to make my vote count.
Proxying my vote cause I have trouble staying up to date with this and I want to make my vote count.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
[X] Sivantic
Though mot without a caveat.
Though mot without a caveat.
Did I miss something about Rituals or isn't like outright making a vote to blow up due to insufficient power?
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I have Divine Mystery in my plan as well as gifting the cloak to Seski.
You can substitute Ambrosia for DE and visa versa. You cannot mix them with Ambercrafts however.
So no this shouldn't cause us to blow up.
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Okay, is there anything in particular that you want? I recall you saying that you wanted a Grand Lighthouse and was part of the Monster Crowd. Any particular Monster you're shooting for? Anything else you might be shooting for?
Dark Abstraction
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I'm easy to please. I like megaliths and vast structures venerating our magnificence, and I am partial to monsters resembling those of grecian myth; Cerberus, Medusa, Hekatonkheires, the Mares of Diomedes, things like that.
Overall, my vision of Gaerig is a tempest; I'd have preferred weather as a focus over celestial objects, but I'll make due. I want her to be a goddess of the seas as much as she is one of the night skies.
Alright. Gotta punch more holes when its built then
Originally, but she doesn't need it anymore. She'd ascend on her own.
Better to help make sure the younger kids make it to ascension.
Also, note that Divine Mystery just means we run out of trait slots even faster.
Inscrutable one is the only way out of that hole long enough to pick up Chimera.
Or we can just lock ourselves out of Chimera I suppose.
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I dunno I just copy pasted the vote cause I don't have that much time today
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Wow veekie. Fearmongering much?
Inscrutable One isn't the only way to get Chimera @Athas . We simply continue as we are now. Avoid Fear Gluts, and despise when we hit trait cap. We've finally reached the point where Arcana Nox traits n longer dominate the Fear Buy Table.
Divine Mystery is a pretty good way to try. Despise traits as a Fear Spirit. Sleep for the relevant traits as a Faith Spirit.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
The main advantage of Divine Mystery is to allow Gaerig to digest her Legend and give everyone a break after accidentally blowing up again.
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My opinions on things:
- I like both plans in principle, most of the details in both are fine by me.
- Siren might sound nice in concept, but it's just a minor spirit trait, with pretty weak bonuses (which means it just takes a trait slot without adding much), that's why I don't really want it now.
- Chimera and animal aspects aren't all that interesting or important to me. The one I find the most important is Humanity, which we have (although it is still not upgraded if I'm not mistaken). Most of the available animal traits are unattractive to me because the crunch and/or fluff (I won't be against them on principle or anything, just won't push for them).
- I REALLY don't like being a fear spirit, a bit because of the fluff, but mostly due to the mechanics (the need to harm something in order to get anywhere reliably, the constant chance of exploding, the lack of control on traits, etc.). Which is why I'm supporting Divine Mystery (which would allow us to do peaceful turns more effectively when needed, as well as get some traits/attributes more reliably) and especially A&F (which would remove the planning ahead and ritual requirements for the benefits).
- Capricious One could be useful (although not necessarily the answer to all our problems), especially since it has a Faith ability as well, which we'll discover once we get Divine Mystery (and A&F allow us to get both at the same time). It will allow us to stay around the trait cap with traits we want more easily, but the cap will still be there, and it won't actually help us get things we actually want... The fear but will still be problematic.
- The reason I'd rather give the cloak to Seski is purely from a story stand point. It was made with her in mind, it allows her easier access to our Realm, she's our eldest child and I think she'll turn 18 next turn. The fact that she's pass the threshold doesn't mean we should just stop caring about her...
Finally, my preferences regarding future traits (roughly in this order)
- Omen Seer and than Mystic (it will open an additional traits slot as well as a skill slot, which means the earlier the better).
- Divine Mystery and A&F.
- Maybe Capricious One.
- Finally upgrading the traits we have that are still low level (improve them without taking extra slots). That's as far as we can get with the correct trait cap.
- Shapeshifter, it's both useful and thematically.
- Maybe some other animal aspect and than Chimera, depends on the animal.
- Elemental abilities, Sun, Sea, Sky, etc. I love them, but the biggest problem is that they take tons of space.
Anyway, for now I'll abstain, maybe I'll change it later when I decide which plan I prefer.
[X] Abstain
(Who know, maybe some day I'll actually take the time and write a plan myself)
- I like both plans in principle, most of the details in both are fine by me.
- Siren might sound nice in concept, but it's just a minor spirit trait, with pretty weak bonuses (which means it just takes a trait slot without adding much), that's why I don't really want it now.
- Chimera and animal aspects aren't all that interesting or important to me. The one I find the most important is Humanity, which we have (although it is still not upgraded if I'm not mistaken). Most of the available animal traits are unattractive to me because the crunch and/or fluff (I won't be against them on principle or anything, just won't push for them).
- I REALLY don't like being a fear spirit, a bit because of the fluff, but mostly due to the mechanics (the need to harm something in order to get anywhere reliably, the constant chance of exploding, the lack of control on traits, etc.). Which is why I'm supporting Divine Mystery (which would allow us to do peaceful turns more effectively when needed, as well as get some traits/attributes more reliably) and especially A&F (which would remove the planning ahead and ritual requirements for the benefits).
- Capricious One could be useful (although not necessarily the answer to all our problems), especially since it has a Faith ability as well, which we'll discover once we get Divine Mystery (and A&F allow us to get both at the same time). It will allow us to stay around the trait cap with traits we want more easily, but the cap will still be there, and it won't actually help us get things we actually want... The fear but will still be problematic.
- The reason I'd rather give the cloak to Seski is purely from a story stand point. It was made with her in mind, it allows her easier access to our Realm, she's our eldest child and I think she'll turn 18 next turn. The fact that she's pass the threshold doesn't mean we should just stop caring about her...
Finally, my preferences regarding future traits (roughly in this order)
- Omen Seer and than Mystic (it will open an additional traits slot as well as a skill slot, which means the earlier the better).
- Divine Mystery and A&F.
- Maybe Capricious One.
- Finally upgrading the traits we have that are still low level (improve them without taking extra slots). That's as far as we can get with the correct trait cap.
- Shapeshifter, it's both useful and thematically.
- Maybe some other animal aspect and than Chimera, depends on the animal.
- Elemental abilities, Sun, Sea, Sky, etc. I love them, but the biggest problem is that they take tons of space.
Anyway, for now I'll abstain, maybe I'll change it later when I decide which plan I prefer.
[X] Abstain
(Who know, maybe some day I'll actually take the time and write a plan myself
)