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Really?
How's that Siren Ritual looking?
How many turns past before Sea Pixies came up?
What rank is that Ruined Garment?
Time of the Gods: Into the Amber Age
- Thread starter Powerofmind
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How's that Siren Ritual looking?
How many turns past before Sea Pixies came up?
What rank is that Ruined Garment?
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
*cheers Siv on from the sidelines*
We no longer have a use for Siren. As rituals go it fills a hole we don't have, given that we have no room for traits for another two Shrine ratings
Every other turn since we hit the Avatar levels to do it without crippling activities.
No rank, the enchantment is broken, but we have discovered a copper ore and can work on smelting it for repairs once the Malachite Innovation works.
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Would you say the same thing to the animal aspects?
What about the people that wanted Chimera?
Oh that's right.
They were sacrificed for your interest in magic.
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
[X] Plan Hopefully Stop Breaking Things
...a weird tangent? What does people favoring animal aspects over magic losing the election have to do with anything? You do recall everything is further complicated by the Fear buy system?
I can't say I understand your complaint. Not only is it not a rebuttal to his defense (I assume you retract the examples you used, then) but it's...
...a weird tangent? What does people favoring animal aspects over magic losing the election have to do with anything? You do recall everything is further complicated by the Fear buy system?
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We got the ability to breed them in anyway now. And the discussion is still moot until we free up another 4 trait slots so we can actually roll non-Nox traits at all.
The problem has always been slot availability. Chimera remains extremely valuable for that reason. But we've also been warned that we need Shapeshifter Avatar to do so safely.
We have, to date, not have had the opportunity to have the 3 trait slots free to do this without Nox flooding them out. We don't even have the skill room without Mystic to fuse Stargazer and Omen Reader.
Practical considerations. Not political.
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I do not retract the examples, veekie does not get to decide for all of us what we do or do not have a use for. We've had rituals to grab desired traits for a while now. Yet no attempt has been made to grab those traits.
Conveniently letting you grab the traits you want first while pushing others to the bottom of the list. Heck we've been losing the traits that made Gaerig a water elemental.
We knew from the beginning that turning into a local goddess would make grabbing outside traits difficult. That was part of the reason so many were against it. Even then we were soothed by people saying that effort would still be made to grab those traits.
Yet here we are.
Yes veekie it is political.
Everything is always political.
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[X] Plan Hopefully Stop Breaking Things
Van Ropen
Angry, angry about elves.
That's one of the three.
I'm pretty sure several failed plans involved working on the ritual.
They failed.
Look, your complaint is just fundamentally pointless. If those things had more support, they'd be in. They don't have enough support. I say this as a supporter. "wah that's political" doesn't accomplish anything but fomenting ill will.
I want to point out that my most desired traits have been just as left out. At this point barring very lucky weirds or a ritual I'm not getting that Eclipse trait.
I'm also one of those who actually wanted to despise Spirit of Stars/Premonitions, except they are Nox, so I couldn't even if they are using precious space, they will just roll up again.
Nor am I researching the rituals I want, on the simple basis that until we have a temple, Shrine capacity and the Nox traits cleared out, its a waste of effort.
I'll just work towards the tools to get the tools to make it feasible. Rituals are still going to be monstrously expensive and risky until we develop greater Mysticism, which I've also been training every turn by using Study Worlds on our stuff.
So we're slowly moving ahead on having the props to tank a ritual, and the capacity to endure rituals failing. Unlike making monsters, this actively impedes progress and risks self destruction. So more setup.
If we were Faith it'd have been much simpler. And slower
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
[X] Gaerig Sulks
Apparently the only way for Gaerig to not blow things up is to do things that literally cannot blow up.
I sincerely hope this is one of those.
Apparently the only way for Gaerig to not blow things up is to do things that literally cannot blow up.
I sincerely hope this is one of those.
Pretty clear it just leaves Gaerig unable to act other than churn blessings for the next few turns.
Gaerig is unable to act unless she gets her Avatar back anyway. Keeping the DE full just to keep it full is not something I consider "fun". We are supposed to be a Fear spirit, with periods of hyperactivity followed by periods of calm. The mindset of "we always need to have the maximum amount of DE possible" does not really support that. In a Fear turn with lessened appeasment we can fill the tank with no problem at all, if the need comes up. No need to hoard a resource just to hoard a resource.
I pretty much completely agree with this, I only have an issue with the idea that Seski is anywhere near enough to solve this problem. The only traits she would have on ascension are EA water and mischief, quite frankly that is not enough as a spirit to offset the constant damage we cause. This is why I have been starting to suggest having a straight up god child with Saiga. This way we don't have to listen to the bitching about how we are killing our daughter, set any nasty little precedents on that front, AND we have someone capable of actually mitigating the shit we get up to.
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[X] Gaerig Sulks
Personally I feel that Gaerig randomly going nuts and violently starving to death at people for no explained reason and then doing nothing anyone can actually figure out for a year is a fantastic way for Gaerig to generate fear. Nothing breeds paranoia like a ponderous silence from someone that is always rather loud.
Gaerig has at least to major blind spots: 1) realizing she is the cause of the death and destruction around her and 2) realizing that she should actually explain things to other people. A good example of this is in the last interlude in which she failed to explain why her daughter shouldn't go into in that direction. Your boyfriend (or you) could be squished by that crazy, blood dripping spirit... is a good explanation for lack of going over there. Her kid thought she was under village arrest (for wandering off) instead. Bit of a disconnect there.
Gaerig does absolutely nothing anyone can figure out with a lot of time, dumps 100 DE into ~something ~something and people are going to wonder what the hell she is doing this time... this is the entity that went up a divine rank for no remotely explained reason. This is Gaerig who will make a personal universe and it won't occur to her to bother mentioning it intentionally.
Gaerig is a manifestation of the fear of things that suddenly happen for no adequately explained reason.
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At this point I think the things Gaerig needs most are a way to control her sustenance levels (mayhaps points in survival?) and to actually invest in leadership for better use of commands with too few details.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to try and make a deal with the pantheon craft spirit to carve amber (he is really, really good at this) for Gaerig. A deal where he gets to keep the lowest quality carving of every X carvings should work. Once the deal is made just like just show up one day with giant sack of like 50 amber and drop it in his lap and wander off. The legend that generates should be hilarious.
Personally I feel that Gaerig randomly going nuts and violently starving to death at people for no explained reason and then doing nothing anyone can actually figure out for a year is a fantastic way for Gaerig to generate fear. Nothing breeds paranoia like a ponderous silence from someone that is always rather loud.
Gaerig has at least to major blind spots: 1) realizing she is the cause of the death and destruction around her and 2) realizing that she should actually explain things to other people. A good example of this is in the last interlude in which she failed to explain why her daughter shouldn't go into in that direction. Your boyfriend (or you) could be squished by that crazy, blood dripping spirit... is a good explanation for lack of going over there. Her kid thought she was under village arrest (for wandering off) instead. Bit of a disconnect there.
Gaerig does absolutely nothing anyone can figure out with a lot of time, dumps 100 DE into ~something ~something and people are going to wonder what the hell she is doing this time... this is the entity that went up a divine rank for no remotely explained reason. This is Gaerig who will make a personal universe and it won't occur to her to bother mentioning it intentionally.
Gaerig is a manifestation of the fear of things that suddenly happen for no adequately explained reason.
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At this point I think the things Gaerig needs most are a way to control her sustenance levels (mayhaps points in survival?) and to actually invest in leadership for better use of commands with too few details.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to try and make a deal with the pantheon craft spirit to carve amber (he is really, really good at this) for Gaerig. A deal where he gets to keep the lowest quality carving of every X carvings should work. Once the deal is made just like just show up one day with giant sack of like 50 amber and drop it in his lap and wander off. The legend that generates should be hilarious.
Abby Normal
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Hey @Powerofmind a couple quick questions:
1. Can external bonuses exceed the 10 skill cap?
2. our omen reading is listed wrong, though it only matters currently if the above is true:
(11) (10). I guess technically right now its 5 (9) since we dont benefit from equipment at the moment.
1. Can external bonuses exceed the 10 skill cap?
2. our omen reading is listed wrong, though it only matters currently if the above is true:
We've got +5 OR, so it looks like you missed the bonus from our new title:
3. This also is minor and mostly based on the first question, but if external bonuses can't exceed the cap, then our survival is listed wrong and should be 5
4. You might have answered this already, but why didn't we gain either of the magics when we picked up Spirit of Mysteries? I thought you mentioned a while back that having a magic without the skills needed to use it would give us understanding of the magic, just not the ability to actually use it?
Powerofmind
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Of course, the Gaerig thing to do would be to show up with the 50 Amber, tell him he's allowed to carve it and then get annoyed when proper tribute isn't paid.
Powerofmind
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18 to 14 in favor of Try not to break your toys.
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
No vote calling, we need everyone to succumb to pettiness
Pandemonious Ivy
Panties, Revolution. Big Drawers. Parachute.
@Dark Abstraction come be petty with us