[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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BagFullOfLizards
Some bag, mostly lizards
- Location
- A bag
Aww, we are having an effect on her! 😄
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
I'm really looking forward to the polar tribes response to this. "This just proves our point about keeping sovereigns out of politics!"
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
Imagine what it's going to be like a century from now!
And just think Renxiang it's only been two-ish years so far.
Imagine what it's going to be like a century from now!
- Location
- the internet
Kinda torn. The arguments for #2 are sound, we need her to be functional for the rest of the summit since LQ wont be.
However someone made the point that CRX's retainer shouldn't be showing her up....
I'll vote this for now but may change it later depending on how the vote goes:
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
However someone made the point that CRX's retainer shouldn't be showing her up....
I'll vote this for now but may change it later depending on how the vote goes:
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
globalwarmth
ruining the weather.
- Location
- Polar ice caps
[x] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded
If she has to topple bright mom she needs to embody the machine more than the hero
If she has to topple bright mom she needs to embody the machine more than the hero
[x] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded
Godzillaslayer10
I am ready for this quest!
- Location
- Somewhere
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
Lady_Story
Humble Teller of Stories, Villainess of Legend
- Pronouns
- She/Her/They/Them
To be honest this is what Ling Qi does best. She nearly dies and because of it basically keeps pace with the ducal scions. It's honestly pretty genius. She gets the coolest stories in the process of staying on pace with the people who have essentially become her peers.
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[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
- Location
- somewhere over there.
- Pronouns
- They/It
Thinking about it, I feel like the second option is probably going to be better regarded by any Polar Nations people who happen to see this all happening. Much better for general stability if the heir apparent of their potential allies at least acts like a reasonable person. Sure, it'll become a caricature of leadership as she becomes more powerful, but that's still far better than a warrior queen.
CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
- Location
- Somewhere
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
The clocks ticks. Measured, careful, yet always forward.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
Looking at the scenario:
-Nightmare Monsters are pourting out of liminal cracks everywhere. Renxiang's attacks are supereffective against Dreamstuff.
-We have higher realms raising a wall and manning it. Wang defenses are static, Luo forms a harrying force.
-Polars likely highly disturbed, their defensive measures are readied fortunately, but they will require considerable reassurance.
-Ling Qi is likely too barbequed to do much in the way of diplomacy for the last segment.
-The supply of nightmares is not quantity based but duration based since the source is in the Liminal, and it will last as long as the Sovereign fight does.
--This isn't the worst of it yet, thats when Deming dies and all the power bound up in him is unleashed.
Option 1: Renxiang moves out to blast as many as she can.
-Opponents are dispersed, there is no large concentration of targets for her to get a decisive opening strike, she would have to deliberately place herself as bait to get such a thing.
-This does not take good advantage of Wang defenses, as it moves the focus of the attacks outside those defenses.
-This enables Luo harrying to work more aggressively on clearing the field.
-There is a high chance of Renxiang needing to tap into Liming for this, and the resulting incapacitation, rendering her unable to do any diplomatic smoothing.
-Lone Hero rushing out to do battle with impossible odds is highly regarded by Imperials, but is more associated with Perkunas for the Polars. Useful to scoop up extra achievements domestically, but unlikely to help convince the Polars that we're sane, reasonable people when the sanest, most reasonable persons they've interacted with just did a YOLO.
-Stamina issue may be a bigger factor, Renxiang is going all out immediately, but the monsters will keep spawning until the Liminal battle is over.
Option 2: Renxiang fights as part of the defense formation
-Impact is limited, Renxiang's role here would be to break up concentrations of enemies where they threaten to overrun the defense, or the harrying forces.
-This maximizes the benefit of Wang defenses, as all key targets are within them and they'd have to be overcome first.
-This keeps Luo forces on a conservative posture.
-Renxiang conserves Liming usage, and is likely going to be able to participate in the final part of negotiations and deal with the inevitable questions from the Polars.
-Renxiang would be performing As Expected for both Imperials and Polars. Useful to act as a stabilizing force in the aftermath, less useful to scoop up lots of personal credit.
-Renxiang more likely to be in condition to still act if there is a final nasty surge.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
As such there really is no reason to take option 1 unless Renxiang is hard up on prestige.
This is tower defense, flying out in front to nuke the first wave isn't productive, however cathartic it may be, we don't need to go gloryhounding.
-Nightmare Monsters are pourting out of liminal cracks everywhere. Renxiang's attacks are supereffective against Dreamstuff.
-We have higher realms raising a wall and manning it. Wang defenses are static, Luo forms a harrying force.
-Polars likely highly disturbed, their defensive measures are readied fortunately, but they will require considerable reassurance.
-Ling Qi is likely too barbequed to do much in the way of diplomacy for the last segment.
-The supply of nightmares is not quantity based but duration based since the source is in the Liminal, and it will last as long as the Sovereign fight does.
--This isn't the worst of it yet, thats when Deming dies and all the power bound up in him is unleashed.
Option 1: Renxiang moves out to blast as many as she can.
-Opponents are dispersed, there is no large concentration of targets for her to get a decisive opening strike, she would have to deliberately place herself as bait to get such a thing.
-This does not take good advantage of Wang defenses, as it moves the focus of the attacks outside those defenses.
-This enables Luo harrying to work more aggressively on clearing the field.
-There is a high chance of Renxiang needing to tap into Liming for this, and the resulting incapacitation, rendering her unable to do any diplomatic smoothing.
-Lone Hero rushing out to do battle with impossible odds is highly regarded by Imperials, but is more associated with Perkunas for the Polars. Useful to scoop up extra achievements domestically, but unlikely to help convince the Polars that we're sane, reasonable people when the sanest, most reasonable persons they've interacted with just did a YOLO.
-Stamina issue may be a bigger factor, Renxiang is going all out immediately, but the monsters will keep spawning until the Liminal battle is over.
Option 2: Renxiang fights as part of the defense formation
-Impact is limited, Renxiang's role here would be to break up concentrations of enemies where they threaten to overrun the defense, or the harrying forces.
-This maximizes the benefit of Wang defenses, as all key targets are within them and they'd have to be overcome first.
-This keeps Luo forces on a conservative posture.
-Renxiang conserves Liming usage, and is likely going to be able to participate in the final part of negotiations and deal with the inevitable questions from the Polars.
-Renxiang would be performing As Expected for both Imperials and Polars. Useful to act as a stabilizing force in the aftermath, less useful to scoop up lots of personal credit.
-Renxiang more likely to be in condition to still act if there is a final nasty surge.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
As such there really is no reason to take option 1 unless Renxiang is hard up on prestige.
This is tower defense, flying out in front to nuke the first wave isn't productive, however cathartic it may be, we don't need to go gloryhounding.
- Location
- Shakopee, MN
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
We have a defense to ensure runs smoothly. Like clockwork, even.
We have a defense to ensure runs smoothly. Like clockwork, even.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
- Location
- Australia
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
For the aesthetic.
For the aesthetic.
- Location
- United States
[X] …And Cai Renxiang remained on the earth, letting loose her light with caution, in close coordination with the harried White Plumes left in the lower valley away from the conflict raging on the cloven mountain. Relying on their defenses to preserve what was important, until the tide receded
I really feel like our whole enterprise works best if, of the three main people, only one of them is doing something wildly dangerous at any given time.
I really feel like our whole enterprise works best if, of the three main people, only one of them is doing something wildly dangerous at any given time.
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Hm. Actually is this is a choice for whether, or not CRX goes through a tribulation?
Because it would make sense for the defenses to hold in the absence of any reason to focus upon them by a Sovereign, and once said Sovereign goes boom there are other allies cultivators to reinforce them.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
In regards to the vote I'll go with rising to the challenge as while there is a certain amount of risk from CRX being absent from the 4th round of negotiations it is an opportunity as well, and such an absence would allow LQ/GG to use it as a catalyst to build upon the shared ties that stretch beyond clan. Since the favor among the Emerald Seas is high, and a quick glance at the list of counts indicates none of them have a strong incentive to take advantage of the Cai heiress being absent due to injuries occurred from an internal ES problem.
So I'm not particularly worried about CRX being absent as the count clans doing their part in her absence would make for an interesting 4th arc, and is the type of thing that should take on a life of its own as members of the count clans play up how they did their part when the heiress was laid low doing her part via plays/songs/stories/etc, which should translate more of the favor for the project into favor for Renxiang that independent of her mother.
Because it would make sense for the defenses to hold in the absence of any reason to focus upon them by a Sovereign, and once said Sovereign goes boom there are other allies cultivators to reinforce them.
[X] …And Cai Renxiang rose into the sky, and let loose with her Mothers Light, her light. In this nightmares of stagnancy she could feel her opposite. They would come to snuff her out, in exclusion of all else, relieving the other parties involved at cost to herself.
In regards to the vote I'll go with rising to the challenge as while there is a certain amount of risk from CRX being absent from the 4th round of negotiations it is an opportunity as well, and such an absence would allow LQ/GG to use it as a catalyst to build upon the shared ties that stretch beyond clan. Since the favor among the Emerald Seas is high, and a quick glance at the list of counts indicates none of them have a strong incentive to take advantage of the Cai heiress being absent due to injuries occurred from an internal ES problem.
So I'm not particularly worried about CRX being absent as the count clans doing their part in her absence would make for an interesting 4th arc, and is the type of thing that should take on a life of its own as members of the count clans play up how they did their part when the heiress was laid low doing her part via plays/songs/stories/etc, which should translate more of the favor for the project into favor for Renxiang that independent of her mother.