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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
Doramas said:
[] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.

I don't like the expression that creating something new implies the end of came before.
That's the foible of the Jungle Goddess and Shenhua. Change for change's sake, even at the cost of destroying the good that already exists.
Old things can protect and nurture new things. Inspire and guide them. An enabling force rather than something that an obstacle that has to be teared down.
There is no such harsh divide between old and new. Old things can, minor changes that end up giving birth to something completely different. Can you even pinpoint when something "ended", in that case?

[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.

I like this one much better.
Rather that giving worth to the present by arguing it will give way to new things in the future, it argues that the present itself holds value by itself, even if it ends.
It's a greet way to keep in contact with the mortal world even as Ling Qi's cultivation advances. Just because mortals don't live long, doesn't mean they don't matter.
I also think it's a good counterpoint to the Soveregnity of higher realms. Remember what Gridya said about the Iron King: "The first duty of a king is to perpetuate themselves".
Ling Qi isn't working so she or what she builds lasts forever. But it still has meaning. She is spending so much effort becuase she wants to improve the lives of the people living now, as well as the one who will come in the future.
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I feel as if this kind of ignores the way that in real life, people clutch onto things even as they're dying. Yes, it's good to acknowledge that a thing doesn't have to last forever to have meaning, but it seems like it encourages riding the present into the grave, not because you think that things shouldn't be allowed to end... but because it's actually really hard to grasp when that time is.

So often the person riding the present into the grave at the cost of generations to come is someone who might hypothetically agree with the idea that all things pass... but that doesn't help with their ability to recognize when that time has come and when riding the present chokes and kills the future.

E: With perfect understanding of the time of Ending, of when something is "meant" to end, it is no problem... but such a thing is impossible. And I think that more damage has been done clinging onto the present order of things even within impermanence than there has been damage by changing things too fast.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by EternalObserver on Jun 10, 2023 at 10:48 AM, finished with 103 posts and 75 votes.
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[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.

Doramas said:
Ling Qi isn't working so she or what she builds lasts forever. But it still has meaning. She is spending so much effort becuase she wants to improve the lives of the people living now, as well as the one who will come in the future.
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That's literally the definition of "working so she or what she builds lasts forever" :V

"conflating impermance with meaninglessness is folly" doesn't really sound that great if it means just shrugging off someone undoing your humanitarian/social justice reforms a few years/decades/centuries later because "eh nothing lasts forever". Especially if it means Ling Qi winds up growing more apathetic to the suffering of mortals and low-level cultivators as she ascends to higher Realms because "eh all things die, can't change that".

The other insight at least means caring about what might happen after Ling Qi dies/ascends rather than living forever in the present because "Que sera, sera. Whatever will be will be."

Now to return to lurking and wait in hope for the Sixiang/Ling Qi OTP to sail.
 
[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
If seeing how impermanence strips meaning from everything is folly, I guess I'm a fool. Who needs meaning anyway?

[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
[x] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Ending is absolute, all things fall and wither and rot in time. The greatest folly is conflating impermanence with meaninglessness.
 
[X] Endings come and Endings go. To create, what came before must end. Knowing that your works too are but the materials for the next beginning is wisdom.
 
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