Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I am attempting to imagine the 'arguments' going on in the Spirit Realm between Immaculate Angles Everlasting and the Crowfather about just how the runes/formations are supposed to work, here between the borders of the two nations, in the middle of the Wall.

I am also failing. Alas.
 
I am attempting to imagine the 'arguments' going on in the Spirit Realm between Immaculate Angles Everlasting and the Crowfather about just how the runes/formations are supposed to work, here between the borders of the two nations, in the middle of the Wall.

I am also failing. Alas.


This is a circle.

No this is a circle.

What are doing with powers of six. Either five or eight would clearly be better.

Eight, eight! What are you doing with eight when nine is sitting right there.
 
I am attempting to imagine the 'arguments' going on in the Spirit Realm between Immaculate Angles Everlasting and the Crowfather about just how the runes/formations are supposed to work, here between the borders of the two nations, in the middle of the Wall.

I am also failing. Alas.

Oh no. If only we had a formations genius interested in our project and new formationcraft methods to help meld the two systems.

*Eyes Xuan Shi and Wang Lian*
 
Glass stands to reason. Glass requires good, pure sand as feedstock and a completely absurd amount of fuel.
"I was informed by a certain old woman that I am a 'cautious poppet'," Ling Qi said wryly. "Not a common compliment for me."

Jaromila looked mildly horrified, Ilsur took a look at her expression and let out a bark of laughter.

"I will never claim that you are not serious in this then," the tribesman said.
Ilsur: She's ride or die enough. I'm in.
 
The Emerald Seas wrath may turn downward, without further provocation from the mountains."

It was vague, but it felt safe to share that much.
It probably is safe, but boy would it give some folks on our side of the table aneurisms to know we're handing out broad strokes medium-term strategic prioritizations of the Emerald Seas.

Which is why it's good they're not privy to all of our diplomatic efforts. Also, we're very cute and should be able to do what we want.

This was a fun update!!! Lots of fun things learned:
  • Firstly, the Sun are becoming an ever bigger thorn that I thought! It looks like Shao has already started attacking, so now lots of tribes are trying to get the manpower needed to fight.
  • Ling Qi technically counts as a Cloud Tribe shaman. I hope we meet one soon, just to talk more about their craft. Also, it kinda explains why Ilsur is interested in dreamwalking. His dad is trying to become Khagan to stop the war, and having a powerful shaman, or knowledge of shamanism can help him.
  • Formationcraft and the Crowfather are the WS' claim to fame. It's really good that they met the ES with Glorious Oppression Mom's current revolution going on.
  • Jaromila is staying! The mediation and event roll just got even more exciting!!!
I'm also really curious about how the alter mantles since they view successors differently. Maybe it can help with crafting future successors. This will help a bunch with ToN.

Edit: Also, I can't wait for the next Astronomer Wu interlude! If he exchanges research with them, we can probably get support from the imperial astronomers.
I think we can't really be sure of what the movements of the tribes means, just yet.

Jaromila gave her a curious look, and she realized she had let her discomfort show. The other woman didn't comment. "Contacted tribes were not where they claimed they would be. There has been growing raiding in the east, and fear in the west."

"Some Khans who were willing to speak were overthrown, the challengers taking their people west. Some were subjugated by other tribes," Ilsur said with a shrug. He squinted down at a skewer of roasted meats and vegetables he had plucked from the meal table. "It is the way of things, though it is faster these days. More confederations, small ones, squabbling at the feet of behemoths. No matter the outcome, the Mother Mountains will not be the same again."
There's been an uptick in raiding in the east of White Skies/Seared Lands, which we'd already learned in our earlier meeting. There's concerns of increased raiding in the west of White Skies/Tangled Pines, which is new information. And there's some degree of migration to the west among tribes which had more diplomatic elements lose control.

It's difficult to pinpoint why they'd move that way, because there's multiple reasons it could be. One thing that pops to mind is that the western stretch of the Wall that extends south of the Emerald Seas is below Meng lands. The Meng don't have the same militarized discipline and force presence in their southern lands, which means less outwards pressure from their borders on Cloud tribes in the area. All other factors being equal (and they probably aren't), this makes it easier for tribes to live in the same area. So it could be something as simple as that. It could also be part of an anti-empire staging effort taking advantage of the less stringent border presence among the Meng/Blue Mountain Sect.

It could also be something Sun Shao related, but that's not necessarily the first assumption I'd go with.
 
It probably is safe, but boy would it give some folks on our side of the table aneurisms to know we're handing out broad strokes medium-term strategic prioritizations of the Emerald Seas.

Which is why it's good they're not privy to all of our diplomatic efforts. Also, we're very cute and should be able to do what we want.


I think we can't really be sure of what the movements of the tribes means, just yet.


There's been an uptick in raiding in the east of White Skies/Seared Lands, which we'd already learned in our earlier meeting. There's concerns of increased raiding in the west of White Skies/Tangled Pines, which is new information. And there's some degree of migration to the west among tribes which had more diplomatic elements lose control.

It's difficult to pinpoint why they'd move that way, because there's multiple reasons it could be. One thing that pops to mind is that the western stretch of the Wall that extends south of the Emerald Seas is below Meng lands. The Meng don't have the same militarized discipline and force presence in their southern lands, which means less outwards pressure from their borders on Cloud tribes in the area. All other factors being equal (and they probably aren't), this makes it easier for tribes to live in the same area. So it could be something as simple as that. It could also be part of an anti-empire staging effort taking advantage of the less stringent border presence among the Meng/Blue Mountain Sect.

It could also be something Sun Shao related, but that's not necessarily the first assumption I'd go with.

I know there are other possibilities for the tribes moving to the west, but Shao was my first assumption for a few reasons:
  • There's an undercurrent of fear in the west. If it was because of available land in the Meng county, I doubt there wou;d be pronounced fear.
There has been growing raiding in the east, and fear in the west.
  • We've recently heard that Shao has been mustering an army in the South, his largest since he conquered the Jungle. We also know that he wants to fight the nomads to gain some rep.
"They are attempting to build a port again. It seems significantly more successful than their last attempt," Meng Dan replied. "But I assume you mean the troop movements in the south. Which are significant Reports indicate at least twenty thousand Sun soldiers, Third realm all. It is their largest muster since the initial conquest of the west. Also…" he trailed off, and his perpetual smile dipped.

The jungle has been more active too, but I admit that'll require talking to the Tangled Pines to get a clearer picture.
  • There's a precedent to tribes overthrowing their leadership to go join war. It's happening with the Twelve Stars already. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again to fight on a new warfront.
 
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I know there are other possibilities for the tribes moving to the west, but Shao was my first assumption for a few reasons:
  • There's an undercurrent of fear in the west. If it was because of available land in the Meng county, I doubt there wou;d be pronounced fear.

  • We've recently heard that Shao has been mustering an army in the South, his largest since he conquered the Jungle. We also know that he wants to fight the nomads to gain some rep.


The jungle has been more active too, but I admit that'll require talking to the Tangled Pines to get a clearer picture.
  • There's a precedent to tribes overthrowing their leadership to go join war. It's happening with the Twelve Stars already. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again to fight on a new warfront.
I think there's a crossed wire happening here. Pretty sure the sentence "There has been growing raiding in the east, and fear in the west." is talking from White Sky concerns/perspectives, not those of unaffiliated Cloud tribe. There's more Cloud tribe raiding in the east, and there's concern that might happen in the West thanks to migrations of undiplomatic tribes. Ilsur and Jaromila aren't speaking the perspective of Cloud tribe of the Wall. That's my read on it.
 
Glass stands to reason. Glass requires good, pure sand as feedstock and a completely absurd amount of fuel.
It is my understanding that for as long as people have been able to make lenses, and used them to observe, the very best observatory lenses have been tremendously expensive. What those lenses are and what they can do is always improving, but the fact that you can always pour more money in to get something that is larger, of higher quality, or more precise curvature? It does not change.

The Empire looks like it's a lot better at crafting in general than its neighbors. By extension, they can expect to have straight-up better lenses... which means that their best will be well beyond anything that the White Sky could possibly afford to produce for themselves.
 
Empire has large amounts of very varied resources, and an environment that allows for large scale agriculture and cities.
That allows for lot of advancement in craftsmanship and material sciences.
Polar Nations, are probably absolute geniusses in number of narrow areas that Empire can't match, but resource crunch, or just not having lot of resources at all, will make it lot harder to advance in other areas.
 
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Ling Qi pursed her lips, if she was going for a strong personal connection…. "Would you be opposed to some small demonstrations?"

Ilsur observed them silently, Jaromila considered her question, and very slowly smiled. "I may be, what did you have in mind, Emissary Ling Qi?

It seems we are doing Frozen Desire as a public spar, trading pointers with each other. Developing our Successor Art by facing someone more experienced in and knowledgeable about the Yuki Onna spirits' arts seems pretty beneficial.
This reminds me of how Cai Shenhua and Bai Suzhen publicly revealed their alliance with their match in the Year End Tournament. A nice parallelism. And a good way to declare that we have a closer than just professional relationship with Jaromila and to showcase her abilities to dispell the notion of the White Sky being unrefined barbarians.
Really glad we took the personal approach here.

Also, this is a curious way to circumvent the riskiest option of the General's vote, the one about sharing the capabilities of each side.
Sure, it's just going to be us and maybe a couple of other people. But it's still a demonstration of strength, providing a point of reference, and highlighting the differences in cultivation methods and their combat applications.
I hope people are most interested in the WS's cultivation than mad we unveil our own.
 
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It is my understanding that for as long as people have been able to make lenses, and used them to observe, the very best observatory lenses have been tremendously expensive. What those lenses are and what they can do is always improving, but the fact that you can always pour more money in to get something that is larger, of higher quality, or more precise curvature? It does not change.

The Empire looks like it's a lot better at crafting in general than its neighbors. By extension, they can expect to have straight-up better lenses... which means that their best will be well beyond anything that the White Sky could possibly afford to produce for themselves.
The reason for the cost is:
-Pure, clean sand of appropriate quality is bulky and only occurs in relatively few areas. Such sand with specific qi traits is even worse.
-Producing glass requires extremely high temperatures, and thus a great deal of fuel. High quality optical glass requires performing multi-step chemistry to what is essentially a form of molten rock, extending the fuel costs further. This is compounded by the temperature of the environment, as that applies as a passive rate of loss.


For the Polar Nation, making glass is legit going to take a powerful cultivator or spirit, to basically grind down quartz crystals to make the feedstock, and another to melt it, and another to work it. And that in turn means limits on the qi composition.
 
look look, I'm looking for it in the long term. No need for her to come back right away, she does have stuff to do right now in the Patreon Available Story that features her as the protagonist. By joining YRS' patreon you get access to that story, plus early access to various side-story commissions! If you can't wait for Xiulan to come back, consider joining the Patreon today!

but for us on the main story? I think it'll be much longer. I can't imagine the Gu sending their heir into an active province-level warzone. That's just a bad idea, and why they pulled her from the sect. I think it'll be awhile to actually secure any trade route anyway, so the first step would be an excursion to scout for potential profit. I think it's probably the groundwork for a much later arc, because I can't imagine Renxiang and pals touring the White Sky before they even do a tour of the Emerald Seas.

Still, I'm excited. I'm a big fan of Xiulan and I like these early peeks at how she'll be able to visit the story again, even if it's brief c:
 
Finally caught up again. I had my disagreements with some of your choices, but if I'd cared that much I shouldn't have stopped posting in this thread.
That old woman is the gift that keeps on giving. In trauma.

Also would any kind people give me the super cute red envelopes?
I was going to give you my laughter, but alright. :V
"That would explain some of what I see in you now, Emissary Ling Qi," Jaromila said, her examination showed a touch of concern. "Such journeys are reckless for the mortal minded."

"I was informed by a certain old woman that I am a 'cautious poppet'," Ling Qi said wryly. "Not a common compliment for me."

Jaromila looked mildly horrified, Ilsur took a look at her expression and let out a bark of laughter.

"I will never claim that you are not serious in this then," the tribesman said.

"Then I have gained another benefit from it," Ling Qi said.
Imagine how fucked someone would be if they went dreamwalking while thinking it was safe.
 
Finally caught up again. I had my disagreements with some of your choices, but if I'd cared that much I shouldn't have stopped posting in this thread.

I was going to give you my laughter, but alright. :V

Imagine how fucked someone would be if they went dreamwalking while thinking it was safe.
Welcome back! We've been following your progress through the thread by the reactions you gave out! So what was your favourite part of what you read recently?
 
Welcome back! We've been following your progress through the thread by the reactions you gave out! So what was your favourite part of what you read recently?
Why must you make me choose?

My very favorite would be Ling Qi herself. Recently, that means her struggles in her own personal nightmare and in attempting to bring the answer she found into reality.
Speak up. Let the salt flow
I hate vote salt, though.
 
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