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Deathstorm50 said:
Like I said, I'm still voting for it, but there's sure to be more ramifications. Especially if we do it just after introducing DnD to the wizarding world. Also, sorry if this has come already and I missed it, but I just felt this was an important thing to say.
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A spell or even a few from DnD is unlikely to be considered too suspicious since Harry can basically say that he used the game as an inspiration and attempted to create effects that emulated things from DnD. Heck, if we use the excuse of accidental magic experimentation, most wizards will probably figure that Harrys subconscious mind latched onto the childrens game (odds are the adult wizards will view it as one) for concepts.

It might eventually (after we have lots of spells from DnD) lead to someone suspecting things, but I figure by then it won't really matter much anymore.

As for Detect Evil itself. It might have some ramifications if it can be taught, but not massively so. Afterall, you can't really go around killing everyone that registers as "Evil". GM has ruled that Draco would be Neutral Evil, but he has committed no crimes (and might potentially change his ways I guess).

It works great here however, because we are detecting evil in a being that CANNOT be evil, therefore revealing that the rat is NOT a rat but an evil shapeshifter. I guess it would also work for revealing spies and such, but none of the Malfoys (for example) really have much to worry. If Lucius got scot-free despite being basically branded by Voldemort as one of his closest followers, then a spell that says "Evil" won't suddenly change things. It won't change all that much even IF Harry could teach it.

As for coming up with a spell, its remarkable yes. But as has been said already, Harry is basically going to be an absurdly insane prodigy due to the crossover anyway. So either we basically avoid using nearly all our skills for most of the quest (booring), or just accept that Harry will be viewed as the person who mastered the entire curriculum perfectly during his first year.
 
Datakim said:
As for coming up with a spell, its remarkable yes. But as has been said already, Harry is basically going to be an absurdly insane prodigy due to the crossover anyway. So either we basically avoid using nearly all our skills for most of the quest (booring), or just accept that Harry will be viewed as the person who mastered the entire curriculum perfectly during his first year.
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I wasn't going to suggest we not use all of our skills to the best of our ability, I'm concerned, not crazy. I didn't even say I didn't want Harry to do it. I'm voting for it, after all. I'm just saying this spell could bring lots of attention onto us, at least until they learn how binary the spell is. Still, I could see versions of it sneaking into the standard Auror repository of spells. But you make a good argument, and my concern is abated.
 
Godogma said:
Han Ji-han has cast abilities and such from the menu by touching the Icon before. You can also get more detailed information by going into the menu as well.

And yes RandomLurker every spell we have that isn't a wizarding spell by definition we don't need a wand for; they were never designed to be used with one.
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first I will have to ask you to point me in which chapter Han Je-Han usses a skill from the menu , because a simple can't remenber it ever occurring
second you are actualy wrong , the QMalready said that he isn't giving us any alternate casting metodologies , so we cast all our D&D spells with our wand as if they were HP magic
 
*shrug* Then he's not going by the crossover which I had no method of knowing because frankly I wasn't reading the whole thread of arguing just the threadmarks.

As for finding the chapter? Good luck; there's 90+ chapters worth of stuff there and I'm unwilling to go back through the most intelligent idiot on the planet image by image looking for it. It's probably in one of the earlier sections when he was going through all the menus and futzing around being an idiot but there's no guarantee.

This is the same character who has had Crafting since the beginning, has nearly no gear, and yet has only ever made a Slime out of clay. He's an idiot savant at best and since this isn't MY gamer crossover I'm not going through that painstaking research process all over again.

EDIT: Aka I've done this more than once to use the Gamer in Crossover fics; if you want to prove me wrong you can dig through all those images again and that's fine but I'm not doing it myself just to prove it to you.

It's a pain in the ass and proving the point isn't worth the headache it'll cause me.
 
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Zaratustra said:
second you are actualy wrong , the QMalready said that he isn't giving us any alternate casting metodologies , so we cast all our D&D spells with our wand as if they were HP magic
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Can you point out where he said that? Because, you know, we cast Smite Evil with our fist, which I don't think is holding a wand, because that would hurt.
 
Godogma said:
EDIT: Aka I've done this more than once to use the Gamer in Crossover fics; if you want to prove me wrong you can dig through all those images again and that's fine but I'm not doing it myself just to prove it to you.
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It is MUCH harder to prove something wrong than right. For unless they out-and-out say that they can't do the thing, there is no proof they can't.
 
Trondason said:
It is MUCH harder to prove something wrong than right. For unless they out-and-out say that they can't do the thing, there is no proof they can't.
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Exactly and I'm not willing to put in the effort to look it up just to prove myself right to HIM. I would have to go through a badly translated Manwha IMAGE BY IMAGE when there are 90+ chapters posted.

With an average of at least 10 or so images by chapter.
 
For anyone worrying about using [Detect Evil] in public, we can always say we brought the idea to Mad-Eye and he thought it would be worthwhile.
 
Godogma said:
Exactly and I'm not willing to put in the effort to look it up just to prove myself right to HIM. I would have to go through a badly translated Manwha IMAGE BY IMAGE when there are 90+ chapters posted.

With an average of at least 10 or so images by chapter.
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I've done it several times, it usually helps if you have a rough idea of when it happened. Like, was it around when he made his Mana Arrow, and Mana Shield? How about when he found that chick (who's name is escaping me) laying unconscious on the ground? When they fought the Legion Zombie the first time?
 
Didn't Harry cast D&D spells 'before' he got his wand?

I don't mean 'accidental magic' but controlled stuff.

Would suggest he can cast D&D spells, if not HP spells, without a wand.
 
the DragonBard said:
Didn't Harry cast D&D spells 'before' he got his wand?

I don't mean 'accidental magic' but controlled stuff.

Would suggest he can cast D&D spells, if not HP spells, without a wand.
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No, he did not. We didn't get the D&D books until after buying our wand.

That said, the GM basically converts things to existing categories unless there isn't something that fits. If a spell from fiction would fit best under Defense, it'll go there. If Charms, it'll go there. And so on and so forth. I think he only creates new categories for magic, like Faith, when there isn't a suitable HP magic slot for it. Smite Evil works by enhancing either your fists or your weapon, Lay on Hands requires touching, and Divine Prayer isn't cast so much as asking your deity (I'm guessing Gaia, given she's the one who hands out powers like The Gamer) to do something, so none of them really fit an area where wand magic applies, ergo the Faith skill category is created since they're all Cleric or Paladin abilities.
 
Enjou said:
No, he did not. We didn't get the D&D books until after buying our wand.
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My mistake.

Hmm...

When we get closer to Hermione, could we get her to ask her parents to buy some muggle books for us, if we promise to pay them back?

This would let us get muggle books during the school year. Though we'd need titles, or at minimum a general subject, like mythology or fantasy novels.

I suggest Star Wars novelizations. Telekinesis, precog, clairvoyance, Jedi Mind Trick (basically a Confundus), Lightning, Legimency without eye contact, and a Dex buff we can use on ourselves.

And that's just the movies.
 
Dr. Bob Doom said:
I've just been assuming Magic, but they're probably just different names for the same thing, in this case.
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There might not even be a Gaia, even in The Gamer. Everyone was pretty iffy about it, and the idea that there is SOMEONE behind all the complicated stuff they got no other explanation for is a rather common thing for people to do.
the DragonBard said:
When we get closer to Hermione, could we get her to ask her parents to buy some muggle books for us, if we promise to pay them back?
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That's a good idea, since there's a good chance we won't even still be here (the Harry Potter world) after this year. Halpo has mentioned that we might world-jump (possibly to Worm) after we beat Voldemort. Since we don't really need to get all his Horcrux's to beat him, it is a very do-able objective to complete within the year.
 
In that case, I suggest buying the books in the Amber series...

Darn it.

Shadow Walking isn't a learned skill, but something you get from a combination of your bloodline and a ritual you go through.

There goes the easiest method of interdimensional travel. :(
Most of them are tied to an innate ability, or an object, or some piece of tech.

Unless Dr Strange or Dr Fate has something.
I think he's worked some spells allowing travel to other timelines or dimensions.

Though, might mean we can get access to stuff from after Book 7 as far as timelines go.

Kaleidoscope 'is' a learned skill, if we can find fiction showing its use.

Would let us visit home if we so desire, or at least visit our friends.
 
Shadow Walking is possible by others besides just the Amberites.

If you're able to navigate the Maze of the Logrus you can gain the ability to shadow walk; or pull the stuff to you through shadow. There are several others in various shadows that allows travel... The Blood of the Beast on the pole ... no, that's shapeshifting... the shell of the beast something or other allows travelling through shadow as well. There are actually lots of means of worldwalking that get mentioned in the Merlin Cycle. Merlin incorporates lots of them as power sources in Ghostwheel.

The various broken patterns are walkable by regular people and allow Amber style shadow walking. Of course they're much more dangerous than the original.

Merlin fixed some of them... or one of them... it was a plot by the Pattern of some sort to strengthen itself since it didn't appreciate the way reality was realigning itself due to the presence of Corwin's Pattern.

The Amber books are a fair font of skills though; Merlin uses trump artistry, sorcery, sword stuff, artificing... shooting... lots and lots of skills just in his five books. Corwin uses lots of skills in the first five as well.

But Corwin isn't nearly as much of a crafter as his son and relies on the Pattern quite a lot. The Amber Diceless RPG will become vastly popular as soon as it's released and Harry could get copies of those books; 1991 for the main book and 1993 for the 2nd book.

EDIT: Of course to get the shadow walking skill he'd need to make an ID barrier with a version of the Pattern or the Logrus inside it and successfully traverse it. Or the shell of the beast (which was basically a giant dragon somewhere out in shadow; the users can walk through shadow by following the 'cracks' in reality).

Trumps is the main awesome thing that wouldn't require an ID Barrier along with some fudging for Harry to use though.
 
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Really late on the update today. But anyway. Here's the tally.

Vote tally:
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[x] Suggest playing a game.
No. of votes: 44
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Zaratustra, Grass, sleepyforest, Larekko12, Ethereal Vitali, Swimmingly, IceWing, CatScannerDarkly, Alanek, Evaunit02mark1, TMIoverload, Heretek, Brandark, KnightofTempest, R. E. Lee, Vindictus, skaro, RandomLurker, Tylonius, owrtho, Fredo, Bloodalchemy, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, darthdavid, inawarminister, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, EasyCo, the DragonBard, edmantgoog, Ferian

[x] Thank him for his time but explain that you already have friends capable of helping you figure these things out.
No. of votes: 12
Corvo Montés, Trondason, Ethereal Vitali, Alanek, TMIoverload, Torgamous, Brandark, KnightofTempest, Tylonius, edmantgoog, Ferian, NSMS

-[X] Poker
No. of votes: 6
Trondason, Swimmingly, R. E. Lee, skaro, Bloodalchemy, Enjou

-[X] Write in the game( teach them DD since you have the rules memorized
No. of votes: 1
Zaratustra

[X] Invite him in, to join in the conversation/game, but explain you don't have room for his friends in the compartment as well.
No. of votes: 11
Zaratustra, Grass, Larekko12, Evaunit02mark1, Heretek, R. E. Lee, skaro, Mandabar, owrtho, Bloodalchemy, inawarminister

-[x] teach them DD since you have the rules memorized, etc)
No. of votes: 2
Grass, inawarminister

[X] Shut the door in his face, you don't feel like dealing with snobs.
No. of votes: 1
sleepyforest

-[X] DnD
No. of votes: 3
sleepyforest, Larekko12, Vindictus

-[X] Teach them DD, they'll probably enjoy it since it has all sorts of magic and stuff and also it may help farm Int and such things.
No. of votes: 6
Ethereal Vitali, CatScannerDarkly, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Kerfirou

[X] Invite him in, and his friends, too.
No. of votes: 1
Swimmingly

-[X] Teach them DD, it's better than chess.
No. of votes: 1
Great_BrightSlap

[X] Thank him for his time but explain that you would figure it out yourself
No. of votes: 1
Great_BrightSlap

-[x] Teach them DD since you have the rules memorized.. You know Hermione brought her dice...
No. of votes: 1
IceWing

[x] So... Couple of things... First, you're introducing yourself first by your surname. Indicating that you believe your family to be of the utmost importance, even more than your own identity. Then you re-introduce yourself, using your first name and your last name. Do you have a middle name? And, is that your actual full name? (Harry is wondering if he can find out Draco's True Name, which, per most magical systems, gives you some power over others. He has previously determined he will not give his full name to anybody at school, just in case.
No. of votes: 1
IceWing

[X] Explain the Bond joke to calm him down.
No. of votes: 33
CatScannerDarkly, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, solodark28, Deathstorm50, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, EasyCo, Ishaq, Ame, the DragonBard, Goldfish, Mistofshadows, Godogma, Louie the Lilac, NSMS

-[X] Thank him for his time but tell him its allright. You already have detect evil spell so you don't need help figuring these things out.
No. of votes: 32
CatScannerDarkly, Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, solodark28, Deathstorm50, Riha, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, EasyCo, Ishaq, Ame, the DragonBard, Goldfish, Mistofshadows, Godogma, Louie the Lilac

--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!​
No. of votes: 1
CatScannerDarkly

-[x] Exploding snap
No. of votes: 5
Alanek, Brandark, RandomLurker, Tylonius, Dr. Bob Doom

[x] plan Kerfirou
No. of votes: 1
WCSII

-[X] teach them DD since you have the rules memorized
No. of votes: 3
Evaunit02mark1, TMIoverload, Heretek

-[X] Cripple Mr. Onion
No. of votes: 1
KnightofTempest

-[X]Perhaps focus on conversation on the most OP games they've played, or high synergistic results. Anything that can insta kill or nosell dark magic or dark lords should be a priority
No. of votes: 1
Mandabar

-[X] Relax, Draco. They only laughed because the way you introduced yourself reminded us of a very famous movie. In fact, they would have cracked up just as much had I responded by saying, 'Potter. Harry Potter.' Your actual name had nothing to do with it. Now, you want to join us? I'm about to teach the others how DD works, and the more the merrier!
No. of votes: 1
Mandabar

-[X] Dungeons and Dragons
No. of votes: 3
owrtho, Mistofshadows, Godogma

-[X] Teach them DD.
No. of votes: 12
Fredo, Unelemental, veekie, Hangwind, wingstrike96, Nor, darthdavid, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, Crazy7s1, EasyCo, the DragonBard

--[X] Demonstrate the spell. Surely there is no evil in the compartment right now, though. Then again... CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
No. of votes: 24
Unelemental, Enjou, Datakim, Myrzael, darthdavid, DragonParadox, Deathstorm50, Void Stalker, will408914, Piell, TotallyNotEvil, AZATHOTHoth, Crazy7s1, Kerfirou, Dr. Bob Doom, Edkose, EasyCo, Ishaq, Ame, the DragonBard, Goldfish, Mistofshadows, Godogma, Louie the Lilac

[X] Let the conversation continue. Surely nothing bad will happen.
No. of votes: 4
Myrzael, solodark28, AZATHOTHoth, Edkose

-[X] DD
No. of votes: 2
edmantgoog, Ferian

[X] Suggest playing The Game.
No. of votes: 1
NSMS

So they're playing D&D, with far too many different votes. And you're going to check if Draco is evil.
 
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Evil Ferret and Evil Rat
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    • You and your friends had been preparing to play D&D, which mostly consists of explaining the rules to them while you draw up character sheets and conjure up dice(which gets you a few stares), when the boy opened the door. So he doesn't even have something familiar to latch onto when he's laughed at.

    Lifting a hand you say, to try and keep him calm, "They aren't laughing at you. Just the way you introduced yourself. 'Malfoy. Draco Malfoy.' It's very reminiscent of a character in some books and movies. A secret agent, or super spy. He always introduced himself as 'Bond. James Bond.'"

    Then, in response to his little spiel, you offer him a small, only somewhat condescending smile. "And for making friends with the right sort... Well, I'd like to think I've done well there so far. Besides, I know a spell to detect evil. Really cuts down on the risk of me making friends with that sort, you know?"

    As the blond boy opens his mouth, probably to object to there being such a spell, you speak over him. "Here. Let me show you. Not that it'll do much good. Not like anyone here is evil, yeah?" Drawing your wand you tap the tip of it against your temple, murmuring, "[Detect Evil]."

    And with that your view changes, subtly. Nothing really noticeable at first, just colors becoming ever so slightly faded. Until you look at Malfoy. His goons are the same as the others, but he glows. It's not a bright glow, which your knowledge of the spell tells you means that he's not completely evil. But he's still a little evil. And if he doesn't change, that glow will only grow.

    Frowning you say to him, "You... You're a little evil, it seems. Tell me. Do you make a habit of... Kicking puppies? Burning ants? Eating kittens? Torturing animals? Because if so... These activities have to stop. Or you'll become even more evil than you are. I mean, right now you're just a little evil."

    That's as far as you get before he starts to rant and rave about how he's not evil and blah, blah, blah. Normally you'd pay far more attention, but something has caught your eye.

    Absently you lift your wand and fire a silencing charm at Malfoy, still staring at what you saw.

    "Ron. I'm going to need you to take that rat out of your pocket and set it on the ground. It's glowing."

    Of course, that's not all you see.

    [Wormtail, Traitorous Rat Animagus, lvl ??]

    Ron gives you an odd look but the apparent humiliation of Malfoy seems to have put him in a compliant mood, as he takes the rat and sets it down on the ground. Then it immediately bolts for the door.

    [ ] Use the Homorphus charm(Won't stop him, but will reveal him.) Then chase him. (roll 1d100 for the charm and 1d20 for the chase.)

    [ ] Stun the rat!(Roll 1d100 to hit)

    [ ] Let it go.(If it's gone, not your problem!)

    [ ] Write-in(Each spell cast takes a roll of 1d100, chasing requires a 1d20 to measure your progress against his.)
     
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