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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Dislike. No point destroying a polity unless we are moving in to colonize it, another polity will just replace them and if we are not careful we can create a powerful dangerous enemy by accident. Chaos tends towards raiding each other ineffectually. 2 Favors to clean DN Nest, then turtling up and developing the DN-Trust Union the rest of the timeskip is ideal.
I thought so too till I noticed Demagogue is taking over a lot of the local planets . He now has a polity of 42 planets and is a Slaanesh so he may get dark eldar tech if he earns enough favor. Also taking him out secure everything within 200 light years.
- Location
- Europe
Like, because they will be a problem later down the line if we don't kill them now that chaos can't react.
Ok pro and con list of burning the local Slaanesh policy
pro
1 dead chaos
2 we control the local 200 lightyears
3 local chaos are dead and lower chance of dark eldar tech
4 local chaos region does not keep taking over worlds.
5 stop a minor threat for becoming a larger threat
6 could easier conquer local ork worlds for colonization
7 take out a threat before the ritual
cons
1 resources spent these could be spent on other things we need
2 they are a minor threat
3 chaos in region think of us as a bigger threat but not significant threat
4 time spent on fighting a war from 1-4 decades
5 can't use conquered worlds
6 corruption but can use eldar for a minor favor to catch corrupted and cultist
pro
1 dead chaos
2 we control the local 200 lightyears
3 local chaos are dead and lower chance of dark eldar tech
4 local chaos region does not keep taking over worlds.
5 stop a minor threat for becoming a larger threat
6 could easier conquer local ork worlds for colonization
7 take out a threat before the ritual
cons
1 resources spent these could be spent on other things we need
2 they are a minor threat
3 chaos in region think of us as a bigger threat but not significant threat
4 time spent on fighting a war from 1-4 decades
5 can't use conquered worlds
6 corruption but can use eldar for a minor favor to catch corrupted and cultist
- Location
- England
Maybe we should throw a divination on consequences of burning Demegoye- see if it will likely bring trouble.
We eventually have to fight everyone in the region because you know chaos. Taking out Demegoye would be nipping a potential threat before it gets bigger.
- Location
- The internet
Another option is to go after the Nex. Specifically, using stealth warships to target their shipbuilding infrastructure. Their tech is heavily based on heavily armored, slow warships that compensate for their crude nature with warp reactors. This is not a good counter for a fleet of vortex armed stealth warships targeting their infrastructure.
Or somebody else colonizes. Burning minor orc worlds and letting the sane move into the gaps is a viable strategy.
- Location
- UK
What are the odds that we could engage in successful diplomacy with the Atum dynasty? I understand that they're not our natural friends, and they have a bad history with the Dragon's Nest, but Chaos is still a far bigger threat to both of us, both locally, and on a galactic level for Necrons and Imperial Remnants as a whole.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
Continuing Readthrough, am at the Dark Eldar campaign, the -20 for critically disorganized should be a -40, I think.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I dunno what to tell you man we kill Demegoye we end up with someone new taking over, could be Assour could be Amirka and those remaining non affiliated worlds I'm afraid are almost certainly going to die no matter what we do.
I'm hardly going to argue against it, but equally the demon you know is better than the one you don't.
- Location
- UK
I'm leery about doing anything like that if we aren't in a position to take advantage of it. It's one thing to encourage instability and chaos, and entirely another thing to simply leave a power vacuum that can and probably will be quickly filled by another local power. If you want a real world example, the policy of using drone strikes to target terrorist leaders is pretty ineffective in the long term. They get replaced, often by people who have to establish their legitimacy and authority by being even more radical and violent.
If an assassination will lead to a major power falling apart, or encourage civil war, or leave a polity weak and leaderless in the face of invasion, then by all means go for it. However, Demegoye is a sufficiently small fry that he'll probably be replaced, or his domain will simply be absorbed by another, without much wider change. Killing Assour could be advantageous, because of how powerful he and his domain are, but Demegoye's death wouldn't really get us any sort of equivalent advantage, unless we planned to go in immediately after and occupy those systems.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
missing the 1d in front of the 100. Was confused for second as I thought that they had gotten a nat 100 before I looked at it a bit more closely.
Here's another one.
And another one.
Another one.
The assassination is to be followed by a invasion. That is the whole point of killing him so it would cause enough confusion for us to invade and kill everyone. Without people or industry those worlds become a lot less valuable.
- Location
- United states
That seems pretty insulting that people think that our chief mago biologist who would be aware of issues such as that wouldn't have considered them. Because seriously, if it was brought up that they would be good for the Trust then they would have likely thought about those issues because it's just common sense.
KidFromPallet
Pokemon Fan
- Location
- Pallet Town
There's no actual indication the half losses was applied in the loss roll, but it probably was so just stick a /2 in there or something.
Should probably be "... final decision on how to attack Objective Alpha-One" or something like that.
Should be choke point.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
So? Its still 40 empty planets, lacking in infrastructure they're still less valuable, but they're still a lot of territories that nobody is going to leave lying around and they're territory we cannot hold.
- Location
- England
@KidFromPallet durin isn't going to be changing typos from three years ago now. We're having this high council meeting and then we're moving thread.
Assour is on the other side of Demogaue and Assour seems to want to expanding. Killing those worlds population would prevent a minor power on our border from being used by a a larger power as a forward base. Also the other reasons he has been brought up in the past.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
He's been doing this for weeks.
- Location
- Australia
We can also do juvenat fundamentals.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Then he gets to bring in his own already relatively loyal people to colonise etc.
Ironically I can well see us killing demogaue as doing him a favour as Assour wouldn't have to pacify the area himself.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Demogaue will be replaced by another power if we blow them up. Worst case another power expands to their area.
- Location
- The internet
No it won't. We'd be blowing up the shipyards and infrastructure as well.