The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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@Enjou love the plan but you can have Aria mentor the alpha. Also keep the thunder warrior research. If we know what the flaws are we can use Alkhaestry to fix the problems. We do still have that favor owed because of the trade.
 
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Worth noting these are probably not the nids we're familiar with. These are nids who have been slugging it out with the Crons for centuries without the Crons holding back and managing a breakthrough. They will be swole as fuck and used to tech 30+
 
'Nids have plenty of heavies and they're higher priority targets than in most armies - sticking at 50% volkites seems fine to me - it's not as though our more penetrating options lack stopping power.

I am against blowing resources on Ordinatus. 'Nids swarm. They hit multiple worlds at once and on those worlds they attack everywhere. Individual superweapons that dominate one theatre are not worth it. If we were planning for orks where there's a definite head of the waaagh to crush then maybe, but against 'nids we want mass production. Especially against 'nids that have been fighting 'crons because they'll have optimised for getting past super tech in low numbers.
 
Since we can have Eldar cleanse worlds in exchange for a favor should we perhaps focus Lin's attention on something only he can do like studying Eldar gods or other gods?
 
Right, so, because I'm just a little disappointed with the thread evidently going to spend the next 120 years of Max's time reinventing yet another super-soldier program despite my repeated entreaties that he investigate some things of very broad, practical use, or keep him handy for examining Nid samples... can someone please cheer me up and tell me that it's worth doing it right now?
 
Right, so, because I'm just a little disappointed with the thread evidently going to spend the next 120 years of Max's time reinventing yet another super-soldier program despite my repeated entreaties that he investigate some things of very broad, practical use, or keep him handy for examining Nid samples... can someone please cheer me up and tell me that it's worth doing it right now?
I am sure it will be worthwhile.
I do not know how.
 
Right, so, because I'm just a little disappointed with the thread evidently going to spend the next 120 years of Max's time reinventing yet another super-soldier program despite my repeated entreaties that he investigate some things of very broad, practical use, or keep him handy for examining Nid samples... can someone please cheer me up and tell me that it's worth doing it right now?
I know how you feel but the thing is we have a way to fix the flaws and Max is only a part of it. We still have the favor to help build a supersoldier. And look and behold we have a advance supersoldier that needs fixing. Also imagine the surprise when Avernus thunder legion wipes a crusade out.
 
-Y3: Fixing the The Flaws of Thunder: Part One

may I ask why your doing this? sure wildlife resarch is hit or miss, but 22 years for part one implies we will be giving up a lot of chances for a hit. Not to mention, the chain itself will likly take a century or more. meaning we are unlikely to have it done by the time the next conclave rolls around, and callmus will likely do this itself.
 
may I ask why your doing this? sure wildlife resarch is hit or miss, but 22 years for part one implies we will be giving up a lot of chances for a hit. Not to mention, the chain itself will likly take a century or more. meaning we are unlikely to have it done by the time the next conclave rolls around, and callmus will likely do this itself.
Callimus is not likely to do that and well we have Alkhaestry to help. Also projects like this help Max advance down the biologist path. A supersoldier program created by the Emperor.
 

This List of Stuff We Need to Do says that we don't have Ragnarok Cannons yet, which I am pretty sure is wrong but if its not we want them ASAP.

Pretty sure that we need quite a few more than one Black Ship.

Why would Vlad know much about them?

Nynye think that they can create an adaptive self replicating anti-Tyranid poison if they have enough samples, and HWWO might be willing to get us some. If no, Eldar can with a minor favor.

Warn the Necrons?

Ask Arathea if she knows of anything that could help against Tyranids?

We should probably examine the Midgard Telepathica guy.

Ask Eldar to help direct the Waagh into the Tyranids maybe?

-Y3: Fixing the The Flaws of Thunder: Part One
Why?

This is is massively long term and difficult action of dubious benefit that others are better suited for (Callamus), which would lock down all of our Biologis actions for ages.

When we have a massive backlog of low hanging fruit wildlife to study. Which has proven very valuable indeed and none other power can do it.

This is an extremely bad idea.


Warp Echo: Human blood, air, water, adamantium, solar plasma

Psychic Materials: Phase Tigers (apparently their parts tend to fall out through their crates? And we have many of them and phasing is very valuable), Congregation Asp (hivemind, mind be good for astropaths), Psyrodactyl

Research (Species that has completed Biologis research). I don't know where to start, so many excellent options.

Mentoring: Alpha if we have one this turn.

Create Psyker Order: Wildlife research, we need a lot of help there, but I am sure that there are other excellent options.

Various Runes examinations and implementation if someone other than Tamia can do them.

Black Crystal Breastplate.

There is a lot of military tech that we need to implement, such as: Ration Pills, Harvester Heavy Tank, Cloaking Fields, Ion Barrier projector, Codiac Support Artillery, Vehicle Jump Jets, Boar General Combat Vehicle, Phoenix Gunship, and Phoenix Bomber.

Compared to these 17 years of Thunder Warrior preparation is most likely a waste.

Have we spend any time with our other grandkids? Those Alpha twins that Tamia and Xavier adopted?
 
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As someone who just recently read through the threadmarks and haven't read through the comments, I have a question. Has Sigmund and Syr's relationship improved since Syr is now pregnant? I don't know if anyone else has asked this yet, but I'm just curious, since I want Syr to have a happy marriage like Frederick and Freya.
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Big boost down the Biologist path besides I think we actually may be better suited to fixing and improving the Thunder Warriors than Callamus due to Alkahestry.
 
Callimus is not likely to do that and well we have Alkhaestry to help. Also projects like this help Max advance down the biologist path. A supersoldier program created by the Emperor.

i'm going to have to disagree with you. Callimus is very likely to do it. they are vastly better than us at non psychic research. Unless the fix 100% needs Alkhaestry it makes more sense to leave it to them, rather than tie up our wildlife research for a century. Again, wildlife research is very hit or miss, but losing a century of it will mean giving up a fair amount of hits.
 
As someone who just recently read through the threadmarks and haven't read through the comments, I have a question. Has Sigmund and Syr's relationship improved since Syr is now pregnant? I don't know if anyone else has asked this yet, but I'm just curious, since I want Syr to have a happy marriage like Frederick and Freya.
We don't know yet unfortunately. Most plans have us spend time with them though, so we will likely learn next turn.

Heres hoping.
 
i'm going to have to disagree with you. Callimus is very likely to do it. they are vastly better than us at non psychic research. Unless the fix 100% needs Alkhaestry it makes more sense to leave it to them, rather than tie up our wildlife research for a century. Again, wildlife research is very hit or miss, but losing a century of it will mean giving up a fair amount of hits.
Why would Callimus need supersoldier s when they have large amount of supersoldier s already?
 
Why would Callimus need supersoldier s when they have large amount of supersoldier s already?
They lack supersoldiers actually. Their SM numbers are very low due to attrition.

They will be making many of them, and it will take centuries for their SM to recover as I understand it.

Also TWs are probably far cheaper to make and maintain than the various Admech cyborg superelite monstrosities.

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Aren't there several ship designs that already use Ragnarok Cannons?
I think that we designed a cruiser with an overcharged reactor and Ragnarok Cannon, but my memory of such things is not the best, its on the list, and I don't know where to check, so...

Also wanted to point out the list to people, I discovered it recently and it is very useful.
 
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They lack supersoldiers actually. Their SM numbers are very low due to attrition.

They will be making many of them, and it will take centuries for their SM to recover as I understand it.

Also TWs are probably far cheaper to make and maintain than the various Admech cyborg superelite monstrosities.
Battle congregations or Mrymidans are consider supersoldier's. Highly trained advance cyborgs and tech priests with special equipment. Now they may not all be the melee murder machines that the thunder warriors are but they do have a lot of firepower. Enough to keep the largest Necron dynasty we know about at bay.
 
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