The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

[PurposefulZephyr]

So! That went well! A few years to recover our negligible ground losses, and 10-20 years to have our fleet back up.
Now...
When does the WAAAGH attacks, again?
Last time Ridcully fanned their flames, 2 years ago, there were two warlords fighting.
With Ridcully sick, we still can use other diviners (especially since Turoq's interference is gone). Problem is- they are less effective than Ridcully (also orks are getting resistant to divination).

How long will it take for Ridicully to recover from the various plagues he Has

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a few years, less then a decade

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Ridcully is almost certainly out for the turn, possibly two.

4. How long do we think it will take Tugozak's domain to launch a waaargh once it becomes unified?

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4. Unknown

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We don't know either the time for them to unify, or how long until they take a swing at us.
Gonna say, simplistically, that it would take a minimum of 2 turns (one to unify, other to decide to attack us).

What strength will the WAAAGH have? They have 55 worlds, so a relatively strong Tier 2 is likely.

Are there things we really want done before they attack, aside from replenishing current losses?
Certainly the massive anti-technology power:

Anti-Ork Powers: Grand Techbane- Now that he has created an anti Ork Power Xavier thinks that it is possible to upscale it so that it can be used by entire Choirs of Psykers. While it would take a good bit of research to create this power would allow your Demonology Choirs to cause malfunctions to entire Orksish armies, or even disable Gargents.

Time: 8 years
Chance of Success: -50% (uses learning)

Cost: 180,000,000 Thrones, 1,800,000 Material, 4,200 Advanced Material, 480 Exotic Material.
Reward: Create choir scale power able to cause Ork technology to malfunction

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Should probably get on that this turn, to be on the safe side.

Anything else?

 

[Valkur]

Enjou... did you forget to vote?

 

[Enjou]

Enjou... did you forget to vote?

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On the last round? No. I voted for "no changes" because there was nothing we needed to do.

Or do you mean in the real election? If that's the case, I did my civic duty.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

The conference is an open secret we can't hide that it is happening. It is taking place in the webway so no one can really stop it. What we have been doing is hiding the fact we are the ones who set it up. We are trying to make it seem like the major Human factions or the Eldar are setting it up instead.

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Actually I'm pretty sure it is really hidden. Nobody is likely to start broadcasting it and the points of contact will only be a few people per polity at most and a lot of it has and will take place in the Webway, which is one of the most secure places ever.

I think we can purify the non-daemon ships by melting them down into base materials. For the Daemon Ships if it's not too much of a problem crash them on our world and let them be cleansed by the cleaners then melt them down. We did it with the Daemon Battlebarges that we can now melt down.

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We can purify them via pyromancers, but we've got better things to do for them and you do realise we'd have to tug those ships through the warp for that?

Even then we only did that with the BB's because they crash landed themselves.

 

[Angelform]

Just something to keep in mind but the Tugozak ork have no particular reason to come at us. Turoq undoubtedly intended to send them our way but with him dead it should be relatively simple to direct them elsewhere.
Amir-Ka for example.

 

[Shard]

Just something to keep in mind but the Tugozak ork have no particular reason to come at us. Turoq undoubtedly intended to send them our way but with him dead it should be relatively simple to direct them elsewhere.
Amir-Ka for example.

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IIRC the main issue is that we are the nearest target for Tugozak Orks. Well, after Amir-Ka anyway, who probably don't want it at their way (who knows with politics).

 

[Enjou]

Just something to keep in mind but the Tugozak ork have no particular reason to come at us. Turoq undoubtedly intended to send them our way but with him dead it should be relatively simple to direct them elsewhere.
Amir-Ka for example.

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Directing Orks is hard, though. Plus the Trust is the closest good fight. We're the natural target. Demagoye is also a maybe, but they may well lose.

 

[Nurgle]

This was the greatest slaughter the Trust has ever had. We reallly need to take advantage of this win. We can say that we want to give tech in gernerous terms to ally the trust with the most powerful human polities in the galaxy.

Also if Mikaelson stays Governor for much longer I would be surprised. He is a good Administrator but nothing exceptional. Also his faction just got proven wrong in a big way since they killed the most ships. Rotbart was proven right and the conference will just prove him even more.

I think we should take the whole council should go the meeting to drive home how the galaxy has changed and the need to change even more to the governors to survive. We are meeting Lethe and if she is anywhere near Deus ex she will be a huge help.

Asgard Governor opinion rose apparently of Rotbart and we should spend some time with him to get him to see our point of view. Because Rotbart is beloved on Asgard and one of the dukes (???) their with land and holdings.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

Right I have a proposition for a favour which I checked with Durin in advance.

Basically when I started referencing the radical sects it triggered ancient memories.

@Durin
1. Speaking of radicals in thread my memory was jogged and old things started to claw their way out of the dusty halls of recollection. Specifically of Dark Heresy and a radical faction going by the name Polypsykana AKA this lot Polypsykana - Warhammer 40k - Lexicanum. Not a particularly major faction though our GM did some very interesting things with them. What stood out to me though is this bit

Spoiler: Radical Handbook Page 128

The beliefs of Polypsykana Inquisitors are not unique to the Calixis Sector or to the present times; similar beliefs and theories constantly boil beneath the surface of the Inquisition as a whole. Despite its individual features, the Calixian Polypsykana faction is but one manifestation among many.

Which is why I bring them up in the first place, because otherwise I would simply be using one example to try and argue something. However, as "ascensionist" groups like them existed Imperium wide and apparently had some success in their methods, the Polypsykana specifically

Spoiler: Radical Handbook

Polypsykana operatives have also poured energy into hastening the awakening of mankind to its psychic future by using eugenic techniques and developing powerful psy-active drugs.

Can we ask the Eldar to recover their research/methods?

13 thousand years of work will likely have produced a **** ton of junk data, but even if the information simply reveals indepth analysis of the human psyker genome, or superior means of predicting the emergence of powerful psykers I believe it would be useful to the Trust.

Could this work?

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1. if you know about them you could

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@Durin
1. I'd be surprised if the pair of Lord Inquisitors (one radical one puritan) didn't know about those kind of ascensionist cells. They've likely had to kill more than a few inquisitors of both. That work enough for how we know of them?

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1. it would

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Do you think this would be worth it? After all psycic research is rare and over the Imperium's existence one of the thousands of cells will have likely made a break through that will be useful to us if not more.

one of the dukes (???) their with land and holdings.

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I can't remember our exact rank, but the Rotbart line has a tower in Valhalla, has a very high rank in their nobility and is very significant land owners with theirs being among the most well educated and prosperous regions.

 

[atrophy]

I think it was baron if i remembr or count maybe, it wasnt duke tough.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

I think it was baron if i remembr or count maybe, it wasnt duke tough.

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Its high enough that we're on their top council.

 

[Valkur]

On the last round? No. I voted for "no changes" because there was nothing we needed to do.

Or do you mean in the real election? If that's the case, I did my civic duty.

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Real election.

Big homey. Real talk.

Why you so angry? Why you gotta hate on those poor conservatives saving for retirement?

 

[Adventwolf]

Actually I'm pretty sure it is really hidden. Nobody is likely to start broadcasting it and the points of contact will only be a few people per polity at most and a lot of it has and will take place in the Webway, which is one of the most secure places ever.

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You may be right I just figured since it's such a big deal that somehow it would be leaked that it is happening or it did happen. The main thing for me is keeping our own involvement in the setup a secret. Though to be fair even if the other factions found out about the conference they couldn't stop it.

We can purify them via pyromancers, but we've got better things to do for them and you do realise we'd have to tug those ships through the warp for that?

Even then we only did that with the BB's because they crash landed themselves.

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Good point well unless it is very cheap or doesn't require an action chuck them into the sun.

 

[Doomed Wombat]

You may be right I just figured since it's such a big deal that somehow it would be leaked that it is happening or it did happen. The main thing for me is keeping our own involvement in the setup a secret. Though to be fair even if the other factions found out about the conference they couldn't stop it.

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But...it isn't big...

I mean yes it is, but in impact not necessarily scale.

At the smallest it could consist of a handful of people and a lot of paper print outs.

Even at a larger scale I doubt there will be too many involved outside who would let it slip either easily, intentionally or accidentally.

 

[random_npc]

@random_npc
just a note for your omake the name you have put for the guy in charge is the same for the one in charge of the abomination forces might want to change it.

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huh, I thought it was to easy. well guess he's now Locutus of crone.

 

[Thule]

we need to have Ridcully when he is well to look at the situation at Atlas,Chron and Turoq

 

[dragon]

This was the greatest slaughter the Trust has ever had. We reallly need to take advantage of this win. We can say that we want to give tech in gernerous terms to ally the trust with the most powerful human polities in the galaxy.

Also if Mikaelson stays Governor for much longer I would be surprised. He is a good Administrator but nothing exceptional. Also his faction just got proven wrong in a big way since they killed the most ships. Rotbart was proven right and the conference will just prove him even more.

I think we should take the whole council should go the meeting to drive home how the galaxy has changed and the need to change even more to the governors to survive. We are meeting Lethe and if she is anywhere near Deus ex she will be a huge help.

Asgard Governor opinion rose apparently of Rotbart and we should spend some time with him to get him to see our point of view. Because Rotbart is beloved on Asgard and one of the dukes (???) their with land and holdings.

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Its high enough that we're on their top council.

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Rotbart is an honorary marshal and has an earl's landholdings. But probally doesn't actually count as an earl, because noble rank depends on how many knight titans you command. So just an honorary marshal.

As an oathbrother of sigurd, I think he's technically part of his family.

 

[Angelform]

I mean yes it is, but in impact not necessarily scale.

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When dealing with future sight impact matters.

That large human polities are suddenly going to get a tech upgrade will be blindingly obvious to any half-decent diviner.
That all three will get it at the same time and will be getting stuff none of the have will be clear to any decent diviner. From there it is easy to deduce that a meeting took place and involved the Empire of Ashes.
That we will be involved should require a very skilled diviner, or a decent one that is already paying attention to us.

 

[AlsoSprachOdin]

But probally doesn't actually count as an earl, because noble rank depends on how many knight titans you command. So just an honorary marshal.

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Don't grown-up titans count?
I just realised that, once more, we haven't gotten to see the Sanctus in action.

 

[Thule]

That large human polities are suddenly going to get a tech upgrade will be blindingly obvious to any half-decent diviner.
That all three will get it at the same time and will be getting stuff none of the have will be clear to any decent diviner. From there it is easy to deduce that a meeting took place and involved the Empire of Ashes.
That we will be involved should require a very skilled diviner, or a decent one that is already paying attention to us.

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stil it will be worth it as we will also gain there tech and we are so far apart that we dont have the same foes

 

[Adventwolf]

Rotbart is an honorary marshal and has an earl's landholdings. But probally doesn't actually count as an earl, because noble rank depends on how many knight titans you command. So just an honorary marshal.

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As Governor of our world we build all the knights as well as having the anti-titan kinghts of our own forces under our command. I think that leaves enough wiggle room for an actual title.

That's why I think a hero from Asgard is our best bet for our daughter. If they can have more than one kid this time we can have the spares set up our own Knight house on Asgard and eventually Hvergelmir as well. That way if something happens we have characters that could survive our death world if the main line died out.

But...it isn't big...

I mean yes it is, but in impact not necessarily scale.

At the smallest it could consist of a handful of people and a lot of paper print outs.

Even at a larger scale I doubt there will be too many involved outside who would let it slip either easily, intentionally or accidentally.

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I meant in the way cosmic forces would know. I agree only a few people would actually know anything is happening so I don't think a physical info leak will happen. Either way at this point it doesn't matter either other forces know or they don't. They won't be able to do anything about it anyways.

 

[SirHades2.0]

We should make of tech to prioritize since the High Council meeting is coming up after the next turn followed by the tech trade.

I think our priority ought to be industrial and warp tech with any other things being behind those. What do people have in mind if not that?

 

[guyfromtheplace1]

5 demon grand cruisers, 1 grand cruiser, 3 demon battlecruisers, and 1 very lucky light cruiser are all of the ships bigger than an escort that got away. due to the penalty for losing their leadership, we can assume none of those ships had flag officers on them. The odds of them having transferred the very valuable tech to any of those specific ships is very low.

the odds of them getting any of our tech from this is pretty low.

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I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the chance of them sending a new raid at Turoq's domain, or negotiating with any who want to get out before it collapses, to get any tech he didn't trade them. And how if we knew where Turoq kept any tech he didn't sell them we could raid that place first.

 

[Nurgle]

It is pretty good guess any tech he had was on his demon world. Which more than likely was destroyed when Turoq died. Rarely does a demon world not get destroyed and remade when the demon in control of it dies.

 

[random_npc]

I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the chance of them sending a new raid at Turoq's domain, or negotiating with any who want to get out before it collapses, to get any tech he didn't trade them. And how if we knew where Turoq kept any tech he didn't sell them we could raid that place first.

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ah, well a good news is that it's likely to get scattered, so the odds of anyone power getting enough to reverse-engineer it. since it's going to get sold by a bunch of competing powers for favors so the odds of any specific magnos getting enough to do much has gone down. So I doubt we'll get much more tech leakage than we already had.