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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Well it would confirm they are idiots...
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Hmmm what do you guys think on the time we make the public apology? if we do it before meeting with the marines we may get an unfavourable first impression with the Ultramarines and a possible show of weakness for the trust as a whole if we do it after the space marines will likely be more irritated and will likely cause more friction with marines than it would other wise cause if they know before hand
I think the marines are a long way from giving two shits about the internal politics of the Trust and who is apologizing to whom. It's a background story that will be meaningless to them.
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If it was any other issue except anything related to chaos I would agree with you but this is about us manipulating a population into accepting xenos I would think this will catch their interests
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Yh i know im just saying if they stay and everything works out we could have badass Ultramrines with amazing equipment
Lol. Only if we provide it ourselves.
From Impalers to Power Armour our stuff makes their equipment look like garbage.
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To be fair it is not like outfitting space marines will be all that expensive compared to what we usually provide our rank and file we could outfit them with our finest equipment and vehicles and it will hardly make a dent on our resources due to their small size of at most a thousand
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Impalers are fine, its the armor that's the issue.
Even with the Jotun set it doesn't incorporate compatibility with the black carapace.
We're definitely going to get more than 1000 eventually.
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I don't think the Smerf's would be too bad about that, on the other hand Nids.
At the end of the day we can guess they're likely patterns, but these ones have been rattling around for over 900 years, so they're starting to reach Dante's age in canon.
At that age things start getting odd.
Not in a bad way, more I'm willing to ally with Crons against a bigger foe and then go our seperate ways without a stab to the back kinda odd.
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We should really first negogiate before making such statements.
If they accept serving the Trust under a councils direct authority we can do that.
If not I'd recommend giving them neccessary repairs and sending them on their way.
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, by the time it becomes necessaryA. they're not going to want to leave.
B. The Trust won't want them to leave
C. They'd be leaving with all our goodies.
As it stands these are Smerfs they're not going to go traitor on us or demand that we submit to their will like you seem to think.
Better yet they have a core of 15 900 year old veterans.
These people are not dumbasses.
That is the point? Veteran Space Marines recruited from Avernus, in Astartes Pattern Elite Power Armor (we'd have to Research that), with access to the best of our DAoT Arsenal? Those are just plain scary. They'd probably be able to take on 5 to 10 times their numbers in conventional Space Marines.
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Doomed Wombat
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Looking at Our Own, this isn't unrealistic.
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Maybe if the grey knights finally allow us to make space marines of our own we will but I doubt they will budge on this considering it was written in their codex and why should we push them on this particular issue when there are other more glaring issues we can push them on consetions must be made and this is one rule I would be willing to let them keep and not push for change
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This is a calm between storms phase, so building up infrastructure, introducing new upgrades, and preparing for the next major event is key. Given that a Mechanicus Civil War is, while not probably, uncomfortably possible I would seriously consider taking actions that reduce Unrest. Like repairing that Titan. That's been in need of repairs for decades now.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
Doomed Wombat
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Before M41 I would have agreed.
This is after their codex got them humiliated twice and they started to make changes.
Even then if they are resistant and we don't want to row we have two options.
1. Remind them of other non codex compliant chapters
2. Make new chapters.
Also what's this about the GK not letting us?
Its not that they don't want to its that they can't.
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Sorry, I didn't mean that.
A. they're not going to want to leave.
B. The Trust won't want them to leave
C. They'd be leaving with all our goodies.
As it stands these are Smerfs they're not going to go traitor on us or demand that we submit to their will like you seem to think.
Better yet they have a core of 15 900 year old veterans.
These people are not dumbasses.
I think it's not unlikely that they will want the level of independance a Chaptermaster in the old Imperium had, which is quite a lot.
In our case we have a far tighter authority than the Lords of Terra could possibly have held of the giant Imperium with it's long travel time and unreliable messages, so we'll propably want them to have less independance.
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That boosts moral it increases unrest.
We're thinking of doing that after the young trait has been gotten rid off, which makes any unrest maker really unlikable.
Well we're stuck in the same situation with even more possibility of shitty travel time and possibly even worse messaging, just over a smaller area.
As for the issue of a chapter master, do you really want all the Space Marines under the command of one single governor?
I'd rather a single modified chapter master position on the council, there is already precedent, to us trying to force them to do stuff and having someone lash out in anger.
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Also, the nice thing about the Ultramarines is that they are practically a symbol of the old Adeptus Astartes and have excellent relations with practically all chapters, especially their successors. We know that there are plenty of Astartes Protectorates out there and most of them will be descended from the Ultramarines. Space Marine chapters have long memories and value their honour and lineage greatly, so the Ultramarines would make excellent ambassadors and should make starting of on good relations with most Protectorates very easy.
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Thanks to the smaller area our travel is far better than the Imperium at it's best days. We could be using Tau drives and would still be faster between the two furthest planets of the Trust than a ship navigated by the Emperor himself could be between the furthest planets of the Imperium.
I thought about a model like them having a chaptermaster who has to give full reports to the low council and has to have big decisions, like increased recruitment or additional ships confirmed by the High Council, but I'm sure someone like Enjou would make a reasonable deal there.
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Huh thought they were still on the fence about that my mistake.
Regardless a thousand space marines I honestly feel is enough and I honestly like how decentralized they are to prevent one chapter from having too much power what they need is critical thinking and to see the book as guidlines and catalyst not disregard the book all together
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I know what your talking about the issue there is that if we do the repair we're going to drive support into the conservatives camp and none into the progressive camp.
And yes this is WOG I can find the quotes if you wish.
Nope we have 10/20 geneseed which is more advanced than normal astartes geneseed and no idea how to implant it.
Actually worse we have no idea how to make the organs from it at all.
They were getting there in M41.
Oh too everyone really, can I just propose we hold off on going to stage 3 of the Super Soldier project until we've gotten all the info we can off everybody else.
We need our own assassins after all.
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