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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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I believe that the way Durin has set this up is that the Current / Total unrest counter will go up, and go down, as events and our actions dictate, but if it ever reaches 10 unrest, then that last thing that caused unrest to rise will be the 'straw that broke the camel's back', and trigger the Admech civil war.

@durin can confirm, but I believe that as long as the unrest stays below 10, there _will not_ be a civil war in the Admech ranks. That's what the counter is -for-, to show us when we're getting close to triggering that.
 
Vyrexuviel said:
I believe that the way Durin has set this up is that the Current / Total unrest counter will go up, and go down, as events and our actions dictate, but if it ever reaches 10 unrest, then that last thing that caused unrest to rise will be the 'straw that broke the camel's back', and trigger the Admech civil war.

@durin can confirm, but I believe that as long as the unrest stays below 10, there _will not_ be a civil war in the Admech ranks. That's what the counter is -for-, to show us when we're getting close to triggering that.
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there may be a civil war at 8 or 9 in certain circumstances, but otherwise yes
 
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Reynal said:
For the mechanics of the probability of Mechanicus civil war, I've got the idea it works out as something like this:

0-4 unrest along the lines of some people are unhappy, some are pissed, but the real chance of a civil war is similar to that of one in the United States today. Maybe 1% chance per year on the high end of unrest.

5-7 along the lines of some real divisions and anger, and some lines in the sand, but it would require a real provocation to actually start. Effectively like USA and USSR in the Cold War, with less of a hair trigger. Along the lines of 2-5% chance of civil war starting per year.

8-9 is like Europe prior to WW1. Lines have been drawn, tensions are high, and people are (to some extent) looking for a reason. Something in the order of 15-30% chance of civil war starting per year

10 is Franz Ferdinand has been assassinated by Serbian nationalists.

1) Is this view accurate in its broad strokes?

2) For future planning: On the event roll table, is it set up similarly for the other chaos gods? Cause a 1/1000 chance of this sort of event is very different from a 1/200 chance (5 major chaos gods)--for the later, there's about a 50% chance of another Incursion happening at some point in the next 200 years
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1. decently accurate but civil war will only start in the 8-10 range,
2. yes
 
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@durin

1. Is there any chance we can refound the Ordo Hereticus? Does it have to be a High Council action or will the Inquisition do it themselves? Between Jane, Lin, and the two Malleus Lords I think we have everything we need.
2. Will Ultan take some time off from his diplomacy job to do his Malleus job in the wake of the incursion?
3. How powerful does a Telepath have to be to read the minds of a Hive World? It's lower than Alpha Plus because those guys control the minds of multiple solar systems so I'm thinking maybe an Alpha or even a Beta can do it.
 
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ArchAIngel said:
Are Exalted Daemons a thing? Greater Greater Daemons in essence, but only the gods sacred number of them exist at any one time.
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Yes, Exalted Greater Daemons are a thing, but I don't think their number correspond to their gods patron number.

And to be frank, it's canon that EGD are threats to not just planets, but entire star systems, so you should be really, really happy you haven't met any. They are, bar none, the most terrifying thing in the Chaos Gods arsenal, and if they field them, things have gone very, very wrong.
 
jacobplm said:
Yes, Exalted Greater Daemons are a thing, but I don't think their number correspond to their gods patron number.

And to be frank, it's canon that EGD are threats to not just planets, but entire star systems, so you should be really, really happy you haven't met any. They are, bar none, the most terrifying thing in the Chaos Gods arsenal, and if they field them, things have gone very, very wrong.
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*points mutely at Unborn*
 
Andres110 said:
@durin

1. Is there any chance we can refound the Ordo Hereticus? Does it have to be a High Council action or will the Inquisition do it themselves? Between Jane, Lin, and the two Malleus Lords I think we have everything we need.
2. Will Ultan take some time off from his diplomacy job to do his Malleus job in the wake of the incursion?
3. How powerful does a Telepath have to be to read the minds of a Hive World? It's lower than Alpha Plus because those guys control the minds of multiple solar systems so I'm thinking maybe an Alpha or even a Beta can do it.
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1) NO. The Emperor himself decreed them to be heretical.
 
ArchAIngel said:
Possibly thinking about the many many MANY heretics we'll have after this? I mean, it's still a bad idea, but not the worst one.
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Cultists aren't heretics, exactly - heresy is about changing dogma. Chaos cultists are more accurately apostates and traitors. And frankly, the Ordo Malleus should be the ones to deal with them anyways since it's Chaos related to begin with.
 
Enjou said:
Cultists aren't heretics, exactly - heresy is about changing dogma. Chaos cultists are more accurately apostates and traitors. And frankly, the Ordo Malleus should be the ones to deal with them anyways since it's Chaos related to begin with.
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Nay good sir. We shall deal with this using Deathstrikes! It is only Proper.
 
I don't understand.

Fertilizing eggs and unbron one? Is the Emperor within some kind of spiritual womb or something?
 
Andres110 said:
@durin

1. Is there any chance we can refound the Ordo Hereticus? Does it have to be a High Council action or will the Inquisition do it themselves? Between Jane, Lin, and the two Malleus Lords I think we have everything we need.
2. Will Ultan take some time off from his diplomacy job to do his Malleus job in the wake of the incursion?
3. How powerful does a Telepath have to be to read the minds of a Hive World? It's lower than Alpha Plus because those guys control the minds of multiple solar systems so I'm thinking maybe an Alpha or even a Beta can do it.
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1. No
2. yes
3. Alpha Plus
as a note I am using my on version of the power rating that is between some of the ones in 40k (in some Alpha plus can break battle titans in others they can control multiple soar systems)
 
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3man75 said:
I don't understand.

Fertilizing eggs and unbron one? Is the Emperor within some kind of spiritual womb or something?
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The Unborn are really powerful Avernus wildlife things we haven't run across yet. They apparently scare the Chaos Gods, who hope they stay Unborn. To put this in perspective, one of the three most powerful psychic beings on Avernus is apparently called the Premature, according to what durin has told us.
 
@durin Maybe I´m wrong but I think that many of the people that want to create a Hordo Hereticus what really want is to have Sisters of Battle as a reinforcement to the psykers/witch hunters or to the inqusition.

It would be possible to create an order of Battlenuns (we have the STCs for it) that serve as troopers for the inquisitions Hordo Malleus and Xenos (they already have the Grey Knights but there are only a few of them)?
 
Fanhunter696 said:
@durin Maybe I´m wrong but I think that many of the people that want to create a Hordo Hereticus what really want is to have Sisters of Battle as a reinforcement to the psykers/witch hunters or to the inqusition.

It would be possible to create an order of Battlenuns (we have the STCs for it) that serve as troopers for the inquisitions Hordo Malleus and Xenos (they already have the Grey Knights but there are only a few of them)?
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no need
 
Hmm.

I wonder if the Necrons know about this worlds secrets as a Forgotten ones bio lab.
 
By the way, where were the Grey Knights during all this? Also, what is their reaction to Fredrick one hitting a greater daemon?
 
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Daemonic Incursion Part Nine: Wildlife
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    • Daemonic Incursion Part Nine: Wildlife

    During the Chaos Incursion there were several new species of wildlife seen or glimpsed, many of them far more deadly then most.

    The most worrying creature? seen was a titanic, kilometre thick pillar of scaled flesh that was seen going over the Azure Islands. Given that this pillar stretched over The Fair Isle, Arbor and Storm's End and went from horizon to horizon for all of them then there is either a creature on Avernus that is at least hundreds of kilometres long, or there are multiple creatures on Avernus tens of kilometres long. Given that the major earthquakes struck just before and after the sightings it is possible that the creature, or creatures, are big enough that their movement triggered the earthquakes. Giving the size of the earthquakes and the timing of the sightings it is probable that all of the sightings were of a single, colossal creature.

    The next new form of creature seen are Leviathans, a large whale like creature that seems to have the ability to inspire others with a psychic song. Nothing more is know about them except for the fact that they were seen congregating around the Island Turtle during the incursion.

    The third new species are a type of Lion with some similarities to Phase-Tigers. This Lion seems to be able to Phase even more effectively and can somehow effect distance with Phasing, being seen doing things like leap hundreds of meters with a single step or clawing daemons well outside of reach. They range from four to six meters long and the larger ones have been seen to take on daemon princes single handedly. While most of the observations of these creatures has come from the Phase-Tigers in Lindon the creatures in question have been seen in every region of Avernus, which casts doubt over the idea that they are native to Lindon.

    While there were no clear views or details there were also reports of armies of reptilian creatures, some in the titan scale, marching north past the cities of Avernus' Spine and Lindon.
     
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