Don't we have a ton of empty human buildings just outside the east side of the High Pass? We can settle the Eotheod there. There's already buildings and they'll be nice and close. It'll also let them take advantage of the trade that will go through the High Pass.
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Aren't those just cabins?
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Glorfindel is familiar with plenty of great works of elder ages, he's being generous in only using the benchmark of things made after he was reborn. The majority of elves live in Mirkwood for sheer numbers. The Noldor are the fewest of the Elves left and start to diminish and go west in larger migrations after the Watchful Peace ends.
The Noldor are in serious decline by this point. Very few children are being born and there is a steady pop decrease as they go to the immortal lands, never to return.
Edit: Ninja'd by Gm, best kind of ninja.
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But the Watchful Peace hasn't even begun.
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Yeah, but they're something. Makes for easy settlement. Obviously we'll help them make a proper town too but it's just really convenient.
I'm also curious about the reaction the elves gave our gift. The Rune of Fate obviously did something for them.
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Yes that leaves Rivendell with a population in the hundreds at the time of the War of the Ring. The Last Alliance left the Noldor with sub 10k elves left in Middle-Earth and some of them live in the Havens and Laurelindorenan although there's fewer Noldor in each of those realms than in Rivendell.
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Well this one, I think, can be attributed to setting differences. LotR is a typically low-magic fantasy world with spikes of high-magic fantasy, especially as time wears on. Enchantments seem to be pretty narrow in general with wonders like the Rings being wonders because they've such broad powers.
Along with much higher pop, Warhammer Fantasy is much more magical. Magic is everywhere, gods interfere blatantly, there are weapons capable of destroying cities created by sentient ratmen, a dead toad on a disc is arguably the most powerful magician in the whole setting (Lord Kroak is best toad), and the dwarves of the setting have their own not-magic that fucks everyone else's magic in the booty. Lesser magics in WHF are the stuff you can make legends of in LotR.
I admit while I love the Dawi I am an Empire simp.
Just imagine soaring walls of stone, lined with cannons. Horsemen carrying pistols and carbines sweeping the Grobi from the field.
Mighty marching armies clad in steel dragging great cannons to blast the enemies from the field.
Just imagine an army like that coming to the aid of Gondor under the banner of the horse lords.
Just imagine soaring walls of stone, lined with cannons. Horsemen carrying pistols and carbines sweeping the Grobi from the field.
Mighty marching armies clad in steel dragging great cannons to blast the enemies from the field.
Just imagine an army like that coming to the aid of Gondor under the banner of the horse lords.
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A potential long-term side effect of the Dwarfs dwelling in and around High Pass might butterfly away Celebrian's capture by orcs a couple hundred years from now.
If the High Pass is held by a people who are friendly with the Noldor, she'd probably go through there to get to Lorien rather than going through Caradhras.
If the High Pass is held by a people who are friendly with the Noldor, she'd probably go through there to get to Lorien rather than going through Caradhras.
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This is secretly my favourite thing of the quest so far, and I've been sitting quietly in glee over it. Cause Celebrian deserved better.
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Quite possibly in an unchanged scenario, but that's so far in the future with an infinite number of possibilities such that I'll be downright ashamed if canon looks so alike.
Oh @Warkeymon i got one thing from that interlude on trade agreements why was Glorifindel crying?
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What is needed before we can begin construction of simpler, reliable artillery like Grudge Throwers and Bolt Throwers @Warkeymon ?
We're about 770 years before the fall of Erebor. Hell, it was literally founded all of a couple of years ago. Just us making the High Pass safe on a permanent basis alone has basically butterflied the whole of canon past our arrival straight out the window.
The Dragon was called to them by the dwarf ring there.
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Man, Framsburg is really close to Gundabad. Have to wonder how the Eothoed managed to survive for five hundred years after the Dwarves hurt them OTL in the same area.
You underestimate the power of the High Pass. After enough time we'll basically be having all of the trade of middle earth flowing into our coffers. Combine that with good ol Dawi craftsmanship and we'll make Erebor look destitute in comparison.
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At some point I want to build a properly runed bolt thrower and a custom made bolt that can be used to slay any dragons that might come for us and our wealth. something like 3 runes of penetrating on the thrower and three runes of accuracy on the bolt so there is no dodging it and it is guaranteed to bite deep.
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Glorfindel wasn't crying, in fact he's rather pleased with his gift.
Wood and the Engineering Hall.
Hmm, having one off super artillery weapons would be useful. @Warkeymon, what Runes would we put on something like the Bolt of a Bolt Thrower? Weapon Runes? Engineering? Both?
I thought Dawi Bolt throwers and Grudge throwers were made of iron and steel?
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Speaking of dragons, Smaug was the last of the great fire-drakes almost 800 years from now, not necessarily right now.
And there are still plenty of other dragons, smaller or not, who would trouble the Dwarves.
Our first encounter with an attacking dragon is very unlikely to be in place of the Sack of Erebor.
And there are still plenty of other dragons, smaller or not, who would trouble the Dwarves.
Our first encounter with an attacking dragon is very unlikely to be in place of the Sack of Erebor.