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Tacit Ronin: The Power of Three

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Smithsguild said:
Fyrstorm (or anyone with access) I'm trying to compile a list of shinies from all the VtW quests, as well as a complete a set of rules as I can find for Jaegerbroiled and realize I'm missing a chart. I am looking specifically for the Jaeger head hit location chart because O-s had this in cherno:

Advanced Conn-Pod Armour [Cherno Alpha]
Coverage: Conn-Pod
Armour Value: 2
Resilience: All
Durability: 6
Special: Rolls 2 dice and picks the lowest for Conn-Pod hits. Critical Conn-pod hit results downgraded to "roll twice on head damage table".
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Kaiju head chart results in a ton of funky non-Jaeger appropriate rolls.

If anyone has a more complete copy I would be eternally grateful
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Damage reference charts linked on the front page. Jaeger Conpod damage.
 
LostDeviljho said:
Damage reference charts linked on the front page. Jaeger Conpod damage.
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No, there should be a Jaeger HEAD table that contains a chart that points towards both the sensor sub-table (comparable to Kaiju Eye table) and the Conpod sub-table. Currently I see location points to head; please look at the location table LDJ 2-20 and tell me which result targets sensors or conpod...

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If QM's are rolling 1d10 1-5 sensors/ 6-10 conpod I'm fine with that but charts are incomplete.

Edit edit - sometimes I'm dumb.
 
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Smithsguild said:
No, there should be a Jaeger HEAD table that contains a chart that points towards both the sensor sub-table (comparable to Kaiju Eye table) and the Conpod sub-table. Currently I see location points to head; please look at the location table LDJ 2-20 and tell me which result targets sensors or conpod...
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Eyes and Head are equivalent to Sensors and Conpod, respectively.
 
Ah, my OCD had me blind to the equivalency...

Feel free to just point and laugh (I do...) :facepalm: :V:V:V


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Hey @Fyrstorm, could we make a blind Jaeger? I'm not sure why we'd do it, except for maybe making a Jaeger with really exotic senses, but I was curious.
 
BungieONI said:
Hey @Fyrstorm, could we make a blind Jaeger? I'm not sure why we'd do it, except for maybe making a Jaeger with really exotic senses, but I was curious.
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I... I guess so, but I don't know why you would. In any case, there's varying degrees of blindness and deafness you could go for. A Jaeger with no conpod windows would basically need to rely on sensor checks constantly to navigate (it'd probably get away with better conpod armour, so that's one advantage I guess). A Jaeger with no sensor suite could maybe manage with the mark 1 eyeball, but would be completely limited to (basic) sight and touch, not to mention completely unable to make sensor checks (at best, you'd have to piggyback off other jaegers' checks). A Jaeger with no windows and no sensor suite would only have a meaningful chance of hitting anything if it were in arms reach, and would require constant communication with other jaegers or LOCCENT to even try to, say, chase down a kaiju outside melee range, or find the location of an ally.

Basically, in terms of usefulness/viability?
- yes sensors, no windows: awkward, but potentially doable. Proper armour for conpod in exchange for constant checks for anything outside melee. High Dex/sensor augs can mitigate this. Sensor damage is terrifying.
- no sensors, yes windows: sort of functional, as long as it's fighting during daytime, in an open space, on land, and there's only one foe to address. Can't make sensor checks, and is completely deaf. Conpod as vulnerable as always, if not more so due to nonexistent sensors.
- no sensors, no windows: 2500 tons of awful.
 
By default, the Blind/Eyeless trait (the advantageous one) reads "all attacks that would hit the Eyes instead hit the Head". Basically, they can't take eye damage for any reason, but the trade off is a bit more of a risk to head damage. Kaiju get away with this not having any further downsides because they're giant monsters with appropriately scaled sensory organs and freaky alien powers.

Really, the main advantage is that they don't have their Eyes as a weakpoint in their armour anymore. Which isn't actually as big a threat to you so much as it is the conpod being weakly armoured. Hence why your more useful equivalent would be the "solid conpod" configuration (that is, no windows) rather than no Sensors as the kaiju do.
 
Speaking of shinies. And SFRB's. And Allegorica... We really should be making something with the design of the Dragonslayer Sword Spear of Dark Souls 3 fame.

I may or may not have been inspired by recent bingewTching of DS3 PvP videos. And Diablo 3's Imperius.

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>.>

BUT A MECHA ANGELBOT CHARGING FROM THE HEAVENS WITH A CRACKLING SWORDSPEAR WOULD BE SO GODDAMNED COOL!!!
 
EdinoiZ said:
Speaking of shinies. And SFRB's. And Allegorica... We really should be making something with the design of the Dragonslayer Sword Spear of Dark Souls 3 fame.

I may or may not have been inspired by recent bingewTching of DS3 PvP videos. And Diablo 3's Imperius.

<.<

>.>

BUT A MECHA ANGELBOT CHARGING FROM THE HEAVENS WITH A CRACKLING SWORDSPEAR WOULD BE SO GODDAMNED COOL!!!
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I see your Mecha Angelbot and I raise you Gespenst Kick :V
 
Fyrstorm said:
I... I guess so, but I don't know why you would. In any case, there's varying degrees of blindness and deafness you could go for. A Jaeger with no conpod windows would basically need to rely on sensor checks constantly to navigate (it'd probably get away with better conpod armour, so that's one advantage I guess). A Jaeger with no sensor suite could maybe manage with the mark 1 eyeball, but would be completely limited to (basic) sight and touch, not to mention completely unable to make sensor checks (at best, you'd have to piggyback off other jaegers' checks). A Jaeger with no windows and no sensor suite would only have a meaningful chance of hitting anything if it were in arms reach, and would require constant communication with other jaegers or LOCCENT to even try to, say, chase down a kaiju outside melee range, or find the location of an ally.

Basically, in terms of usefulness/viability?
- yes sensors, no windows: awkward, but potentially doable. Proper armour for conpod in exchange for constant checks for anything outside melee. High Dex/sensor augs can mitigate this. Sensor damage is terrifying.
- no sensors, yes windows: sort of functional, as long as it's fighting during daytime, in an open space, on land, and there's only one foe to address. Can't make sensor checks, and is completely deaf. Conpod as vulnerable as always, if not more so due to nonexistent sensors.
- no sensors, no windows: 2500 tons of awful.
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What about armored shutters we can retract if we lose sensors?
 
EdinoiZ said:
B-but having a Jaeger titanfall on a Kaiju, spear first, with the pilots screaming something like "THUNDERFALL!!!" is so much cooler!
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I already proposed the Dragoon Jaeger concept way back and mentioned it a couple times since then. The base for it, Piercer Savage, is waiting for us in Oblivion Bay.
 
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I'm all for a good crusade, provided we put the fire out first on our front lawn. Goryo ? (Underground nest with deep dark pit), Vulcans nest infestation. These are the problems that need stomped on until they are greasy smears, once those are addressed I'll feel better about Oblivion Bay 2.0.
 
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Smithsguild said:
I'm all for a good crusade, provided we put the fire out first on our front lawn. Goryo ? (Underground nest with deep dark pit), Vulcans nest infestation. These are the problems that need stomped on until they are greasy smears, once those are addressed I'll feel better about Oblivion 2.0.
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I'm all up for poking the Hole to Alien Hell and some Aggressive Terraforming. On that note the Kaiju out east making a castle is something else we might want to go hunt.
 
Fyrstorm said:
I... I guess so, but I don't know why you would. In any case, there's varying degrees of blindness and deafness you could go for. A Jaeger with no conpod windows would basically need to rely on sensor checks constantly to navigate (it'd probably get away with better conpod armour, so that's one advantage I guess). A Jaeger with no sensor suite could maybe manage with the mark 1 eyeball, but would be completely limited to (basic) sight and touch, not to mention completely unable to make sensor checks (at best, you'd have to piggyback off other jaegers' checks). A Jaeger with no windows and no sensor suite would only have a meaningful chance of hitting anything if it were in arms reach, and would require constant communication with other jaegers or LOCCENT to even try to, say, chase down a kaiju outside melee range, or find the location of an ally.

Basically, in terms of usefulness/viability?
- yes sensors, no windows: awkward, but potentially doable. Proper armour for conpod in exchange for constant checks for anything outside melee. High Dex/sensor augs can mitigate this. Sensor damage is terrifying.
- no sensors, yes windows: sort of functional, as long as it's fighting during daytime, in an open space, on land, and there's only one foe to address. Can't make sensor checks, and is completely deaf. Conpod as vulnerable as always, if not more so due to nonexistent sensors.
- no sensors, no windows: 2500 tons of awful.
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We could always add stuff like night-vision to the window to mitigate some of the disadvantages of the second option. But yeah, operating purely with Mk. I Eyeball, with a giant robot? Bad idea,
Smithsguild said:
I'm all for a good crusade, provided we put the fire out first on our front lawn. Goryo ? (Underground nest with deep dark pit), Vulcans nest infestation. These are the problems that need stomped on until they are greasy smears, once those are addressed I'll feel better about Oblivion Bay 2.0.
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We really need more Comm actions. Such investigations would likely qualify, and I'd love to be doing more diplomacy and explorative work anyway. Plus, we'll want them for interactions between cities. We could always reverse engineer the computers currently giving us free Comms actions next turn, to open up more of this sort of thing.
BungieONI said:
I'm all up for poking the Hole to Alien Hell and some Aggressive Terraforming. On that note the Kaiju out east making a castle is something else we might want to go hunt.
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Next turn is fairly packed, if we want to do the upgrades to our Jaegers that have been proposed. Should be much easier to do the turn after next, I think. Though we do have a lot of things to be doing, and the Goryo and Vulcan stuff might be more pressing, or at least easier to slot in. Not sure.
 
Smithsguild said:
I'm all for a good crusade, provided we put the fire out first on our front lawn. Goryo ? (Underground nest with deep dark pit), Vulcans nest infestation. These are the problems that need stomped on until they are greasy smears, once those are addressed I'll feel better about Oblivion Bay 2.0.
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This. We need an expedition to Goryo's nest ASAP. I'd rather wait until we have some flamethrowers to deal with Vulcan's nest, if we really need to, but better safe than sorry.

Huh. Maybe we could just fire a Sunfire or a twelve after we finish researching them?

BungieONI said:
I'm all up for poking the Hole to Alien Hell and some Aggressive Terraforming. On that note the Kaiju out east making a castle is something else we might want to go hunt.
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Let the Kaiju build a few more walls first, it's not fun to siege a castle when the holes in the walls are already there. :V
 
Highwind said:
This. We need an expedition to Goryo's nest ASAP. I'd rather wait until we have some flamethrowers to deal with Vulcan's nest, if we really need to, but better safe than sorry.

Huh. Maybe we could just fire a Sunfire or a twelve after we finish researching them?


Let the Kaiju build a few more walls first, it's not fun to siege a castle when the holes in the walls are already there. :V
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That's a perfect solution. Long range bombardment of Holy Thermal Shock. I approve of this use of Sunfires.

Oh but of course. Gotta let her make sure the house is all nice and tidy before we light it on fire right? :V
 
Highwind said:
This. We need an expedition to Goryo's nest ASAP. I'd rather wait until we have some flamethrowers to deal with Vulcan's nest, if we really need to, but better safe than sorry.

Huh. Maybe we could just fire a Sunfire or a twelve after we finish researching them?

Let the Kaiju build a few more walls first, it's not fun to siege a castle when the holes in the walls are already there. :V
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Torch 'ALL THE THINGS' ; volcanic soil is the richest, second richest is that is formed from the burnt bodies of our enemies...

New commercial spot for Seattle PPDCTV ; featuring a CGI Smokey the Bear In Jaeger Pilot suit "Only you can light their forest on fire..."
 
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