Some interesting stuff I ran across that might be worth looking into for future weapons research.


https://taskandpurpose.com/army-rifle-ribbon-gun/

A neat concept, but it seems awkwardly implemented in that gun. The huge magazine holding the smaller magazine blocks protruding on the side is especially weird.

That said, the basic idea of caseless ammunition stored in a smaller magazine block that is ejected when spent can work for us. I could see a variation of that making on-the-fly ammo type selection possible, by simply making the blocks hold more rounds and adding a mechanism to change which block is feeding the chamber. I'll need to think about this more carefully to come up with a design that makes sense.
 
Some interesting stuff I ran across that might be worth looking into for future weapons research.


https://taskandpurpose.com/army-rifle-ribbon-gun/

Yeah...there are issues there. It's got some very interesting concepts at work, and it does make a lot of technical sense, but the durability factor might not be there. "If it ain't broke, it hasn't been issued to the infantry" works because it's kinda true. Resilience is one of the traits looked for in infantry rifles for a reason. Sh*t happens. Those mechanisms are awfully open, and seem like they'd get sand and rot in them pretty easily.
A neat concept, but it seems awkwardly implemented in that gun. The huge magazine holding the smaller magazine blocks protruding on the side is especially weird.
Yep. Weight is definitely one concern with those big blocks of metal, too. That's going to make the gun pull to the right, for sure. And using actuators instead of explosive propellant, while interesting, also seems like it's a potential point-of-failure. Not sure what the MTTF is on those, comparatively, but I could see it being higher than most rifles.
That said, the basic idea of caseless ammunition stored in a smaller magazine block that is ejected when spent can work for us. I could see a variation of that making on-the-fly ammo type selection possible, by simply making the blocks hold more rounds and adding a mechanism to change which block is feeding the chamber. I'll need to think about this more carefully to come up with a design that makes sense.
You could probably pull that off with a regular gun too, though.
 
I mean, it is a prototype undergoing testing. It ain't gonna be perfect. Just thought some of the principles of it (multibore barrel, the heat regulation, the "powershot") could be neat for implementing here.

Edit: also, nix, it's still explosive propelled ammo. The actuators replace the mechanical firing pin, not the propellant.
 
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You could probably pull that off with a regular gun too, though.
Yeah, it'd boil down to stacking a number of normal magazines and a mechanism to move them so the desired type of magazine loads. Funnily enough the simplest arrangement I could come up with would give the gun a crossbow-like shape by stacking the magazines sideways and feeding reloads to individual magazines Garand-style... so it kinda follows the design of that prototype, but with the magazine of magazines sticking out of the gun from both sides. Jamming would be the biggest issue with this design, but it'd work. Probably.

I mean, it is a prototype undergoing testing. It ain't gonna be perfect. Just thought some of the principles of it (multibore barrel, the heat regulation, the "powershot") could be neat for implementing here.

Edit: also, nix, it's still explosive propelled ammo. The actuators replace the mechanical firing pin, not the propellant.
I do like the ideas even if the current implementation is awkward. And it amuses me that this is essentially a modern Duck's foot pistol.
 
I mean, it is a prototype undergoing testing. It ain't gonna be perfect. Just thought some of the principles of it (multibore barrel, the heat regulation, the "powershot") could be neat for implementing here.

Edit: also, nix, it's still explosive propelled ammo. The actuators replace the mechanical firing pin, not the propellant.
...Fair enough. That article was a bit unclear on that, though. Not sure how much heat is an issue for us right now. Especially since we just got the tech for a wireless cooling system.
Yeah, it'd boil down to stacking a number of normal magazines and a mechanism to move them so the desired type of magazine loads. Funnily enough the simplest arrangement I could come up with would give the gun a crossbow-like shape by stacking the magazines sideways and feeding reloads to individual magazines Garand-style... so it kinda follows the design of that prototype, but with the magazine of magazines sticking out of the gun from both sides. Jamming would be the biggest issue with this design, but it'd work. Probably.
What about something like a revolver mechanism, but for the mags? That'd give you up to six options. It'd be bulky as f*ck, but pretty much any mechanism like this is going to be bulky. Though...I guess with that Ribbon Gun, you could always just load the mags sideways, to get four options whenever. Wouldn't be that hard to compensate for the pull, either,
 
There's also the thing we did with our Garnele's, could be we could take that idea and inspired by this come up with something else for Jaeger use.
 
What about something like a revolver mechanism, but for the mags? That'd give you up to six options. It'd be bulky as f*ck, but pretty much any mechanism like this is going to be bulky.
A revolver mechanism works too. My main concern was making sure the top of the rifle wouldn't be obstructed so we can have some good old fashioned sights on the gun, hence stacking the magazines side-by-side.

Though...I guess with that Ribbon Gun, you could always just load the mags sideways, to get four options whenever. Wouldn't be that hard to compensate for the pull, either,
However you go about it the gun would be either much more mechanically complex or much heavier than a normal gun.

The mechanically simplest solution, four barrels that are individually fed by different magazines with a selector to choose which one fires when pulling the trigger, is much heavier since you have the weight of the additional barrels and magazines.

Any system that uses only one barrel to fire different magazines is bound to be very complex and might cause more jamming. Plus you might very well have to switch the whole breech along with the magazine when changing ammo types, so we don't get a round of Special Bakelite chambered when we want AP.

There's also the thing we did with our Garnele's, could be we could take that idea and inspired by this come up with something else for Jaeger use.
The changes to the Garnele from this downtime were sorta what we want here, but they achieve the reloading/ammo changes by changing the position of the loader rather than the magazines. It's close enough to what we want anyway.

Hmm. Since the description mentions how it's a good thing the Garneles aren't meant to be carried due to the bulk added by this modification, we might need to change to a different kind of magazine, likely with one that holds a smaller number of rounds. Box magazines are the obvious choice sonce they're a simple and proven design, but maybe a horizontal magazine like the one the P-90 uses might work better. Put a horizontal magazine of each type on each side of the gun and have the loading assembly rotate to change the active magazine, which is relatively simple and has the added benefit of keeping the magazines compact and flush to the sides of the gun, meaning it adds less bulk (though not necessarily weight) to the gun.
 
A revolver mechanism works too. My main concern was making sure the top of the rifle wouldn't be obstructed so we can have some good old fashioned sights on the gun, hence stacking the magazines side-by-side.
You could do that without obscuring the sights. You'd have a very hard limit on mag size, though. Fire from the top of the mag.
However you go about it the gun would be either much more mechanically complex or much heavier than a normal gun.

The mechanically simplest solution, four barrels that are individually fed by different magazines with a selector to choose which one fires when pulling the trigger, is much heavier since you have the weight of the additional barrels and magazines.

Any system that uses only one barrel to fire different magazines is bound to be very complex and might cause more jamming. Plus you might very well have to switch the whole breech along with the magazine when changing ammo types, so we don't get a round of Special Bakelite chambered when we want AP.
Actually, revolver mechanisms are usually pretty resilient and resistant to jamming. The issue is usually the gaps in the barrel more than anything else. Though I guess jams would still be pretty bad.
 
Sword fangs, actually. Unless you want to do a Death of a Thousand Cuts thing with comparatively tiny Blade Bits, which might work, but why cut the enemy with hundreds of tiny flying swords when you can shank them with big flying swords?
Because it's more elegant and precise.
 
Because it's more elegant and precise.
Well, his strongest move is still turning all those into a single sword. Bigger is better, which is half the point of the Jaegers themselves. :V

Also, I have concerns about the Armor piercing capabilities of hypothetical Sword Bits. Though I suppose we can always shove them down the Kaiju's mouth and assorted orifices. :V
 
Well, his strongest move is still turning all those into a single sword. Bigger is better, which is half the point of the Jaegers themselves. :V

Also, I have concerns about the Armor piercing capabilities of hypothetical Sword Bits. Though I suppose we can always shove them down the Kaiju's mouth and assorted orifices. :V
I see you have grasped one of my strategies.
 
Quite.

In fact we've literally already thought of giving Phenom BIGGER SPOOKIER HANDS using Remote Weapon technology.
Pretty sure I was among the first ones to suggest we give Phenom BIGGER, SPOOKIER HANDS, but I never quite made the connection to the old Rocket Punch that flies out of your arm, punches the enemy, then comes back on its own. Until now.
 
Sword fangs, actually. Unless you want to do a Death of a Thousand Cuts thing with comparatively tiny Blade Bits, which might work, but why cut the enemy with hundreds of tiny flying swords when you can shank them with big flying swords?

I don't expect to ever see this but the terror of Scalpel nanites, that fly inside mouth, nostrils, ears, ocular cavities vivisecting soft tissues deconstructing bone/tendon or nerve/muscle connections until they find a distinctly different orifice to exit by.
 
Pretty sure I was among the first ones to suggest we give Phenom BIGGER, SPOOKIER HANDS, but I never quite made the connection to the old Rocket Punch that flies out of your arm, punches the enemy, then comes back on its own. Until now.
I think you were! I tried to find it but couldn't.

So, what do you think the six rolls were about? Cat 0 infiltration?
 
I think you were! I tried to find it but couldn't.

So, what do you think the six rolls were about? Cat 0 infiltration?
The Scan and Search rolls makes it sound like we're looking for something moving through our territory, so maybe the last ones were for Interception? It would fit with something moving fast or stealthily somewhere within both cities' reach.
 
The Scan and Search rolls makes it sound like we're looking for something moving through our territory, so maybe the last ones were for Interception? It would fit with something moving fast or stealthily somewhere within both cities' reach.
Hmm. That'd be a cool way to do it, and encourage the use of forward outposts.

Maybe its another Wrecking Crew, and we are trying to find them after catching a hint.
 
Now, at long last...

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It is 0300 hours. The sky is still dark, filled with clouds and the faint light of stars. All is quiet in the outskirts, save the chirping of wildlife and the whoosh of wind.

But soon, that peace shatters.

Neo-Seattle said:
Scanning: 6+7=13
Patrolling: 2+6=8
Internal Security (+1): 9+1=10
For Neo-Seattle, it starts with an alarm.

A routine sensor sweep has caught a pair of large, radioactive signatures just over a dozen kilometres to the west! Their identities are unknown, but they're certainly new arrivals!

<ALERT! MULTIPLE HIGH-ENERGY SIGNATURES DETECTED!>
<LOCATION: WESTERN SECTORS>


A moment later, a flurry of other alerts sound off throughout the command centre, coming from several places at once! Internal security has found a group of seemingly civilian individuals near the Shatterdome, armed with explosives and other tools of sabotage! They've been detained, but there's no telling if anything's been planted yet-- any deployments are going to need to be held back while they check for anything in the area.

Meanwhile, one Perimeter patrol group has found what appear to be incoming units-- followed shortly after by another group on the opposite side of the city! Composition of these forces are unknown, but they seems to be a mix of aerial types and surface-bound types, they're not responding to commands, and they're incredibly close to the city!

You are under attack! Enemy forces appear to be incoming from the Northwestern and Southeastern Sectors, and both groups are only about 40 units away!

The high-energy signatures are located out by Bainbridge Island, about 14 kilometres away. Their readings are consistent with nuclear power reactors, but seem to be in the process of startup.

Due to catching the attacker's saboteurs before they could inflict damage, Neo-Seattle is delayed from deploying for only 1 round! Defensive Augments may ignore this delay.


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Everett said:
Scanning: 21+4=25
Patrolling: 6+1=7
Internal Security (+1): 6+1=7
For Everett, however, the wake-up call is far more violent.

A series of detonations split the quiet of the night, as hidden explosives rip through transmission towers, hanger doors, and power lines! A third of the city is knocked dark, while fires rage across the docks and airfield! Emergency Response and Self-Defense Force members are immediately forced into action, trying to battle the flames and quell the disaster before it spreads any further.

Nobody notices the figures sneaking away from the smoldering destruction, their work now complete.

Sabotage:
(4)

Astonishingly, however, the sensor web remains functional-- and a brand new alarm goes off, setting the city's leaders on edge. Something familiar-- not to Everett, but the Protectorate as a whole-- is coming.

<ALERT! BREACH ACTIVITY DETECTED!>
<LOCATION: NORTHERN SECTOR>
<SIGNATURE NOT WITHIN PARAMETERS OF SERIZAWA SCALE.>
<EMISSION READINGS ANALYZED. IDENTIFICATION: SUPERCELL EXHAUST>


Even as the members of the conventional force and jaeger operations are delayed by the sabotage, order tries to reassert itself, and those who guard the Perimeter rush to high alert. Just in time, too, because the Supercell's not the only thing incoming.

A group of boat-sized units are approaching rapidly from the bay, while another of ground-based units are coming in from the south! Due to how the scanners are calibrated, neither were picked up until the patrol teams found them, and they're already close to the city!

You are under attack! Currently, enemy forces appear to be incoming from the Western and Southern Sectors, and both groups are only about 35 units away!

The signature with the Supercell reactor is located 12.5 kilometres north of Everett, but isn't moving. The radiation profile is similar to that of a standard Mark VI Supercell on a low output setting, though the reactor's shielding seems substandard. The actual signature is extremely heavy and dense, with a bipedal silhouette and high concentration of metals.

Due to the attacker's sabotage, Everett is delayed from deploying its units for 4 rounds! Defensive Augments may ignore this delay.

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Make your move. Combat starts now.
 
So basically we're being attacked by unknown forces who've managed to bootleg KRAUN's Jaegers (judging from the comparative lack of quality), and we have to just let them attack Everett with no ability to retaliate for 4 rounds? Screw you too, saboteurs.
 
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