[X] 400 Caves of Wonder Guardian + 200 Senzu Bean (Dragon Ball) (Use Debt) + Micro Bonus

[X] 500 Chernabog + 200 Senzu Bean (Dragon Ball) (Use Debt) + Micro Bonus

People were mentioning the Warp-Aci, but I don't know the material and there was no mention of it crossing alternate dimensions. I'm choosing the Caves of Wonder not for the treasure, but for the traps, as this is also the Kingdom Hearts version of the cave and it could make for a good fusion summon with Nimue, if that is possible @zagan?

I'm interested in Chernabog because your not just summoning him, your summoning the damn volcano he lives in as well, as he has no feet and his most powerful attack is causing it to erupt in the game.
 
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[X] 200 Senzu Bean (Dragon Ball) + Micro Bonus

It's not a case of "Too good to use". We are still quite strong without another beatstick or a mountain of gold. So, reserving the Debt power to get a true game changer, like we could have got at least two times since the start of the quest, is the correct use for that power at our current power level.
 
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I'm interested in Chernabog because your not just summoning him, your summoning the damn volcano he lives in as well, as he has no feet and his most powerful attack is causing it to erupt in the game.
I assumed he'd just have feet, and the Volcano?
If he is so big his head is twice Sora's size. His entire body might be 110 ish feet. He has a smaller form but damn that's big
Then there's the mountain. How big is that? Will Zagan do some CM duckery to make it fit or a pocket space?
Wanna see a Behemoth vs Chernabog fight!
 
I assumed he'd just have feet, and the Volcano?
It mentions in the wiki that he's always shown to be inside Bald mountain, even at the End of the World it came with him when his world, Symphony of Sorcerys, was lost to darkness.
Then there's the mountain. How big is that? Will Zagan do some CM duckery to make it fit or a pocket space?
I'd just assume like the other big monster summons, you need to be careful where you summon it and never do so indoors. Unlike the Invocations, it is a full on creature that can pull a fist fight with kiaju sized monsters, but he uses mostly ranged magic attacks since he's stuck in that mountain.
Wanna see a Behemoth vs Chernabog fight!
Would hope they play some classical music during it, something Modest but powerful would be good.
 
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Vote closed: Winning Vote: 400 Caves of Wonder Guardian + 200 Senzu Bean (Dragon Ball) (Use Debt) + Micro Bonus

Well there we go, after a surprisingly lively voting session. As always those are my favorites. So we got the Cave of Wonder and magic beans.
For the beans, I only have one word to add. Swarm. Think about it.

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I'm choosing the Caves of Wonder not for the treasure, but for the traps, as this is also the Kingdom Hearts version of the cave and it could make for a good fusion summon with Nimue, if that is possible @zagan?
Yes, fusing the Cave with Nimuie would work. The Guardian would take the place of the door (and would be able to prevent people from entering, and the cave itself would fuse with the Dungeon. Maybe an extra floor in between the last floor and the core room.

I'm interested in Chernabog because your not just summoning him, your summoning the damn volcano he lives in as well, as he has no feet and his most powerful attack is causing it to erupt in the game.
Then there's the mountain. How big is that? Will Zagan do some CM duckery to make it fit or a pocket space?
Wanna see a Behemoth vs Chernabog fight!
Chernabog wouldn't be summoned with his volcano and he would have feet. However, if Alex stumbled onto an active volcano somewhere or even just a big enough pool of lava, Chernabog could make use of it.
 
For the beans, I only have one word to add. Swarm. Think about it.
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Maybe an extra floor in between the last floor and the core room.
And like a good mimic the second someone takes anything other than the one item up upon the pedestal the whole room collapses in to lava!
That would've been interesting during a Behemoth fight.
Behemoth might make a Volcano equivalent...
 
For the beans, I only have one word to add. Swarm. Think about it.
Oh yeah I was thinking about that too Swarm combined with 3xDay Summon means we could technically call out 300 Senzu Beans at minimum a day if needed in an emergency (and thats not getting into Substitute Summoning). On a side note wonder how much of an energy boost Eidolon would get eating a Senzu Bean?
 
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Oh yeah I was thinking about that too Swarm combined with 3xDay Summon means we could technically call out 300 Senzu Beans at minimum a day if needed in an emergency (and thats not getting into Substitute Summoning). On a side note wonder how much of an energy boost Eidolon would get eating a Senzu Bean?
I'm not sure regenerating Ki would count for the Shards. Do we ever see a Magic user in DBZ use a Senzu to regain magic?
 
What do you mean by nerfed? I tried to be faithful to the source, it could even be considered boosted considering that the wiki never mentioned the Anti-Monsters in any other shape than humanoid. If you mean the Balance Breaker, well that's still a possibility but that will need to be unlocked.

Anti Monsters are a creation of only a single Annihilation Maker user. Annihilation Maker on it's own is much stronger. The main use of AM is that the user can create any monster in their shadow based on their imagination. Obviously that would be a bit too strong so the author made it so it's user was actually kidnapped and forced to create this one type of monster. Even the balance breaker that happens in the novel is also only possible because of who the user is. Sacred Gears are also created by god to adapt and evolve based on the users thoughts, needs, and feelings which is stated to be the reason why most sacred gears work the way they do and also the source of subspecies.

An example of how an actually developed Annihilation Maker subspecies would look like is this fic. Sacred Gears in DxD are usually said to be miracles created by God by way of sealing supernatural creatures. The most accepted or the most common theory is that Annihilation Maker is the womb of Tiamat who is a primordial goddess that gave birth to monsters capable of fighting gods thus why AM is counted as a Longinus that could end the world.
 
Anti Monsters are a creation of only a single Annihilation Maker user. Annihilation Maker on it's own is much stronger. The main use of AM is that the user can create any monster in their shadow based on their imagination. Obviously that would be a bit too strong so the author made it so it's user was actually kidnapped and forced to create this one type of monster. Even the balance breaker that happens in the novel is also only possible because of who the user is. Sacred Gears are also created by god to adapt and evolve based on the users thoughts, needs, and feelings which is stated to be the reason why most sacred gears work the way they do and also the source of subspecies.

An example of how an actually developed Annihilation Maker subspecies would look like is this fic. Sacred Gears in DxD are usually said to be miracles created by God by way of sealing supernatural creatures. The most accepted or the most common theory is that Annihilation Maker is the womb of Tiamat who is a primordial goddess that gave birth to monsters capable of fighting gods thus why AM is counted as a Longinus that could end the world.
Yeah the scared gear got nerfed @zagan
 
Would Dimensional Adapting a Senzu Bean into a Slime be a valid option?
That is ingenious. A Senzu Bean Producing Slime. That way we don't have to worry about the Menagerie's limit and only worry about Zeni's Limits. That's right, I named it. Is good name, no?
I was just looking at DA options for our latest partners just before you posted.
I've decided against the Slime transformation for the Senzu beans. I think it would make things too easy if you could stockpile them.
However, I've decided to include a Terraria Summoning Item Transformation for it, a cloth bag as we see in the show.
So it will be At-will Senzu, but only one at a time and within a limited distance. (Or 100 clothes bag with Swarm)
I'll be updating the DA post shortly.
 
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