Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Well yeah, we're definitely also going to do that. I'm just exploring possibilities, and we've underestimated what Songs can do.
I will remind once again, Build more Defense Stations on our Border World.
Second the problem is more housing AND feeding them, the two are related but not the same. We still need to be able to House that much population. I push for some war with the Black Ash Clan or we skip taking Voxx primus, we take the Agri-worlds and keep pushing past them to take the rest of the dutchy before relocated some of the population of the Hive world to those places instead or spread out he burden more. I do think building lesser rings is doable just no the 30 points of the Super Ring.
I do agree with the controlled population growth and the self-sufficiency of the Hive World and the Irritia could help immensely in that. Either that or take as many willing recruits that want to prove something or thank us for salvation and have them as frontline troopers when push for the rest of the Dutchy.
Also recall we need to keep two SBG's at the border world to stop any attempts to push there. I would say slow boiling Voxx Primus would also help us build up Defense Stations more and only need to keep One Sector Battlegroup there, as well as buy time to start on some construction of maybe Lesser Rings. Or like I have stated, we just need to find a direction to expand and go through with it to lessen the burden we do take Voxx Primus, that wait we can do both. Put some of the excess population on some of our worlds and build some rings.
Fair enough, you are the one that started this and had it in mind. Just never came up and talking about the Thread as a whole here and how things tend to go.
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I... have a food plank, too? There's Food Planks, there's Housing Planks, there's Population Reduction Planks (which are functionally both).
Yep. I expect the idea with the Irrita or whatnot not to actually do anything immediately... but instead to unlock an Action to go ask them.
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At a certain point we should have the Irrita look at the Howling Eye and the other planets we consider unideal. Not sure what they can do with nuclear fallout but we can ask
Huh, I thought it'd be harder to sneak agents into other worlds that weren't Hive Worlds. so we can do exporting agents to other worlds in the Dutchy? or just neighboring ones?
true. So, plan of 'do a little of everything'? try to expand more so the burden is spread out across more worlds, build some stations and rings to house the population and introduce population control when we get there?
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The problem is that this would literally kill hundreds of billions of people. That's literally the only route Voxx Primus can be supplied from.
Conquering the Black Ash Clan has a bit more merit, but we can't just roll over them, we would need to weaken the defenses at Ultima Sigritta first. Maybe we can do it after building fixed defenses?
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The Howling Eye is an orbit of a black hole, don't think there's much to be done in terraforming there.
No light for plants. No atmosphere. No heat.
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We do already build fixed defenses at Ultima Sigritta, and probably more than we do on the average world because it's a Military-Base System.
Now, we can in fact take an action to build even more, but we'd have to weigh that against taking an action to build out an SBG.
Now, we can in fact take an action to build even more, but we'd have to weigh that against taking an action to build out an SBG.
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I honestly think the 30 action Orbital Infrastructure plan is a pretty good deal. Cooky said it would also provide is 5 levels of both Heavy Industry and Void Industry on top of either wholly or largely dealing with the population problem of Vox Primus.
Thus, it's essentially the same as us spending the 10 actions needed to upgrade both Void Industy and Heavy Industry 5 levels (which is something we need to do eventually anyway, and there's likely no way we can avoid those investments) with the final 10 actions being the actual housing element of things.
I really think it's a pretty good deal, all things considered, it's just a solution that will take a metric boatload of investment for a good payoff.
Thus, it's essentially the same as us spending the 10 actions needed to upgrade both Void Industy and Heavy Industry 5 levels (which is something we need to do eventually anyway, and there's likely no way we can avoid those investments) with the final 10 actions being the actual housing element of things.
I really think it's a pretty good deal, all things considered, it's just a solution that will take a metric boatload of investment for a good payoff.
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True but we can ask. And we do have other planets as well so might as well.
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Actually, instead of that I would prefer to wait until we take Voxx Primus and the neighboring Agri-worlds THEN just build up a fuckton of defenses in Voxx Secundus, make that the place where we hold the line. Well, that or Echish in the Breskal Subsectors we can have a foothold and not make the place where we're holding the line be where all the food is at.
You guys are talking about the problem of food, but this 700 billions bring another problem, that is The Great Heresies gaining even more power as they will go and convert a decent number of those people and that can ballon out of control, as Hero said they are growing stronger in the background the more time we take to get rid of them.
HeroCooky
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Hrmmm...
Ruthlessness, Family, Struggle, Death, Health, Silence.
As long as I am showing it to you on a map, you can infiltrate.
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We've gotten rid of one just this turn. We are absolutely going to be quashing them before we take Voxx Primus.
Now I wouldn't be surprised if taking Voxx Primus leads to another surge of heresies, but that's not something you can really deal with pre-emptively.
So yeah, we could do that with 2-3 actions? Two if we slow-roll it and use our Auto-Melodies to pick two of them, three if we don't.
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@The Laurent what are your thoughts on the 30-action orbital infrastructure option as a solution/part of the solution for the Vox Population issue? Considering how long it's still going to be to get the infiltration to the point where taking Vox I think it's a decent option, especially with the extra development levels we'd get with it. Even if it isn't fully finished by the time we knock things of as long as its close when the Boogaloo starts I think we'd be alright.
Also @HeroCooky if we did go for the 30 action project could we also invest in something that would give the project an auto-ticker? Not to let it complete automatically but to help speed the prosses along, a 0.5 Auto-Ticker alongside 1 action/turn investment cuts a full in-game century off the completion timer.
Also @HeroCooky if we did go for the 30 action project could we also invest in something that would give the project an auto-ticker? Not to let it complete automatically but to help speed the prosses along, a 0.5 Auto-Ticker alongside 1 action/turn investment cuts a full in-game century off the completion timer.
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I'm skeptical, that feels like a bit much as a mega-project. The point of the five points is to kinda create a bunch of Large But Not Mega-Projects, with ample room for Write-in Shortcuts/solutions, so that we can mix them up rather than spending entire turns being entirely bored.
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But that's kinda a very obscure thing for a Song? Like there's so much we could do with Songs, so much we NEED, and all you're thinking about is basically birth control? We could make a song to help us fight in the void better, a song that could get people to stand down so less people would have to die, a song to fight against disease and illness, and this is the Song that you want to work towards?
Seriously?
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...in a quote where I literally asked about it as a whimsical possible addition to an already existing plan, you're getting at me for this?
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Okay, just to paint what I'm saying, the cliche that people are sometimes told, or told to idealize even if it doesn't fit, is that they're born because their parents really loved them and had all the right reasons, and there was always financial security for the child, and the environment and resources and time were perfect, and certainly no one was unplanned or came about from anything except perfectly understood consent.
A Song that literally made that true, that every child was wanted, loved, and planned, would actually be really fucking weird and contrary to most of human experience throughout history. It'd actually be really weird, and in a strange way it's compelling and amusing to me.
However, it's also 2-3 actions in a fucked up action economy, and so like poking the Weird Ships, it's something more narratively than mechanically amusing, hence why I am not adding it as a key plank of my plan and instead just shooting the shit with the QM about it.
A Song that literally made that true, that every child was wanted, loved, and planned, would actually be really fucking weird and contrary to most of human experience throughout history. It'd actually be really weird, and in a strange way it's compelling and amusing to me.
However, it's also 2-3 actions in a fucked up action economy, and so like poking the Weird Ships, it's something more narratively than mechanically amusing, hence why I am not adding it as a key plank of my plan and instead just shooting the shit with the QM about it.
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+999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 social credit,please await for your party approved tendies
(please ignore the incoming demographic crysis when everyone is grandpa that cant work and needs aid)
preservatives (make every fucking non-reproductive),entertainment (every hour playing games,is one not fucking),education (because every hour teen kids and young adults are on class is one they arent fucking),laboral opportunities (because every hour they are working is one they aint fucking),it works because so far it did crash modern earth birth rates
only thing that isnt damaging ours,is that we are a religious fanatic society for whom birth rate may be encourage
but if we dont actively encourage the hive world,and let high developement take its toll.....
combine it with a mass emigration campaign,we can likely crash the birth rate in a few generations to the point of stagnation
in the meantime,we can use the pop surpluss to go on a colonization frenzy campaign
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I think people are ignoring that time is a pressing factor here.
Population control is pointless when starcation starts in days.
Any solution has to be local.
Population control is pointless when starcation starts in days.
We need 700 of these transport ships a month, to keep that Hive alive.
Any solution has to be local.
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...we're already working on some of that? Like we're not there yet, but our population down there is mostly supplying themselves from farms and factories that are local. Now, can it really scale up from 150 million to 700 billion (or from whatever its final 'semi-peacetime' numbers are to 700 billion)?
No, not alone, but it's actually a start.