Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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HeroCooky
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Oh that's fun. The trade route and new markets go through our lands. Which means we can closer integrate the Ashan families to our federation.
Oh wait. @HeroCooky one of the minor reasons that some of us wanted Tom was to get our Choirs experience in trying to purge Chaos corruption from a tainted world. Is that even possible?
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[] Plan: OK Then, With Followup
-[] Okay, sure, we were of the impression that you were having a rough time and weren't in any position to handle anything like that. Sure then, you can have it, if you're doing well enough to cleanse the place and make sure they're properly cared for on top of everything else then, I don't think you need any special help getting back on your feet.
--[] Drop the issue, frankly, as much as it'd be nice to have, there's not enough to be worth starting Another war over this. Not when we have so many other issues on the table that we need to sort out still. If they want to break themselves for a few dozen kilos of Auramite, let's just be ready to clean up after them.
-[] Offer potential assistance/guidance for their Psykers in exchange for Preaching Rights.
-[] Bring up the Families and see if they want to get cut into this dance, trade wise (economic, diplomatic, and material benefit for you as the middle-sentient, but benefit for both with access to New Markets.)
So this is the version that doesn't commit any actions/AP but does a little cheap diplomacy.
-[] Okay, sure, we were of the impression that you were having a rough time and weren't in any position to handle anything like that. Sure then, you can have it, if you're doing well enough to cleanse the place and make sure they're properly cared for on top of everything else then, I don't think you need any special help getting back on your feet.
--[] Drop the issue, frankly, as much as it'd be nice to have, there's not enough to be worth starting Another war over this. Not when we have so many other issues on the table that we need to sort out still. If they want to break themselves for a few dozen kilos of Auramite, let's just be ready to clean up after them.
-[] Offer potential assistance/guidance for their Psykers in exchange for Preaching Rights.
-[] Bring up the Families and see if they want to get cut into this dance, trade wise (economic, diplomatic, and material benefit for you as the middle-sentient, but benefit for both with access to New Markets.)
So this is the version that doesn't commit any actions/AP but does a little cheap diplomacy.
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I don't know how to feel about giving them what they want because we are just tired of their tantrum on the matter. However please take shit from them lol
To be honest? If they are willing to Drop SO much for the aurimite, I am actually willing to give it to them in exchange for all that. Aurimite for US as of now would be nice, and plating Lamenters with the stuff would be cool, but if they are willing to give up SO much for it, I am willing to give, Because that implies that it is actually a matter of National Life or death. Given what they said, they must be using it somehow to supplement their navigators, and or replace them, which... Ya makes sense, Warp navigation IS a Matter of life or death for a nation.
As of now, Without a bunch of research we might not do, auramite lets us armour some dudes a do some cool stuff. For them, reading between the lines, its a literal life or death resource that lets them build more ships that can navigate.
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[] Plan: Well if you want it
-[] Okay, sure, we were of the impression that you were having a rough time and weren't in any position to handle anything like that. Sure then, you can have it, if you're doing well enough to cleanse the place and make sure they're properly cared for on top of everything else then, I don't think you need any special help getting back on your feet.
-[] We are willing to give the system, all planets within,
--[] In exchange for the compass they speak of, 1/4th of Auramite mined, preferential trade agreements with us and the Ashan Families and for them to allow our priests to spread our faith in their lands unmolested.
-[] Offer potential assistance/guidance for their Psykers in exchange for Preaching Rights.
Ashan Families we will pay you back for the Jolly economic actions...with this glorious trade deal. For you our friends!
-[] Okay, sure, we were of the impression that you were having a rough time and weren't in any position to handle anything like that. Sure then, you can have it, if you're doing well enough to cleanse the place and make sure they're properly cared for on top of everything else then, I don't think you need any special help getting back on your feet.
-[] We are willing to give the system, all planets within,
--[] In exchange for the compass they speak of, 1/4th of Auramite mined, preferential trade agreements with us and the Ashan Families and for them to allow our priests to spread our faith in their lands unmolested.
-[] Offer potential assistance/guidance for their Psykers in exchange for Preaching Rights.
Ashan Families we will pay you back for the Jolly economic actions...with this glorious trade deal. For you our friends!
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[] Plan: We are patient; let them hold the wealth we shall get their souls
-[] Federation is willing to let the Alliance control Fixxy and Tom, but the Federation shall own every other celestial body in the Yivv system.
-[] In exchange, Alliance shall allow free passage of our missionaries in all of their territories, and if Tom faces major chaos incursion/rebelion, Alliance will transfer it to the Federation.
--[] Federation will also have observers on Tom.
-[] Alliance will also allow us to buy up to 1/3 of auramine production (without tariffs or unfair markups)
My plan is basically to shove the Federation's wealth and prosperity in the face of the Alliance population combined with missionary work and trade; it should make it clear to the Alliance's population and junior leadership that joining us is the way to go.
The reason we give up Fixxy is to sweeten the deal for auramite production and make it look better than a possible deal they could have with Authority. Also, so the leadership of the alliance won't have an excuse why their people who live in the same system live lives that are much much worse (living on chaos-corrupted Tom could be excused, but Fixxy cannot)
-[] Federation is willing to let the Alliance control Fixxy and Tom, but the Federation shall own every other celestial body in the Yivv system.
-[] In exchange, Alliance shall allow free passage of our missionaries in all of their territories, and if Tom faces major chaos incursion/rebelion, Alliance will transfer it to the Federation.
--[] Federation will also have observers on Tom.
-[] Alliance will also allow us to buy up to 1/3 of auramine production (without tariffs or unfair markups)
My plan is basically to shove the Federation's wealth and prosperity in the face of the Alliance population combined with missionary work and trade; it should make it clear to the Alliance's population and junior leadership that joining us is the way to go.
The reason we give up Fixxy is to sweeten the deal for auramite production and make it look better than a possible deal they could have with Authority. Also, so the leadership of the alliance won't have an excuse why their people who live in the same system live lives that are much much worse (living on chaos-corrupted Tom could be excused, but Fixxy cannot)
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
[ ] Plan: Being a Reasonable Adult
-[ ] Alright, sure, there's honestly not enough of it there to be worth this, we'll cede Yivv in its entirety. It'd be nice to have, but a few dozen-to-hundred kilos isn't remotely near enough to be worth the trouble if you need it that badly. That being said, we would like to purchase some for our own studies, and you can consider us still offering the aid as a down-payment for when extraction begins.
--[ ] We'll even offer you instruction on what you need, psychic and otherwise, because untrained Psykers are a potential tool of the Enemy and training is one of the best ways to foil them. The technology is just good sense.
---[ ] That being said, there's a lot of things our instructors could be doing as well, we'll want some concessions if you're going to get these.
----[ ] Honestly, we'd like some specifications on how your friends with the Irrita managed to get their Warp Drives so small, if it can be replicated without some horrible compromise somewhere and isn't dependent on a weird physiological quirk that can't be replicate, it could be very useful. Honestly, if we're teaching you several important things, it might be helpful to reciprocate in turn and teach our magi some of your own tricks in the process. (Basically, trade the Choir and uplift to the baseline of High Imperial to get access to any Techs they might have acquired that we don't have, including any insights from their allies if they can bargain for them. Potentially angle this to get some influence in their own academia as part of the instruction because that's a lot of dudes we'll have to send there)
Remember, the Authority is demanding 50% of the Auramite from whoever ends up holding Tom, and has hinted this is non-negotiable.
-[ ] Alright, sure, there's honestly not enough of it there to be worth this, we'll cede Yivv in its entirety. It'd be nice to have, but a few dozen-to-hundred kilos isn't remotely near enough to be worth the trouble if you need it that badly. That being said, we would like to purchase some for our own studies, and you can consider us still offering the aid as a down-payment for when extraction begins.
--[ ] We'll even offer you instruction on what you need, psychic and otherwise, because untrained Psykers are a potential tool of the Enemy and training is one of the best ways to foil them. The technology is just good sense.
---[ ] That being said, there's a lot of things our instructors could be doing as well, we'll want some concessions if you're going to get these.
----[ ] Honestly, we'd like some specifications on how your friends with the Irrita managed to get their Warp Drives so small, if it can be replicated without some horrible compromise somewhere and isn't dependent on a weird physiological quirk that can't be replicate, it could be very useful. Honestly, if we're teaching you several important things, it might be helpful to reciprocate in turn and teach our magi some of your own tricks in the process. (Basically, trade the Choir and uplift to the baseline of High Imperial to get access to any Techs they might have acquired that we don't have, including any insights from their allies if they can bargain for them. Potentially angle this to get some influence in their own academia as part of the instruction because that's a lot of dudes we'll have to send there)
Remember, the Authority is demanding 50% of the Auramite from whoever ends up holding Tom, and has hinted this is non-negotiable.
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Nah, I really don't want to fuck around with them that much. It feels like it's going too far the other way after an initially incredulous response.
@HeroCooky another question: Would samples of arumite be useful in accelerating the psytek research?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Yes, if very slowly if not done via ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT TO THE BEDROCK!!!
Only if one side takes up their offer of being backed. If not...whomp whomp.
Yes.
we could ask for 1/3
Go figure they also know about the Auramite deposits, glade we at least got over the miscommunication with the Mashan over the human population problem.
The Shipwright can have the Auramite if they need it that badly for their own tech, so long as they know how to use it and prevents them from getting screwed over by Chaos due to unreliable warp travel sure.
Still think we should follow through with helping to reconstruct damage in the Alliance's turf. Not only because our main thing is actively trying to be the good guys (and help as many people as possible), but also for the opportunity to start spreading our Faith into the Alliance's territory.
The Shipwright can have the Auramite if they need it that badly for their own tech, so long as they know how to use it and prevents them from getting screwed over by Chaos due to unreliable warp travel sure.
Still think we should follow through with helping to reconstruct damage in the Alliance's turf. Not only because our main thing is actively trying to be the good guys (and help as many people as possible), but also for the opportunity to start spreading our Faith into the Alliance's territory.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
... How much would we Need to boost our Psytech Research @HeroCooky ? A constant influx or just a modest initial lump sum?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
I...am not sure what you are trying to ask?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Braining badly I guess, basically, I'm asking "Do we need literally every scrap of Auramite that place can spit out, or as long as we get a modest sum, we should be fine with regards to reducing how many actions Psytech Foundations takes?"
How much share of the Arumite from Tom would we need to cut down on the time needed to push forward our psytek research? 1/4? 1/5? Just a initial lumpsum?
I assume that it is probably quicker with more auramite, so
100% of it: it gets cut down by 2/3
50% of it: it gets cut down by 1/2
20% of it: it gets cut down by 1/5
or something like that
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[] Plan: What are you doing with the Arumite?
-[] Shipwrights' Alliance gains Yivv
-[] in exchange for a portion of the Arumite we will loan you 20 Choirs for a century to teach your psykers a stable tradition.
--[] We'll also provide our warp travel enhancer tech in exchange for information on these Irrita Compass Needles.
-[] We will also keep the civilian aid in exchange for the right to preach in your systems.
Keeping the action spent on reconstruction and additionally asking for their tech on warp travel in exchange for our warp travel tech.
-[] Shipwrights' Alliance gains Yivv
-[] in exchange for a portion of the Arumite we will loan you 20 Choirs for a century to teach your psykers a stable tradition.
--[] We'll also provide our warp travel enhancer tech in exchange for information on these Irrita Compass Needles.
-[] We will also keep the civilian aid in exchange for the right to preach in your systems.
Keeping the action spent on reconstruction and additionally asking for their tech on warp travel in exchange for our warp travel tech.
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HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You need some access to Auramite that isn't "Only a few flakes of the stuff" to get a possible reduction.
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Twenty fucking Choirs. That's frankly 100% a nonstarter for me. 2/3rds of our free Choirs spending a century and a half under their effective control/influence. Like what the shit. I know I was outraged before, but I just reread that suggestion and holy fuck.
The thing is, we have those Choirs. We have something like 35 Choirs. We can cut down the time but we have the Choirs to use.