Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
- Thread starter HeroCooky
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Decided to go over the research list, Its getting pretty long.
God we really need to start working on our backlog, we have like 3 Research's that got unlocked by Rewards and Traits, and it feels like we might not actually be taking advantage of them because we never actually picked them up. The Karnivores unlocked directional Ion shields research for our whole force, and we never did it.
Poking the necron ship, This could either open a very long and involved tech tree of research actions that will take a lot of work with big payoffs... Or it will go horribly wrong and old men come to reclaim their property
This is an interesting tech, But tbh Both of those bonuses are hard to spare actions for lol.
This is interesting, but I'm not sure how good it is. Mines in space are a tool for essentially saping terrain, creating obstacles that forces your opponents to either eat the damage, Go around or spend time clearing the way with small escorts and fighters. I'm not sure if this makes Mines more dangerous to escorts forcing more fighters for clearing, Or justincreasing the control the mines can exert, meaning you need less mines, meaning smaller minelayers on smaller ships can shape the terrain faster.
Weird tech, Missile equipment is cool, and If we do it before any new ground stuff it could see use in Ground missles to. Bit of mystery box.
We really do want this, It feels like a shame we STILL haven't done this. It would give us more control of the Shields, More control means you can make it smaller, or cheaper, Or bigger etc etc etc. This feels like a big part of what made the Armigers a reward, and we still haven't touched it.
Wonder what this could be. Underbarrel grenade launchers? Better sights?
This will be our step past just using Hotshot Lasguns, This feels like its an important tech, if less important then the armour version
Yah, This is the most expensive, but it should happen AFTER th above to.
Second verse very similar to the first, But I actually think that this is more important then better guns, This hopefully moves us to Sororitas level armour, which is MASSIVE.
We kinda picked up that Military doctrine and unlocked this, but we never really looked at it... wonder what it does.
I would push for this more if we actually had better weapons for the karnivores to use. As is the best option we have is basically twin linked Lascannons and a reaper sword, Which isn't THAT different from just a base karnivore. Again, Feels like not having researched this might have gimped our own reward that we had picked up.
Not important until we actually fight orks again
I don't need to say it, But absolutely integral, Our entire fleet doctrine is based around Hangarcraft, and we have a bunch of ship traits, applicable to hangar craft. So better hangar craft is great.
Would be nice, But at three actions this feels way less important to all these 1 action techs that can revolutionize our military.
Not that big a deal. We have 36 FP, a destroyer is 2 FP. 2 actions for 2 FP a turn is NOTHING
Hello worse heretek trait that is already my biggest regret, 3 actions you say? Never
uggh, Talk about an action sink, but an action sink that is required to do at SOME point to better leverage out unique advantages.
God we really need to start working on our backlog, we have like 3 Research's that got unlocked by Rewards and Traits, and it feels like we might not actually be taking advantage of them because we never actually picked them up. The Karnivores unlocked directional Ion shields research for our whole force, and we never did it.
Okay, vote's open, so here's @Alectai 's plan:
[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] Operation: DRAGON TOOTH
---[X] All Readily Available Mobile Forces ready for a Smash and Grab
---[X] Any Ground Forces Command thinks we'll need
----[X] It is of the utmost importance that the Chaos Regime in Sub-Sector 621 be denied heavy infrastructure restricting our activities, and this moment when they have exhausted their mobile forces striking against the MTA is as good an opportunity as any other to disrupt their operations. The goal of Operation: DRAGON TOOTH is an aggressive raid to set Chaos Lord Ssli'sazarl's timeline back and buy any surviving defenders some breathing space. To that end, an assault on enemy Void Infrastructure and assets is authorized, as well as the denial of prisoners to their altars. Ideally through extraction, but whatever we can do, will be done. Bear in mind, this is a Raid in Force, not an attempt to occupy territory, we still have not identified the source of enemy ship production and it apparently outweighs all but our most focused efforts. Do everything within your power, but get out alive
-----[X] Assign up to 7 Celestial Choirs to key independent fleet elements, such as the Lamenters Fleet, but especially to the Chameleon-class Stealth Insertion Frigates, and offer them for their use for the operation, I'm quite confident that transhuman super heroes can make excellent use of the mobility and surprise these options allow them to cause all manner of Problems to the enemy in a guerilla campaign.
-[X] [Faith] Mausoleum of the Prophet
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] Task Force Delta: (1x Andromeda, 1x Libra-T, 1x Scorpio), Independent Operations (2x Chameleon)
So for future iteration of the Chameleon, I'd say that we put a mine layer and a medium boarding hanger if we plan on having the Lamenters use them a lot.
[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
-[X] [Military] Begin Military Operations
--[X] Operation: DRAGON TOOTH
---[X] All Readily Available Mobile Forces ready for a Smash and Grab
---[X] Any Ground Forces Command thinks we'll need
----[X] It is of the utmost importance that the Chaos Regime in Sub-Sector 621 be denied heavy infrastructure restricting our activities, and this moment when they have exhausted their mobile forces striking against the MTA is as good an opportunity as any other to disrupt their operations. The goal of Operation: DRAGON TOOTH is an aggressive raid to set Chaos Lord Ssli'sazarl's timeline back and buy any surviving defenders some breathing space. To that end, an assault on enemy Void Infrastructure and assets is authorized, as well as the denial of prisoners to their altars. Ideally through extraction, but whatever we can do, will be done. Bear in mind, this is a Raid in Force, not an attempt to occupy territory, we still have not identified the source of enemy ship production and it apparently outweighs all but our most focused efforts. Do everything within your power, but get out alive
-----[X] Assign up to 7 Celestial Choirs to key independent fleet elements, such as the Lamenters Fleet, but especially to the Chameleon-class Stealth Insertion Frigates, and offer them for their use for the operation, I'm quite confident that transhuman super heroes can make excellent use of the mobility and surprise these options allow them to cause all manner of Problems to the enemy in a guerilla campaign.
-[X] [Faith] Mausoleum of the Prophet
-[X] [Military] [Construct/Refit] Task Force Delta: (1x Andromeda, 1x Libra-T, 1x Scorpio), Independent Operations (2x Chameleon)
So for future iteration of the Chameleon, I'd say that we put a mine layer and a medium boarding hanger if we plan on having the Lamenters use them a lot.
Could be the prerequisite of something better.
Narratively speaking, automatisation without the abominable intelligence issues should be great.
For heretek trait regrets:
Remember it also gets us Mechanicus people changing sides to support us.
Like that time in the war against Neon where a fleet changed sides to us and a system started having revolutions to support us.
Also Qulachs Forge, where there was a faction split instead of everyone against us. (And then the dice decided that they should fuck up and nuke themselves over it)
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
I am confused by the Scorpio design. Isn't it pretty much Crux, but bigger? And why spend 2 DPs on boosting the 1 DP (well, 2 before discount) worth of Hangars?
I am also confused why torpedoes are such a high priority. 7 DP can buy a x12 multiplier for missile weapons which should outperform torpedoes against everything that isn't, I don't know, a battleship maybe? This could be achieved by dropping the two hangar boosts, torpedoes, and one point more of something. Even if that something was downgrading one missile to medium that's still 3x12=36 DP worth of missile firepower, so with the hangar 38 DP (before discount) total (without downgrading the missile, 50 DP). Compared to current Scorpios 3+6x3+2=23 DP. Are torpedoes over five times better than missiles somehow? And then there is the increased value of missiles the bigger their volleys are, and the combo with our primary doctrine focus which is carriers.
What am I missing?
I am also confused why torpedoes are such a high priority. 7 DP can buy a x12 multiplier for missile weapons which should outperform torpedoes against everything that isn't, I don't know, a battleship maybe? This could be achieved by dropping the two hangar boosts, torpedoes, and one point more of something. Even if that something was downgrading one missile to medium that's still 3x12=36 DP worth of missile firepower, so with the hangar 38 DP (before discount) total (without downgrading the missile, 50 DP). Compared to current Scorpios 3+6x3+2=23 DP. Are torpedoes over five times better than missiles somehow? And then there is the increased value of missiles the bigger their volleys are, and the combo with our primary doctrine focus which is carriers.
What am I missing?
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[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Oh, that? Yeah, that allows you to actually take advantage of your Military Doctrine. Because, Fun Fact; you are using the utterly basic Mechanized Vehicles of humanity, rather than anything your own. Meaning that you are using Chimeras and Salamanders. And that's it.
Torpedoes are basically Area Denial weapons. No ship wants to be hit by them, because a good salvo of 6+ of them will just outright delete a Destroyer or damaged Frigate if they all hit. So you either move, or you get to facetank shipkiller weapons. Who just give the middlefinger to shields, bypassing them completely.
Missiles, on the other hand, need to go through the enemy's AM systems, overwhelm the shields, and then continously do the chip damage to gnaw the enemy down.
And with enough fast nimble ships loaded with torpedoes area denial just becomes denial. If you can put torpedoes in all space the other side can maneuver through they have little choice but to eat lots of damage.
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
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[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
It was originally meant for inserting revolutionary agitators on hostile worlds like Voxx Primus, but a mine layer would be pretty nice to have since those could help mess up the enemy by suddenly having mines in their space.
[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
@HeroCooky just wanted to let you know that the top and bottom views of the Star Raptor in the Military Forces are broken
@HeroCooky just wanted to let you know that the top and bottom views of the Star Raptor in the Military Forces are broken
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[X] Plan: Spoke the Devil's Wheels
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Damn. I believe it was @RaptorusMaximus who made the pictures? If so, could you post them again?
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