Solarstream
It's all in the cards
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[X] Case Arquebus
Springtime of Nations II: A European Republic Quest
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tankdrop24
Tread First into Hell
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[X] Case Arquebus
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It is bad terrain because it's relatively flat, but they couldn't even exploit greater numbers even if they wanted to. Again, it comes down to a qualitative advantage, which we hold easily. Also, to rebut your comment about the 'teeth of the Austrian alps' we're going to do that no matter what we want. It's happening either way, so better do it now, with overwhelming force while our enemies are still mobilizing the bulk of their troops. Divide and conquer.
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It doesn't, you still need to occupy the place. Which, granted, can be done with lower-echelon troops, but lower-echelon troops can also hold a trench line on what will necessarily be a tertiary front in any circumstance.
Cassiemouse
Market Atheist
[X] Case Hussar
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Plus, just waiting around with plan arquebus is just asking for the Austrians to dig in, which is just an absurdly bad idea. We're resigning ourselves to a grind, plain and simple. A lite-version of WW1.
DkArthas
CAPITAL IS TO BLAME
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We must focus on liberating Russia and all the people that lie imprisoned in its grasp, most importantly the proud Polish. They are the real enemy, with stupendous amount of manpower at their disposal. Let us knock them out quickly on open terrain, we will be greeted as emancipators, and find our ranks flush with new troops!
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[X] Case Eagle
Arquebus is not just waiting around we are still taking border areas in austria, this is just fully not understanding the plan, the only one suggesting we sit around and wait on the border of one of our major enemies is eagle with russia.
Regency
PFP by vanathema (previously yubishines)
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[X] Case Arquebus
Not clearing Jutland off the board is very risky, so I'm not for the all-in gamble of Case Eagle.
Not clearing Jutland off the board is very risky, so I'm not for the all-in gamble of Case Eagle.
Case Arquebus still have the force attacking Austria attempting to take strong positions for further advances - in fact they'll advance until either a strong enough resistance stops em or they get to the end of their supply lines. The only plan that truly allows Austria to dig in is Case Hussar.
[X] Case Arquebus
Bite-and-hold. We find where they're weak now and take as much as we realistically can, then dig in for the winter. We don't want to be over-extended when the Russian army slams into us. Getting the Sudetenland, part of Tyrol, Jutland, and making the Polish border a bit easier to defend puts us into a good spot for a spring offensive at lower risk. War against Russia isn't going to be won in a single offensive.
Bite-and-hold. We find where they're weak now and take as much as we realistically can, then dig in for the winter. We don't want to be over-extended when the Russian army slams into us. Getting the Sudetenland, part of Tyrol, Jutland, and making the Polish border a bit easier to defend puts us into a good spot for a spring offensive at lower risk. War against Russia isn't going to be won in a single offensive.
DracoDracul
Transbian Communist
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[X] Case Arquebus
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[X] Case Eagle
The issue with Case Hussar is that even in the best case scenario it's not going to knock Russia out of the war. Taking polish territory is cool, but it's not going to accomplish a strategic goal imo
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[X] Case Arquebus
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It also basically writes off the fleet as scrap to crumble to scale in the bottom of the Baltic. I'd argue Arquebus does that as well, but at least it sells the fleet dearly whereas Hussar accomplishes nothing by its sacrifice.
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Case Hussar is fueled by copium over failing to intervene Poland, so it's not worth considering.
I'd also like to add that 'defensive positions' in Poland doesn't mean much, since the terrain isn't all that more favorable compared to Jutland.
I'd also like to add that 'defensive positions' in Poland doesn't mean much, since the terrain isn't all that more favorable compared to Jutland.
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The idea that Case Arquebus is "waiting around" on Austria is wholly fictitious. "Case Arquebus dedicates its resources to a broad-front advance against all three adjoining powers. The principal aims are to take Scandinavian Jutland, western Poland, and Austrian border territory, repulse any partially-mobilized military formations present, and secure strong forward positions for the coming campaigns."
We have an early advantage in mobilization, and if we let one enemy, or two in Case Eagle, go without pressure, then they will have time to get to full strength and our mobilization advantage is gone. Eagle and Hussar trade this for other priorities, but if Eagle doesn't cripple Austria immediately, we're at a bad position against Scandinavia and especially Russia. Hussar, as much as I long to free Poland, is just not a war winning plan, it actually lets Austria have time to dig in and prepare on all its fronts, and sees us advance into Russia, but not in a way that will actually cripple Russia or see it exit the war quickly (there is no such way to be clear).
Case Arquebus is the plan that most takes advantage of our strengthens and prepares us for a more protracted war.
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[X] Case Arquebus