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[X] Let the characters make in-character decisions.
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Zaealix
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[X] Let the players vote on it.
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Raichu1972
Total No. of Voters: 5

In-character decisions it is. Update will be tomorrow night.
 
Here are the results:
[X] Let the characters make in-character decisions.
-[X] Sacrifice the rebels to empower four of your daughters. (2 Points)
--[X] Arwyn
--[X] Terwyn
--[X] Gwyn
--[X] Eulyn
-[X] Future rebels will be used as ritual sacrifices. (1 Point)
-[X] Allow Seryn and your other daughters to sleep with female followers (1 Point)
-[X] All women must accept Seryn's blessing when they come of age. (1 Point)

Evatine has stomped on the slavery option with no compromise being considered while conditional blood sacrifice being allowed with potential for roll back if you devote considerable resources to it within the next couple of cycles before it gets too deeply entrenched. Also Seryn taking this opportunity to try and shove two of her personal preferences down on society and Seryn has genuine reasoning that makes sense IC for the last two option in case you are wondering.
 
Here are the results:
[X] Let the characters make in-character decisions.
-[X] Sacrifice the rebels to empower four of your daughters. (2 Points)
--[X] Arwyn
--[X] Terwyn
--[X] Gwyn
--[X] Eulyn
-[X] Future rebels will be used as ritual sacrifices. (1 Point)
-[X] Allow Seryn and your other daughters to sleep with female followers (1 Point)
-[X] All women must accept Seryn's blessing when they come of age. (1 Point)

Evatine has stomped on the slavery option with no compromise being considered while conditional blood sacrifice being allowed with potential for roll back if you devote considerable resources to it within the next couple of cycles before it gets too deeply entrenched. Also Seryn taking this opportunity to try and shove two of her personal preferences down on society and Seryn has genuine reasoning that makes sense IC for the last two option in case you are wondering.
So, you're telling me Seryn wants to sleep with people who look exactly like her?
I mean, I'm not gonna kink shame, buuuut :V
 
...The rest of the voting or the fact that it doesn't make a difference numerically aside I'd like to point out this bit of idiocy from me.

[X] Let the characters make in-character decisions.
If we pick our poisons, it'll make it easier for us to deal with it and help this thread not spawn a Spirit of Salt.
LITERALLY ARGUED FOR THE POINT OPPOSITE OF WHERE I THREW MY OWN FREAKING VOTE!
I hereby accept any and all blame for this salt fest.
 
Yikes.... these results... are gross....
I don't want Seryn to bless literally all women with her body. What the fucke.
 
So, you're telling me Seryn wants to sleep with people who look exactly like her?
I mean, I'm not gonna kink shame, buuuut :V
Yikes.... these results... are gross....
I don't want Seryn to bless literally all women with her body. What the fucke.

I should clarify that Seryn doesn't want to sleep with people with the Gift of the Mighty Body, but with her followers like Aeryn who haven't take it. Gwarlon won't know this in-universe, but Seryn's angling to get it so the concept of lesbianism associated with her position as the Goddess of Femininity so she when she blessing someone with Femininity, she can also make them like girls. That is only a stepping stone in her plans as ultimately, she wants to reverse engineer the lesbianism blessing so she can get it so she can bless people with Femininity, she can make it so they like boys. Seryn also hopes to use all of that as a stepping stone to mucking around with people's mind.

In terms of sexuality, Seryn is straight like all of your kids.

Now, if you want gross stuff, please consider that those with the Gift of the Mighty Body will no problems sleeping with each other and several already do and once you get to the whole idea of 'Second Youth' as previously discussed, you will get old lovers continuing to be lovers even after Second Youth.
 
@Oshha This is the most misinterpretable but ingenious plan ever.
But also when she blesses all the women is it w/ a basic Blessing of Femininity or a Blessing of Strong Body? The former is fine, and in fact pursuant to our gay communist utopia, the latter isn't.
 
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Welp, Seryn is back to her old habits of getting crits which cause massive headaches for Gwarlon and fires for him to put out.

At this point, I would quickly willingly argue that Seryn has caused more trouble for Gwarlon than any of the enemy spirits put together.
Well, that's the children's job for their parents!
-[X] All women must accept Seryn's blessing when they come of age. (1 Point)
That seems wasteful in terms of rejuvenation. And iffy for the genepool?
As in, literally everyone would be a biological half-sibling to everyone else within a generation
 
But also when she blesses all the women is it w/ a basic Blessing of Femininity or a Blessing of Strong Body? The former is fine, and in fact pursuant to our gay communist utopia, the latter isn't.

It is a low level blessing, but permanently so a basic mixture of Beauty and Vigour resulting in good looks and a strong, healthy body which will be stronger and tougher than average with the Femininity guaranteeing success due to being on a woman. Cat features will be optional extras as requested by the person receiving the blessing.

That seems wasteful in terms of rejuvenation. And iffy for the genepool?
As in, literally everyone would be a biological half-sibling to everyone else within a generation

Not the Gift of the Mighty Body, but a generic yet permanent blessing as described above.
 
It is a low level blessing, but permanently so a basic mixture of Beauty and Vigour resulting in good looks and a strong, healthy body which will be stronger and tougher than average with the Femininity guaranteeing success due to being on a woman. Cat features will be optional extras as requested by the person receiving the blessing.
Too bad we don't have a spirit of masculinity yet....
Should probably get on reverse-engineering her blessings so we can tailor a new one to do that for men at some point.
 
I think we are getting to the point where it seems like Seryn has more going on than Gwarlon. Any chance of straight out switching to her as the protagonist?
 
Not the Gift of the Mighty Body, but a generic yet permanent blessing as described above.
Ah, then consider concerns gone
Hopefully we get a Virility-like blessing of our own to give soon to balance things a bit.
I think we are getting to the point where it seems like Seryn has more going on than Gwarlon. Any chance of straight out switching to her as the protagonist?
She's streaked into Goddess tier, things will balance out a bit once we walk up to God tier. My impression is that we aren't THAT far away from it, we're a Leader and Father spirit and we have a God as subordinate and daughter, so our power will be rising faster than usual.

Especially with the sacrifices
 
Your argument makes sense but I feel as if this isn't really reflected in the narrative. It seems like Seryn and to a lesser extent all the other gods are busy doing interesting things while Gwarlon seems to be taking the sensible but boring route.

I am not meaning to be overly critical as I really enjoy this story. I am simply more interested in seeing either an increase in agency for Gwarlon or a full on protagonist shift.
 
He's the responsible father, and likewise our wife is the responsible mother holding everything together with Uncle Evatine...while the kids rampage, find glory and screw things up. That is rare for a spirit. Once we ascend to godhood, the responsible aspect is GOOD really.
 
Your argument makes sense but I feel as if this isn't really reflected in the narrative. It seems like Seryn and to a lesser extent all the other gods are busy doing interesting things while Gwarlon seems to be taking the sensible but boring route.

I am not meaning to be overly critical as I really enjoy this story. I am simply more interested in seeing either an increase in agency for Gwarlon or a full on protagonist shift.

I has this same impression that the narrative doesn't show Gwarlon as that good, he just kinda felt... Smaller than the other spirits? I mean, Evatine created the first mages and special blessed soldiers, the silver tips, while our wife made art and supported trade... I don't need to say anything of our daughter. But. BUT. But, but... We now have our own path to growing and doing things none of them can do, which is the main reason I keep voting for new earth experiments, I want earth to be our main Aspect while the fatherhood/chief being a cristalizing, just like Zeus was a god of the SKY, but was still the undisputed leader and father to a good portion of the divines, which is the same path we are taking. The diference being we are not traitorous perverts who do most things on a whim, so I consider that a victory :D
 
Too bad we don't have a spirit of masculinity yet....
Should probably get on reverse-engineering her blessings so we can tailor a new one to do that for men at some point.
Ah, then consider concerns gone
Hopefully we get a Virility-like blessing of our own to give soon to balance things a bit.

You could try using ascension sacrifices rituals to copy over Seryn's Aspect to Gwarlon.

I think we are getting to the point where it seems like Seryn has more going on than Gwarlon. Any chance of straight out switching to her as the protagonist?

If you can get the majority of the thread to support that idea, I would seriously consider it.

She's streaked into Goddess tier, things will balance out a bit once we walk up to God tier. My impression is that we aren't THAT far away from it, we're a Leader and Father spirit and we have a God as subordinate and daughter, so our power will be rising faster than usual.

Especially with the sacrifices

While it is true that Gwarlon is the closest spirit to godhood in the region, he is still quite far away as Seryn skipped to straight to Goddess by devouring a couple of fully fledged spirits.

Your argument makes sense but I feel as if this isn't really reflected in the narrative. It seems like Seryn and to a lesser extent all the other gods are busy doing interesting things while Gwarlon seems to be taking the sensible but boring route.

I am not meaning to be overly critical as I really enjoy this story. I am simply more interested in seeing either an increase in agency for Gwarlon or a full on protagonist shift.

I would personally argue that Evatine is taking an even more boring, but sensible route as he has been doing almost the exact he same thing for over a decade now. Gwarlon on the other hand as been actively dealing with all of the fires that setup in his territory.

As for increase in agency, I'm not sure what you are looking for there. He has plenty of agency, but sensible player actions such having good leadership, ensuring a good harvest every year and properly raising his family have resulted in a lack of internal troubles while the position of Avawyr means that any external troubles will hit one of your allies first with the stone age communication limited how quickly Gwarlon can react.

I has this same impression that the narrative doesn't show Gwarlon as that good, he just kinda felt... Smaller than the other spirits? I mean, Evatine created the first mages and special blessed soldiers, the silver tips, while our wife made art and supported trade... I don't need to say anything of our daughter. But. BUT. But, but... We now have our own path to growing and doing things none of them can do, which is the main reason I keep voting for new earth experiments, I want earth to be our main Aspect while the fatherhood/chief being a cristalizing, just like Zeus was a god of the SKY, but was still the undisputed leader and father to a good portion of the divines, which is the same path we are taking. The diference being we are not traitorous perverts who do most things on a whim, so I consider that a victory :D

Gwarlon is the leader of a stone age empire so I would argue that it is an impressive feat in itself through I can see the bigger picture so it might not be so obvious from your perspective as a player. I would also say that Bronwyn has done less than Gwarlon as all she has done is run the village before handing that over to Terwyn and Vardyn, do arts and crafts and encourage trade with Evalon and Prylake.

And yes, I do agree that Gwarlon is going to end up as being one of the better king gods out there.
 
Naah, let's stick with Gwarlon.
Seryn might be changing society but she's doing it more via her stuff just being that useful. We've a great niche in that as the boss, all we've got to do is just make sure the neighborhood gets along and nothing goes wrong.
 
You could try using ascension sacrifices rituals to copy over Seryn's Aspect to Gwarlon.
Well, aside from overall reluctance to gather enough sacrifices to do that...our wife would be annoyed if we accidentally copied Feminity wholesale :p
While it is true that Gwarlon is the closest spirit to godhood in the region, he is still quite far away as Seryn skipped to straight to Goddess by devouring a couple of fully fledged spirits.
True enough, but I think our acts of coordinating our subordinates, making sure our family doesn't fight each other, spreading good ideas across spirits, talking to our powerful daughter to attain a generally pleasing resolution, and generally making sure things are stable and prosperous are contributing piecemeal.

Though one solution is to timeskip through extended quiet periods, allowing us to build more megaprojects and gain divine chops that way. :)
 
You could try using ascension sacrifices rituals to copy over Seryn's Aspect to Gwarlon.



If you can get the majority of the thread to support that idea, I would seriously consider it.



While it is true that Gwarlon is the closest spirit to godhood in the region, he is still quite far away as Seryn skipped to straight to Goddess by devouring a couple of fully fledged spirits.



I would personally argue that Evatine is taking an even more boring, but sensible route as he has been doing almost the exact he same thing for over a decade now. Gwarlon on the other hand as been actively dealing with all of the fires that setup in his territory.

As for increase in agency, I'm not sure what you are looking for there. He has plenty of agency, but sensible player actions such having good leadership, ensuring a good harvest every year and properly raising his family have resulted in a lack of internal troubles while the position of Avawyr means that any external troubles will hit one of your allies first with the stone age communication limited how quickly Gwarlon can react.



Gwarlon is the leader of a stone age empire so I would argue that it is an impressive feat in itself through I can see the bigger picture so it might not be so obvious from your perspective as a player. I would also say that Bronwyn has done less than Gwarlon as all she has done is run the village before handing that over to Terwyn and Vardyn, do arts and crafts and encourage trade with Evalon and Prylake.

And yes, I do agree that Gwarlon is going to end up as being one of the better king gods out there.

I think the reason everyone is saying Gwarlon is boring is because we don't get the sense of uniqueness and power from Gwarlon's actions as the other spirts get. With Seryn every action is the act of a literal god, with Bronwyn she has supported trade and culture throughout the entire region. With Evatine we see someone who is technologically advanced, using iron frequently enough that it would be odd not seeing it in his village. With Gwarlon the action feels static and distant, "explorers found trouble in the Southwestern plains, we should deal with it. Ah, never mind, someone on the frontlines dealt with it." Or "What to do this turn.... inspire/bless, bless the harvest, work on wall, visit various people, stamp out new minuscule fire, experiment with stone in free time"

I think the real problem is that we're in an extended quiet period where not much is directly happening to us, maybe timeskip while until something happens and in the meantime we do whatever us the quested decide.

Edit: :ninja: Sorta by veekie
 
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You could try using ascension sacrifices rituals to copy over Seryn's Aspect to Gwarlon.
Would that actually flip the aspects to the relevant one?
I'm not very interested in Peace and Ugliness, though.

I would personally argue that Evatine is taking an even more boring, but sensible route as he has been doing almost the exact he same thing for over a decade now. Gwarlon on the other hand as been actively dealing with all of the fires that setup in his territory.

As for increase in agency, I'm not sure what you are looking for there. He has plenty of agency, but sensible player actions such having good leadership, ensuring a good harvest every year and properly raising his family have resulted in a lack of internal troubles while the position of Avawyr means that any external troubles will hit one of your allies first with the stone age communication limited how quickly Gwarlon can react.
*envies evatine's ability to ignore problems cus we're dealing with the problems*

*high-fives my steady push for high harvests*
I would also say that Bronwyn has done less than Gwarlon as all she has done is run the village before handing that over to Terwyn and Vardyn, do arts and crafts and encourage trade with Evalon and Prylake.
Building our culture is important, though! It's not fundamental like a good harvest and less infighting, but it helps store the harvest & etc., right?

Do we have granaries yet?

Though one solution is to timeskip through extended quiet periods, allowing us to build more megaprojects and gain divine chops that way. :)
I like the quiet periods, it allows space for family-convo write-ins.

I think the reason everyone is saying Gwarlon is boring is because we don't get the sense of uniqueness and power from Gwarlon's actions as the other spirts get.
We don't get the feeling of power from his actions, but I feel we still get uniqueness, insofar as we're one of the only two gods who are doing quiet stuff like steadily building, interacting with others to resolve their problems or direct others to resolve them, etc. I like it as much or more than being Seryn where all we'd do is a) fight shadow beasts to the north, b) fight the Sanger to the south, c) build a road, d) build a wall, e) bless warriors.
 
Would that actually flip the aspects to the relevant one?
I'm not very interested in Peace and Ugliness, though.


*envies evatine's ability to ignore problems cus we're dealing with the problems*

*high-fives my steady push for high harvests*

Building our culture is important, though! It's not fundamental like a good harvest and less infighting, but it helps store the harvest & etc., right?

Do we have granaries yet?


I like the quiet periods, it allows space for family-convo write-ins.


We don't get the feeling of power from his actions, but I feel we still get uniqueness, insofar as we're one of the only two gods who are doing quiet stuff like steadily building, interacting with others to resolve their problems or direct others to resolve them, etc. I like it as much or more than being Seryn where all we'd do is a) fight shadow beasts to the north, b) fight the Sanger to the south, c) build a road, d) build a wall, e) bless warriors.

We still need more earth abilities and a mage school. Say @Oshha if we build a mage school on the side of the village, not part of it but near enough so one can help the other, would the other spirits accept to send mages here to research? They wouldn't be under us, they would be training, experimenting and researching by themselves, and this could open up things that any mage can do, or things that need more than one kind of mage.
 
We already have a guy on mage school shenanigans, it's our son Cadyl. Let him be the guy to gather ALL THE MAGICS and ascend to spirthood thataway. Might give Seryn more room to pick up that Aspect of Mischief she's been eyeing.
 
We already have a guy on mage school shenanigans, it's our son Cadyl. Let him be the guy to gather ALL THE MAGICS and ascend to spirthood thataway. Might give Seryn more room to pick up that Aspect of Mischief she's been eyeing.

He will have all, but I don't mean that xD I mean, what if there is a thing that needs both an earth and a metal mage to do? Then they should cast together, but it would never be found if the mages don't interact and experiment together with other mages.
 
Well, we could just send our mages to work with other people's mages rather than setting up a mage school and convincing the other gods to send their mages to it.

I think when it's time to vote again we should learn from Myrlin and then asking Evatine if our mages could work with his to see how we can improve the metal extraction process, or something like that. From that basis of cooperation in the pursuit of knowledge we can put the effort into establishing an academy.

But first we have to deal with the sacrifices, the new spirits, etc.
 
Well, aside from overall reluctance to gather enough sacrifices to do that...our wife would be annoyed if we accidentally copied Feminity wholesale :p

You would only need about fifty or so. And if you did copy Femininity, it would have to be an intentional action as Spirit of Fatherhood would prevent it from accidentally happening. With two to three hundred sacrifices, you come overwhelm Spirit of Fatherhood with Femininity as an intentional action, gaining the latter and converting the former into Motherhood.

Would that actually flip the aspects to the relevant one?
I'm not very interested in Peace and Ugliness, though.

You would get to choose which Aspect you get between Seryn's experiments and Myrlin's knowledge of how magic works.

True enough, but I think our acts of coordinating our subordinates, making sure our family doesn't fight each other, spreading good ideas across spirits, talking to our powerful daughter to attain a generally pleasing resolution, and generally making sure things are stable and prosperous are contributing piecemeal.

While that is true, it isn't massively effective compared to Evatine focusing heavily on iron production or Bronwyn's focus on arts and trade or Isorine's obsession with fishing and water.


Though one solution is to timeskip through extended quiet periods, allowing us to build more megaprojects and gain divine chops that way. :)
I think the real problem is that we're in an extended quiet period where not much is directly happening to us, maybe timeskip while until something happens and in the meantime we do whatever us the quested decide.
I like the quiet periods, it allows space for family-convo write-ins.

I would time-skip, but there too many important events going on such as what Cadyl is up to or what Seryn is doing or what Myrlin is going to get up to.

I think the reason everyone is saying Gwarlon is boring is because we don't get the sense of uniqueness and power from Gwarlon's actions as the other spirts get. With Seryn every action is the act of a literal god, with Bronwyn she has supported trade and culture throughout the entire region. With Evatine we see someone who is technologically advanced, using iron frequently enough that it would be odd not seeing it in his village. With Gwarlon the action feels static and distant, "explorers found trouble in the Southwestern plains, we should deal with it. Ah, never mind, someone on the frontlines dealt with it." Or "What to do this turn.... inspire/bless, bless the harvest, work on wall, visit various people, stamp out new minuscule fire, experiment with stone in free time"

I think it might be a perspective thing because honestly, Evatine and Bronwyn's perspectives would be even more boring than Gwarlon's that if why you find Gwarlon's perspective to be boring.

We don't get the feeling of power from his actions, but I feel we still get uniqueness, insofar as we're one of the only two gods who are doing quiet stuff like steadily building, interacting with others to resolve their problems or direct others to resolve them, etc. I like it as much or more than being Seryn where all we'd do is a) fight shadow beasts to the north, b) fight the Sanger to the south, c) build a road, d) build a wall, e) bless warriors.

Yeah, Evatine, Gwarlon and Bronwyn are more focused on civ-building while Seryn is busying doing fun, exciting stuff. That said, Seryn would like to focus on Civ-building, but fires keep starting up at the doorstep which she then has to handle.

Building our culture is important, though! It's not fundamental like a good harvest and less infighting, but it helps store the harvest & etc., right?

Do we have granaries yet?

If you count putting the surplus harvest in pottery so it may be eaten or traded away later as granaries, then yes, you do have granaries.

We still need more earth abilities and a mage school. Say @Oshha if we build a mage school on the side of the village, not part of it but near enough so one can help the other, would the other spirits accept to send mages here to research? They wouldn't be under us, they would be training, experimenting and researching by themselves, and this could open up things that any mage can do, or things that need more than one kind of mage.
We already have a guy on mage school shenanigans, it's our son Cadyl. Let him be the guy to gather ALL THE MAGICS and ascend to spirthood thataway. Might give Seryn more room to pick up that Aspect of Mischief she's been eyeing.
He will have all, but I don't mean that xD I mean, what if there is a thing that needs both an earth and a metal mage to do? Then they should cast together, but it would never be found if the mages don't interact and experiment together with other mages.

Not quite yet, there isn't enough mages or focus on experimenting and research for a school. In fact, you don't even have schools at this point, either learning it from your experienced elder in the trade or figuring out on your own. So no, no mage school for the foreseeable future to cultural and technological restraints.

Well, we could just send our mages to work with other people's mages rather than setting up a mage school and convincing the other gods to send their mages to it.

This would work better. Get different types of mages in the same village would be viable at this point unlike a mage school.
 
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