Your argument is that
1)Someone aligned with Orochimaru, who was infamous in the manga for treating his pawns like mushrooms, would tell his assault mooks about the intricacies of his plan.
2) That Sarutobi would believe they were right, and not lying, or simply be deliberately misinformed in order to misinform Konoha.
3) Sarutobi would agree that their vision of a brighter future is in any way consistent with Konoha's vision of a brighter future.
Saying enough to jave Hisana be thoroughly, and unpleasantly, investigated, is very easy at this point. Hell, no lies needed "she knew our boss and they talked in some sort of code / secret language!" Is enough to land us in T&I.

My overall point is that presence of other SIs, some of them hostile, makes long-term concealment of Hisana's ststus as an SI unfeasible. In this situation, disclosure is the best and the safest course of action. Because if Danzo grows suspicious of us, he wouldn't balk at disappearing us for further investigation.

As to canon knowledge, I disagree. Knowledge of the setting is still very much viable and useful. Knowledge of events is useful in determining who other SIs are.
 
Saying enough to jave Hisana be thoroughly, and unpleasantly, investigated, is very easy at this point. Hell, no lies needed "she knew our boss and they talked in some sort of code / secret language!" Is enough to land us in T&I.

But... she didn't and no it isn't.

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Hell there are people that were with us that will verify the prisoner ninja are full of utter shit if the try that.
 
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@Yog, as much as I think it might be beneficial to have someone making the arguments you are if for nothing else than devil's advocate, you're really starting to go bad places with it. Like ranting places.
 
We ought to keep our nose clean and mouth shut, as we've been doing so far. If it ever gets to the point where we must admit being a SI we'll also have a decent reasoning as to why we didn't volunteer this info before. If Hiruzen is such a chill guy he will understand. If he's not, I don't want to know what he'll do to someone with our kind of knowledge in their brain.

If Danzo is a concern, we should start making friends with people who would raise a fuss if we were to ~mysteriously disappear~

Starting with our sensei. Or hell, Gai. There's a guy to trust.
 
Well, at least some of our knowledge is still usable. Things such as how certain techniques work and look (Pain's piercings come to mind), the rough appearance of most relevant characters and their most used techniques (both might change somewhat due to AU and other SI's butterflies, but things such as Gaara using sand or Konan using paper are likely to still be true, and with the exceptions of different outfits and hairstyles and at most new scars, their looks won't have changed that much from canon), and weaknesses of some characters (that transhumanist puppet guy and his single weak point in his chest).

Also, now that Naruto has used tailed beast chakra in our presence, we can point this out to him (that he used a weird chakra instinctively as a powerup, that is), and convince him to try to reproduce it/access it via meditation or whatever works for him. Which is likely to lead to him starting to communicate with Kurama way ahead of schedule, giving more time for their friendship to form.
 
Also, now that Naruto has used tailed beast chakra in our presence, we can point this out to him (that he used a weird chakra instinctively as a powerup, that is), and convince him to try to reproduce it/access it via meditation or whatever works for him. Which is likely to lead to him starting to communicate with Kurama way ahead of schedule, giving more time for their friendship to form.

I rather he wait to do that until we have a Jonin sensei at least that can watch over him in case he goes berserk.
 
If Danzo is a concern, we should start making friends with people who would raise a fuss if we were to ~mysteriously disappear~
Ie tell Hokage everything.
@Yog, as much as I think it might be beneficial to have someone making the arguments you are if for nothing else than devil's advocate, you're really starting to go bad places with it. Like ranting places.
What part of my argument is a rant? The latest updates very much indicate that I am right. The main counter-arguments against telling Sarutobi everything we know were, as I remember them (correct me if I am wrong, please):
1) Danger of the information leaking to people we don't want it to leak to, like Danzo and Orochimaru. A hostile SI was affiliated with Orochimaru. One has to assume that Orochimaru has the full and complete set of Naruto manga and databooks on his desk right now. Because if SI had any knowledge that Orochimaru lacked, or considered too vital to leak, they wouldn't have been allowed into the field. This means that Orochimaru, at least, considered what SI knew to be not worth secreting away. This means that we also have to assume Danzo, and perhaps Sarutobi, know everything.

2) The information being unreliable, hard to verify and unbelievable. Given the presence of one hostile SI allowed to operate in the world, we have to assume there are others. In this case, the correctness of our knowledge doesn't matter, as long as there are hostile shinobi operating off said knowledge. It doesn't matter if it's true. What matters is that they believe it's true. Thus, our knowledge is vital intelligence.
 
Saying enough to jave Hisana be thoroughly, and unpleasantly, investigated, is very easy at this point. Hell, no lies needed "she knew our boss and they talked in some sort of code / secret language!" Is enough to land us in T&I.
He just insulted her in another language. She didn't even reply, much less reply in the same language. And even if she did react, it will be assumed it was because she understood from his tone that he was insulting her, even if she theoretically shouldn't have been able to understand his exact words. Ignoring all of that, she is a genin candidate fresh out of killing sixteen men, a bit of erratic behaviour is expected.
 
Canon Omake: Hellfire
Hellfire

She saw it. Her wind, hitting her flames, and the blazing inferno that erupted from it, raging out of all control. The smell of cooking flesh, one that, unfortunately, she recognized. Her sword cleaving once, twice, thrice through armor, flesh, and bone, as if they were nothing but air. Fire and blood, mixing together into a litany of crimson, as screams and death rattles echoed. And when she looked up, the stench of death and scattering of corpses wasn't in Konoha's outskirts anymore. She was in the Uchiha district, and the bodies all around her belonged to her family, as she stood with her blood-red sword in her hands.

And then she woke up. It was the second time she'd had that dream, and just as the first time, her Sharingan had activated without a conscious thought. As she turned her eyes back to normal, and quietly went to fetch a glass of water, she struggled in vain to push away the memories. It didn't work - the curse of those eyes. And without being able to avoid them... all that was left was her justifications. Her justifications and her anger.

They were the ones who had attacked Konoha! She'd done nothing wrong! She had to make up for her carelessness, had to protect the people she cared about! Who were they to call her an abberation! She'd become strong, strong enough to bring their plots crashing down around their heads, and take reve-!

She very deliberately dropped that train of thought, taking deep breaths to calm herself down. The glass of water in her shaking hand helped, too. Was this the "Curse of Hatred"? She wished she could say it was, that she could blame something other than herself for her thoughts. But, in her heart of hearts... she didn't think it was. They were hers, and hers alone.

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Later that day, she stopped by Sakura's house. It wasn't something she'd planned - she went wandering around Konoha, hoping to take her mind off things, and her feet took her into the residential district. She'd never visited the other girl before, and once she made the decision, she had to ask directions several times to find the place. Sakura was understandably surprised to see her - and even more so when she thanked the pink haired girl.

"I asked Sasuke, and he said you checked me over and closed my wounds before the medics arrived. Thank you, for that."

The girl whose place she was going to take blushed a bit at the mention of the brother she'd all but adopted, but otherwise remained pensive. She could guess why. She hadn't been the only one to spill blood that night.

"I... I can't do the Mystical Palm technique. Not effectively. I waste far too much chakra when I try." It hurt, admitting that, especially to someone a small part of her still couldn't help but consider a useless fangirl. But leaving that festering wound... that would hurt more. "Could you help me? After graduation..." She trailed off, but Sakura nodded in understanding. "I'd like to be able to fix things, too."

Sakura opened the door wider.
 
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I say go with Idido to improve our chakra control, our deadlyness with our main source of offense, and to perfectly integrate it into our style.

That's what it exactly says on the vote. I think that's better than making a seal instead hold one person's chakra now hold two.
 
The Hokage is not, and never will be our friend. He's the village leader. And telling him is the same as telling Danzo. His buddy pal Danzo who gets away with all kinds of evil shit in the name of the village, why would we try to attract the attention of that on purpose?
As Orochimaru has shown, Sarutobi will not let certain activities continue if he discovers them, no matter who conducts said activities. Danzo is also very clearly not at his side 24/7, and has to hide his activities. So no, telling Hokage isn't the same as telling Danzo. And, given that there was a hostile SI affiliated with Orochimaru, we have to assume Danzo already knows everything.
 
I'm not going to be able to convince people to actually work on Iaido am I? I view it as the most immediately useful option. The chakra seal is fine for right now. It's an Oh shit button that served us well yes, but Iaido is why we survived in the first place against an ambush of a lot of ninja and killed 17 of them including the boss guy.

It needs to be made more efficient as shown in the update. If it's more efficient we wouldn't have to use our Oh shit button in the first place unless the circumstances are dire.
 
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I have to say, Sarutobi's reaction to the whole infiltration was absolutely amazing. The sheer balls of these foreign shinobi risking facing the God of Shinobi's wrath for something as nebulous as 'killing the aberration' and trying to kidnap freshly graduated academy students on his turf just made me laugh. I really like how you describe the chaos of the very brief fight before Sarutobi arrived, @Tekomandor .

Nevertheless, now to vote. I think improving our kenjutsu is much more beneficial in the one week before the team announcement. That, or our iryoujutsu. The chakra storage seal improvement can come in due time.
[x] - Kenjutsu
[x] - Work on your Iaido some more, and perfect your integration of it and your chakra flow.
 
I rather he wait to do that until we have a Jonin sensei at least that can watch over him in case he goes berserk.
Fair point. And we will get said sensei rather soon too, so I see no issue in waiting. We won't be telling Naruto until we get a Jonin to supervise, since it would be like him to try accessing that power as soon as he can once he knows about it.
 
have to say, Sarutobi's reaction to the whole infiltration was absolutely amazing.

I agree with you there. They don fucked up making the god of shinobi more alert.

Fair point. And we will get said sensei rather soon too, so I see no issue in waiting. We won't be telling Naruto until we get a Jonin to supervise, since it would be like him to try accessing that power as soon as he can once he knows about it.

Honestly, there may be a 50/50 chance he's going to try anyway even without us telling him about it unless Saratobi tells him about it and tells him not to try and use it or something.
 
Saying enough to jave Hisana be thoroughly, and unpleasantly, investigated, is very easy at this point. Hell, no lies needed "she knew our boss and they talked in some sort of code / secret language!" Is enough to land us in T&I.
1)They did not talk.
Trenchcoat cursed in English and Hisana then cut his head off.
There was no talk. Hisana did not speak a word to him.

2)The other invaders were summoned after Trenchcoat was dead, after his blood fell on the summoning array.
Mizuki was on the other side of the battlefield, fighting Naruto.
There were no witnesses to his use of English.

3)Hisana did not recognize the guy.

All three claims you made are verifiably wrong, and you can crosscheck this by rereading the update.
Even if Hisana got mindwalked, it would find her to be clean as a whistle.
At worst, it would reveal that she has some sort of prophecy that she has kept quiet; not unheard of in Naruto, and also not a crime.

And frankly, you are going to need more than the word of someone who tried to kill a bunch of Academy graduates to publicly question the word of one of the two clan heads of the Uchiha after she just rescued one of the top graduates of the current year from an attempted kidnapping.
 
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As Orochimaru has shown, Sarutobi will not let certain activities continue if he discovers them, no matter who conducts said activities. Danzo is also very clearly not at his side 24/7, and has to hide his activities. So no, telling Hokage isn't the same as telling Danzo. And, given that there was a hostile SI affiliated with Orochimaru, we have to assume Danzo already knows everything.
Except it does matter who commits crimes, and Danzo gets leeway no one else does.

Once we admit to Hokage we are a SI Danzo will know of the conversation. Assuming otherwise is folly.

What Danzo might or might not know from other SI doesn't matter until we confirm it's true. Until then it's lies and malicious slander from a suspiciously well-informed enemy of the village who's trying to sow disinformation for his nefarious needs.

And Orochimaru-affiliated SI reporting to Danzo before today is a big if.
 
Honestly, there may be a 50/50 chance he's going to try anyway even without us telling him about it unless Saratobi tells him about it and tells him not to try and use it or something.
Maybe if we frame it such as that a Jonin sensei might be able to give him a few tips or correct him while he is trying to access it? Focus on the teacher helping him get stronk rather than him needing to have someone supervising for his safety, feels like it would work better.
 
Well, it looks like Mystical Palm is losing hard. Given that, I'm going to swap my vote to Kenjutsu, as I think that's head-and-shoulders a better idea than working more on a last-ditch backup. Fundamentals improve everything, after all. Making our style more efficient will effectively give us more of a chance of having some real benefit from the extra chakra, and reduce the number of times we need to call upon it.

Being able to suddenly double our chakra becomes less effective as a back-up for every time we use it. Better to make sure we don't need to rely upon it before getting too caught up in expanding it.

[x] - Kenjutsu
[x] - Work on your Iaido some more, and perfect your integration of it and your chakra flow.
 
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