Talk to Belle, Sage and woodcarving are all considerate non-work PAs, if that help.

I want to dedicate one PA of Eggman to get back into fight shape for the tournament. Plus it is useful in Nation Actions too.
Yeah the sooner we get back into shape the less chances we have to getting jumped by a bunch of cqc heroes and more chances to get an achievement!
 
First of all Rouge will ask us to deal with Black Doom that is invading Syndicate City once we recover enough of our empire and must prepare immediately, we can't do that if we are fight against both the Restoration and the Empire. In fight is better not to fight the Empire at all too.

So the PR Campaign, the QMs explained on the discord it is possible to cast enough doubt in the younger generation to make the effects of the False Flag attacks lesser until we can investigate ourselves or hire the Chaotix in doing it for us. So it is a delay action to calm down or at least divide the Restoration public about us and Canaan has a 50/50 odds to pass the action and even a failure would do something and lower the dice too, bare failure would cut the action in half.

Also assigned a Hero to Gene Therapy is just flavor and the QMs may want to write something nice about Belle that for once is not a heartbreak interlude.

As for the Ring Reactor, it has to wait because we don't have enough Metal to work with Tier 3 Badniks anyway.
We've gone over this Soberan. Eliminating the East Europan foothold in Green Hill Zone doesn't eliminate the threat they pose. We have gone over this multiple times. As far as Max knows, the only option he has to deal with Eggman is to kill him and to do that soon. Though unfortunately for him his main option for that is gone. Eggman, when he thinks about what Max knows about him, knows that he'll be able to crush the primitive defenses of the Empire and that Max would know that too. Like Kingster said, the next time there's a show down between Metal Sonic and the Empire, the Ultimate Lifeform won't be there to save the Empire from destruction.

No, I said, lower the DC to upgrade Metal. In addition to letting us build Tier 3 Badiks, the Ring Reactor lowers the DCs by 10-15 of many fabrication actions. The actions to upgrade Metal Sonic, and Rusty Rose, would certainly count as fabrication options. They're badniks too, if we need it to build Tier 3 badiks, why wouldn't it count for the hero units? For Metal Sonic upgrades, lowering the DC by 10 gives half additional upgrade point on average. I think that's worth it even before considering all the other DC reductions.

I suppose it's fine to put Belle on the action, but I don't see the point. She's a machinist, not a physician. Also, quicker turn updates is better. :V

Well, your "public "moves so far have been: assault his camps, beat the black arms, hack their radios channels to make an announcement, fortify your new area, announce your area darcsen friendly and currently fighting Zavok's forces.

He is basically making his team work overngiht so they can finish researching the emerald so Super Selvaria can stab both Metal and You. He knows round 2 is coming soon and there won't another ultimate lifeform to bail her Valkyria out of the fight.

Won't tell you how successful he has been on that front. you will have to figure it out yoruselves.
 
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Hmm, don't we still have a broken Silver Sonic lying around? Sure, it's no Metal, but it's not exactly a slouch, and has the bonus of being much more under the radar compared to Metal…

Just found this quest and got caught up, Eggman is always a blast to read. A question for the thread though, is there a reason that there hasn't really been a push to get the Restoration onside? Considering that the Zetis basically scorched earth their whole territory that we were hoping to snag, putting other Parts of Green Hill under our umbrella without too much destruction can only be helpful.

Also, are we looking to stir the pot over at G.U.N.?
 
Hmm, don't we still have a broken Silver Sonic lying around? Sure, it's no Metal, but it's not exactly a slouch, and has the bonus of being much more under the radar compared to Metal…

Just found this quest and got caught up, Eggman is always a blast to read. A question for the thread though, is there a reason that there hasn't really been a push to get the Restoration onside? Considering that the Zetis basically scorched earth their whole territory that we were hoping to snag, putting other Parts of Green Hill under our umbrella without too much destruction can only be helpful.

Also, are we looking to stir the pot over at G.U.N.?
Firstly, the first question it's because of a lot of time restraints and mystery boxes is kind of being good/bad for us and also it's full of people who very much do not like us.

For starring up trouble for gun absolutely we just need to deal with whisper, and then we can begin our stealing into it and begin turning it over to our side.

Also for the silver sonic robot, we would have to upgrade it just a match omega so he doesn't constantly break it.


Also welcome to the thread. Before you ask about any of the crazy things you may see here I want to warn you it's gonna get crazier/j
 
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We've gone over this Soberan. Eliminating the East Europan foothold in Green Hill Zone doesn't eliminate the threat they pose. We have gone over this multiple times. As far as Max knows, the only option he has to deal with Eggman is to kill him and to do that soon. Though unfortunately for him his main option for that is gone. Eggman, when he thinks about what Max knows about him, knows that he'll be able to crush the primitive defenses of the Empire and that Max would know that too. Like Kingster said, the next time there's a show down between Metal Sonic and the Empire, the Ultimate Lifeform won't be there to save the Empire from destruction.

You are the under the impression if we kick out the foothold they will be back in 1 or 2 turns.

It's not how it works the QMs explain earlier in the thread that invade terrtiory is much more harder than expand territory.

Also the Ring Reactor mentions nothing about lowering the dice need to upgrade Metal and Rusty in the reward tab.

Edit: @Kingster can you chime in this?
 
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You are the under the impression if we kick out the foothold they will be back in 1 or 2 turns.

It's not how it works the QMs explain earlier in the thread that invade terrtiory is much more harder than expand territory.

Also the Ring Reactor mentions nothing about lowering the doce need to upgrade Metal and Rusty in the reward tab.

Edit: @Kingster can you chime in this?
No, my estimate is that they'll be back in 2-5 turns with an invasion force. We could deal with the Restoration in that time frame, but I don't consider it likely we'll have done so by then. I mean, you're still arguing that we should form an alliance with them. Max knows he has to deal with us before Neo Metal Sonic comes back, especially because Selvaria is out of the picture. That insecurity means he'll be willing to risk more. Also, Eggman is in a different condition to Zavok. We have two Power actions.

Could you, for once, focus on what I actually write rather than a strawman? I never said that the Ring Reactor action specifically said it would lower the DCs for Metal and Rusty. I said it would lower the DCs for fabrication actions and pointed to the unlocking of Tier 3 badniks as suggesting that it would also apply to Metal and Rusty, who are either badnik or part badnik. I'm fine with you asking for confirmation, but cease misrepresenting my arguments.
 
It's not how it works the QMs explain earlier in the thread that invade terrtiory is much more harder than expand territory.
Yes...and no kicking Empire of the Area do would mean they have to invade with a malus, that would also apply to you when you go to the offensive.

The malus deoends of half the fortifications of the place as well as other conditions like traits, and so.

Fo example, Shadow to invade green hills again tried to attack the restoration, he had a pretty big debuff for doing so, we will not say hiow much but it was more than -30.

On the other hand, remmebr that they pretty much would be free to try and invade each turn if they have the units to espare unless you push back, continue attacking and forcing to back off. That would requiere assigning badniks and heroes to hold off the invasion, it's not a simple tnat once they get kicked out, you guys are set. You will need to continue to fend them off until you can find a way to stop oushing either by depleting their forces, reaching a compromise or anything else
 
Hmm, don't we still have a broken Silver Sonic lying around? Sure, it's no Metal, but it's not exactly a slouch, and has the bonus of being much more under the radar compared to Metal…

Just found this quest and got caught up, Eggman is always a blast to read. A question for the thread though, is there a reason that there hasn't really been a push to get the Restoration onside? Considering that the Zetis basically scorched earth their whole territory that we were hoping to snag, putting other Parts of Green Hill under our umbrella without too much destruction can only be helpful.

Also, are we looking to stir the pot over at G.U.N.?
Early on we wanted to kind of have an alliance with Restoration because we didn't want to have to murder or imprison what are essentially the good guys because we wanted to be a kinder Eggman (partially because we don't want to upset Belle). Then the QMs said we can be better, but Restoration will have to be defeated because Eggman refuses to keep it around (and they won't accept being under us), and fighting Gouji or the Empire will not be easy without the power granted by destroying our other factions. Then we decided we wanted to focus on getting our land back from the Deadly 6 because they are more specialized against us and have a lot of our tech we can take advantage of.

I will say, GUN was fair game originally because of what they did to Maria and Gerald, but with the alliance we might want to wait that out. So I see us taking Restoration after we retake our land and MAYBE deal with the two hidden factions.
 
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Here's another completely random thought: the different version of Eggman (and Sonic) are probably screwing with some peoples' heads

Like imagine how weirded out Sonia and Manik would be upon learning that the first thing that Eggman did publicly to announce his return was sing a song when their version of Robotnik hates everything about music

Also if the first time they see Sonic, the version at the helm is one that's just kind of mid on chilli dogs
 
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Here's another completely random thought: the different cersion of Eggman (and Sonic) are probably screwing with some peoples' heads
See, I like to think that Sonic's just holed up in a cave somewhere suffering a psychotic breakdown, since there's nobody there to force his brain back into shape like Starline did Eggman.

Unless he happens to be sharing said cave with that stupid aardvark from Sonic Underground, I guess.
 
Early on we wanted to kind of have an alliance with Restoration because we didn't want to have to murder or imprison what are essentially the good guys because we wanted to be a kinder Eggman (partially because we don't want to upset Belle). Then the QMs said we can be better, but Restoration will have to be defeated because Eggman refuses to keep it around (and they won't accept being under us), and fighting Gouji or the Empire will not be easy without the power granted by destroying our other factions. Then we decided we wanted to focus on getting our land back from the Deadly 6 because they are more specialized against us and have a lot of our tech we can take advantage of.

I will say, GUN was fair game originally because of what they did to Maria and Gerald, but with the alliance we might want to wait that out. So I see us taking Restoration after we retake our land and MAYBE deal with the two hidden factions.

There's the Empire too in the equation too.

The idea was once we reclaim our territory we focus on the Empire's foothold and maybe get a Metal Selvaria from the whole deal, after all the Empire is here for two objective mining ragnite to power they superpower, that we don't know anything about it, and loot advanced technology while grabing some land as secondary objective.

Sure kicking them out of Greem Hills will not stop they attacks unless a cease fire is agreed but at least they will have to invade with a heavy mallus in the Contest Power rolls in our favor instead of let them free to exoand with bo mallus.

However Rouge enters in the picture. According to QMs she will expect us to interven in the Synadicate City once we reclaim enough terrtiory and expect we start preparing right away for it.

So we probably should not get into a fight with anybody beyond the necessary to gather our forces and luckly next turn we can make a recall signal for all the badniks left leaderless once Zavok leave for parts unknow.

Clutch, that we believe is one of the hidden faction leaders, make things complicate as he recently orchestrate a False Flag attack and blame on us, for some reason, that get most of the Restoration citzenry believe we are responsible will start to put pressure on the Restoration to fight us. Even though people that know Eggman MO don't believe that for one second.

So Hidden Factions are dangerous in they own righ since they will try to manipulate public factions to suit they own goals.

So the idea here is to claim much terrtiory as possible, send Starline to occupy the former stornghold of Zavok thus unlocking the second action there, and maybe start a PR Campaign to divide the Restoration citzenry opinion of us to lower the calls of war against us or start start to form cracks among the civilians, something that Clutch will not expecting from our part and may mess with his plans somewhat.

While we prepare our forces to interven in Syndicate City and maybe call GUN in the fight since we do hsve a temporary alliance with them and all collbas against Black Arms has a +10.
 
That checks out, but it's something I think we should deal with sooner than later. No need to leave a hostile faction in our backyard for our foes to take advantage of. Thanks to the Pronghorns, we have the start of a carrot. They're already quite familiar with our stick.

Personally, I'm not sold on participating in Breezie's Brawl at the moment. Money is nice, and so is biodata, but that Grand Prize is pretty ambiguous. Staying out of it still gains us intel on strong fighters (those working for other factions or freelancers we could hire) while still keeping our profile low. Still, until we know more, upgrading Metal and/or Rusty still helps in the long run, even if skip the tournament.

I am interested in freeing the SU Siblings as it gives us more of a carrot for dealing with The Restoration, as well as a possible advantage in any future Sonic encounter. It'll also confuse the hell out of our enemies, and that's always a fun thing to do.

I also want to rebuild the E-series, but I'm curious if that's just the E-100s, or a bunch of the lower and higher model numbers.
 
The Scrapniks will start looking into and messing with the Vortex

... Oh no. Um. That might get them killed. We might wanna find them on the faster end of things...

Personally, I'm not sold on participating in Breezie's Brawl at the moment. Money is nice, and so is biodata, but that Grand Prize is pretty ambiguous. Staying out of it still gains us intel on strong fighters (those working for other factions or freelancers we could hire) while still keeping our profile low. Still, until we know more, upgrading Metal and/or Rusty still helps in the long run, even if skip the tournament.

I posted on this back on page 960. If we go, ideally we use this as a networking opportunity and a heist as much as we do a chance to acquire bio-data. Winning the tournament is nice, but not the goal, and actually fighting Dural is to be avoided.
 
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