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Scrambled Eggs. A Sonic X Sega All Star Villains CK2 Quest

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Black.Horus said:
Again. With Metal, at least, TRY. If he declines, then that's that. With Piastol, if she is THAT Hyper Focused on the acts and effects on piracy even after resolving her misunderstanding, she would hate US too. If she can't differentiate a country raiding/attacking the country of another with simple banditry, then she's not worth recruiting.
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Piastol does understand that, if not she would a bone to pick with Valua as well osmehting she don't have ni the games even after the Vluan Empire is hunting her. Working for Eggman is just business for her.

Notice Captain Metal can't be recruited and only collab because he will never again submit himself to anyone, not even Eggman. He will collab with Eggman because he don't want the doctor go after him but not to the point he will surrender his freedom.
 
Tbh if we really want marine units, we could go and recreate both Jonnhy and Captain Whiskers.

Alongside the Ghost Fleet.

We could totally BS Piastol on those that it is to infiltrate marine pirates.
 
Aron593 said:
Tbh if we really want marine units, we could go and recreate both Jonnhy and Captain Whiskers.

Alongside the Ghost Fleet.

We could totally BS Piastol on those that it is to infiltrate marine pirates.
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C'mom man Hero Units aren't stupid and you would still be recruiting pirates the difference being they would work for you and that is even worse than endorse piracy with Captain Metal.
 
Soberan 123 said:
Piastol does understand that, if not she would a bone to pick with Valua as well osmehting she don't have ni the games even after the Vluan Empire is hunting her. Working for Eggman is just business for her.

Notice Captain Metal can't be recruited and only collab because he will never again submit himself to anyone, not even Eggman. He will collab with Eggman because he don't want the doctor go after him but not to the point he will surrender his freedom.
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From what I understand here, is that you are saying it's pointless. Just don't try and accept their character is static. From what you don't understand, I don't care, let's try at least ONCE to improve Piastol Character to the point she won't mind us working with Captain.

For the other, I guess I need to word it a bit differently, I want a working relationship with all Eggman's creations, or if not that then non-hostile, including Captain, and again, AT LEAST ASK ONCE, don't care whether it's as one of our Hero Unit, an Allied Faction, or just having a non-aggression deal being made, as long as we TRIED. Even if you know the answer to it, the least you could do is having the decency to at least try and reconnect, not just make assumptions about it.
 
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So……… once we grab Nep what kind of traits do you think she has? like after we have a much better chunk of our empire back along with a good flow of metal and we're no longer juggling actions and drives.

Because I can see her having a trait of something related to her belief that Eggman can never be defeated"
 
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Black.Horus said:
From what I understand here, is that you are saying it's pointless. Just don't try and accept their character is static. From what you don't understand, I don't care, let's try at least ONCE to improve Piastol Character to the point she won't mind us working with Captain.
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Listen man you don't need to be rude about it I was trying to explain why Piastol would not like Captain Metal and why that Metal Sonic would not work for the doctor.

Pisatol would need to have a lot of a character development to not try to lop Captain Metal head off, one of the QMs did say she's willing to totlare speaking with him if Eggman was willing to destroy them soon after.

Boohoo the 3rd said:
As a Co-QM, I can cut in to say if you grab Piastol and then go talk to Captain Metal, it's not like she'll just leave instantly, that wouldn't be fair.
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Yeah just expect her to be extremely unhappy about it and loss a little loyalty points on the way.

catxfighter_3_1 said:
Oh well, that's good. It's always nice to have someone that doesn't really want anything from us.
(it's kind of sad once you think about it though)
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She mostly work for Eggman to keep the bloodshed to a minimum.

In her view either he conquers the world or destroy it. Considering Eggman tendency to escalate after a loss is not unreasonable to think that, at least in Post-SGW the shattering of the planet was something of a natural disaster, as far she's aware, in Games/IDW he actually caused it by poking Dark Gaia to awaken and manage to kidnaps several planets to construct a amusement park and enslave a alien species to his will in Colors.
 
Soberan 123 said:
Listen man you don't need to be rude about it I was trying to explain why Piastol would not like Captain Metal and why that Metal Sonic would not work for the doctor.

Pisatol would need to have a lot of a character development to not try to lop Captain Metal head off, one of the QMs did say she's willing to totlare speaking with him if Eggman was willing to destroy them soon after.
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I am being rude because I don't know how else to convey to you my intentions, because I kept on repeating myself all I wanted for us is to just try, even once, and find or develop ways around it like trying to change Piastol's view, and yet you over and over again just said that it's useless and just don't try it, she will hate Metal either way no matter what we do. How else can I interpret your words beside you either somehow not understanding my main point of contention or you treat my words as if they were mere wind? So be blunt it is.
 
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TBH my problem mostly comes from people wanting to reach to other factions this early.

As some mentioned before, we kinda don't have a lot of bargaining chips.

And like hell revealing the location of one of the 7 chaos emeralds to anyone is a good idea at the moment.

Like most of our units at the moment only kinda work to smash and grab stuff.

I mentioned before I am not againts reaching to captain metal, but is too early right now to be worth the effort.

Also shattered memories, but that is going to always be againts me when thinking of interacting with archie related stuff
 
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Aron593 said:
TBH my problem mostly comes from people wanting to reach to other factions this early.

As some mentioned before, we kinda don't have a lot of bargaining chips.

And like hell revealing the location of one of the 7 chaos emeralds to anyone is a good idea at the moment.

Like most of our units at the moment only kinda work to smash and grab stuff.

I mentioned before I am not againts reaching to captain metal, but is too early right now to be worth the effort.
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….. yeah I kinda agree with this now, but I think about it. It's kind of a little bit too early to try to reach with anybody. We only have one percent of our territory back. Shadows looking for us and the chaos emerald we currently have so…. We need to deal with that. Along with clove sister and the stasis unit we deal with the whole shadow situation

We also need to fulfill our drive. Either to hit the zetti or search for sonic
 
Aron593 said:
TBH my problem mostly comes from people wanting to reach to other factions this early.

As some mentioned before, we kinda don't have a lot of bargaining chips.

And like hell revealing the location of one of the 7 chaos emeralds to anyone is a good idea at the moment.

Like most of our units at the moment only kinda work to smash and grab stuff.

I mentioned before I am not againts reaching to captain metal, but is too early right now to be worth the effort.

Also shattered memories, but that is going to always be againts me when thinking of interacting with archie related stuff
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I can agree with that, yeah. Once we got some factories running would be the perfect time to build alliences.
 
Thinking more about it, Piastol would be pivotal in the battle againts the zeti too because of one person in specific.

That being Zor, due to his mystic nature, all zeti by nature are strong, but this guy can prrobably combine his mystic score with his power score and maybe do trickery rolls on the middle of the battle.

So far here are my guesses of each deadly 6 sheets in respect to their own abilities

Zavok Power/Brain with a little bit of logistics
Master Zik Power/Logistics with a little bit of brain
Zazz Pure Power with probably a trait to deal more damage or having a buff to power actions the more pissed off he is
Zeena Power/Trickery with probably a malus to her stats to any action that she isn't fully dedicated to
Zomom Pure power with a trait that probably lets his resist more in battle
Zor Power/Mystic with also some trickery.

Now you see why I want to recruit more people to deal with these guys too, they won't be playing around when we deal with them as probably most of them have power on the ranges from 20 to 30.
 
Aron593 said:
Thinking more about it, Piastol would be pivotal in the battle againts the zeti too because of one person in specific.

That being Zor, due to his mystic nature, all zeti by nature are strong, but this guy can prrobably combine his mystic score with his power score and maybe do trickery rolls on the middle of the battle.

So far here are my guesses of each deadly 6 sheets in respect to their own abilities

Zavok Power/Brain with a little bit of logistics
Master Zik Power/Logistics with a little bit of brain
Zazz Pure Power with probably a trait to deal more damage or having a buff to power actions the more pissed off he is
Zeena Power/Trickery with probably a malus to her stats to any action that she isn't fully dedicated to
Zomom Pure power with a trait that probably lets his resist more in battle
Zor Power/Mystic with also some trickery.

Now you see why I want to recruit more people to deal with these guys too, they won't be playing around when we deal with them as probably most of them have power on the ranges from 20 to 30.
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We probably don't have to worry for Zomzom for a while since healing after the battle with the Empire. Which is good.
 
catxfighter_3_1 said:
….. yeah I kinda agree with this now, but I think about it. It's kind of a little bit too early to try to reach with anybody. We only have one percent of our territory back. Shadows looking for us and the chaos emerald we currently have so…. We need to deal with that. Along with clove sister and the stasis unit we deal with the whole shadow situation

We also need to fulfill our drive. Either to hit the zetti or search for sonic
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Best search for Sonic, Eggman Trickery stats can autopass the first phase less it net up a 1 Nat.

Aron593 said:
TBH my problem mostly comes from people wanting to reach to other factions this early.

As some mentioned before, we kinda don't have a lot of bargaining chips.

And like hell revealing the location of one of the 7 chaos emeralds to anyone is a good idea at the moment.

Like most of our units at the moment only kinda work to smash and grab stuff.

I mentioned before I am not againts reaching to captain metal, but is too early right now to be worth the effort.

Also shattered memories, but that is going to always be againts me when thinking of interacting with archie related stuff
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Yeah it would be better to wait until we reclaim our stuff before looking for alliances.

Aron593 said:
Zavok Power/Brain with a little bit of logistics
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Zavok should be a Power/Heart because the guy is no genius but he know how to jungle the Deadly Six strong personalities to stay united and get them to do stuff. Even manage to convince Starline of worthiness of allies and strike on his own instead of trying to follow Eggman around.

Aron593 said:
Master Zik Power/Logistics with a little bit of brain
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Master Zik should be a Logistic/Brain hero, because of his long life and be the original creator of the Deadly Six but he's not as strong as the others but still powerful in his own right. The other listen to him for his wisdom and consider Zavok his apprentice.
 
Soberan 123 said:
You know I can see what happened here.

Metal Sonic no doubt took his time taking care of the guards, because he is a sadistic bastard. Also maybe scare the prisoners just for giggles as well.
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I can only imagine the mood whiplash the Moebian prisoners had. When they first saw a blue blur beating the shit out of the guards their immediate thought would be it's the actual Sonic.
 
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