1- I've been repeatedly suspended for applying philosophical ethics in a thread and shouted at (metaphorically) in PMAS. If I were to cite philosophical ethics the mods would do the same to me here.
PMAS doesn't matter one whit here.
Here, you are the
only one complaining about using ethical and moral arguments. You find me a statement by Higure in this thread that ethical arguments are off-limits, or a statement in the forum rules saying likewise, or quit your damn bitching.
It's unfair for the same standard not to be consistently applied
If you're friends with two different people, and one of them has a rule that in their house, you must keep your shoes on, and the other has a rule that in
their house, you cannot keep your shoes on, what do you do?
2- I think you're being pessimistic here. Sayaka's pig-headed, but she has enough social awareness to know that would be a bad idea (particularly if we tell her). We can argue that doing that would open an old wound for Kyoko to be safe. If you want to be EXTRA safe, we can make Sayaka promise not to tell Kyoko we told her before talking.
Possibly; I'd prefer to stay cautious. If necessary, we can let Sayaka know that something about Kyouko's situation is off and that she shouldn't push her too hard, but we
don't tell her any specifics without Kyouko's permission. And again, doing so goes into the whole "How does Homura know these things about a perfect stranger?"
i- Sayaka can't be emotionally devastated because she isn't a Magical Girl.
... Emotions don't exist for normal people? That's what you're saying here. What you might mean is that Sayaka won't turn into a Witch as a result of Grief Spiraling ... but I'm pretty sure she'd still be freaked out about the situation.
ii- The prejudice argument doesn't work. Although it may change how Sayaka views us, if we portray ourselves as dedicated to making sure no more 'monsters' like us come about it and give a sob story about Kyubey tricking us Sayaka will probably be fine with being our ally.
Prejudice argument? I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here ... or which point of mine you're trying to reply to. The biggest issue I can see with this line of thought, though, is that Homura isn't necessarily dedicated to that, and if she doesn't seem to match Sayaka's standards for what she says, it's likely to create a problem.
iii- Sayaka's sheer horror at the LichBomb will be such she definitely will NOT want Madoka contracting. This means we can rely on her for that bit and are freed up to act elsewhere.
Maybe, maybe not. Sayaka doesn't have our skills and abilities, and until we know what she
can do, I'm not sure we can say "we can rely on her." I wouldn't put it past Kyubey to be with Madoka and Sayaka when a Witch shows up and try to get Madoka to contract if it looks like Sayaka is going to be hurt.
4- That was a different context. If Miki's mother overheard she'd just be confused, and Sayaka could pass it off as something else. It's another level entirely to go up to Kyoko directly.
Just posting what I thought he was referring to.
-We can always resort to the lie that we didn't know about the WitchBomb.
We shouldn't, though - if Sayaka finds out that we did know, her trust for us takes a hit. If we let her know that there are things we don't want her to know because of how dangerous it could be, at least we're telling her that there
are things we're not telling her, and that we've thought about it and come to a decision that isn't just "I didn't want you to know."
-That leaves the Time Loops. Because we're not stupid, it's going to be extremely hard for this to let slip. If Kyubey tries we can simply say he's lying.
Except that makes our relationship with everyone suspect. One of the major facets of Kyubey's actions and behavior is that he
doesn't lie. Period. If we claim he's lying, we would need to have an absolutely perfect reason for knowing everything we do, one that can be proven via outside information. Kyubey might not always tell everything, and he leaves things out, but he doesn't directly lie, and claiming he does is going to hurt us.
No. No Incubator behavior.
