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Renascence: A Homura Quest

Honorifics or Western-style Titles? I've used both before, which is bothersomely inconsistent

  • Japanese Honorifics (-san, -sama, -dono, -chan, -kun, -senpai, etcetera)

    Votes: 12 33.3%

  • Western Titles (Mister, Miss, job titles, Lord, Lady, etcetera)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Use whichever works better for a given sentence.

    Votes: 24 66.7%
  • Total voters
    36
  • Poll closed .
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Higure said:
Fate/Stay Night isn't available in this Madoverse.
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Fate/stay night was available in a previous Madoverse that Homura (the player character) visited.

Homura (the player character) read/watched/played Fate/stay night in that Madoverse.

And now unrelated to the above Blue Truths:

The attacker that is not Sesshomaru is Berserker (AKA Heracles) from Fate/stay night, or is at least identical in terms of skill and ability.

Berserker is a Servant, therefore he has a Master, as per the standard Fate/stay night definition of the terms 'Servant' and 'Master'.
 
This is probably pushing our luck, but I'll ask anyways.
Less instantaneous force is required to overcome Herakles' God Hand (or any other form of passive damage resistance he possesses) than was required to overcome Sachiel's AT Field.

Also, it's worth noting that since we aren't inside a Witch Barrier, Starlight Breaker is a valid tactic.
 
Higure said:
@Highwind
The Beast that tried to bite Sayaka is indeed Sesshomaru.

I will not answer regarding whether he can be reasoned with at this time.


Fate/Stay Night isn't available in this Madoverse.
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Well, that's good! That means he has his humanoid form and enough intellect to hold a conversation! And is not a Witch taking the form of an enemy from another anime like Sachiel was.

Now, if only I could remember his motivations aside from getting the Tessaiga...

Entropy Judge said:
After we do something to keep Nanoha from exploding several city blocks, anyway.
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I'd say a few city blocks are a worthy trade-off if it manage to kill Herakles at least a few times over. We have literally no weapons or techniques that can reliably take one of his lives besides Tiro Finale and Starlight Breaker. If he does have God Hand, then he outright no-sells attacks below a certain level of Mystery/Lethality.
 
Highwind said:
I'd say a few city blocks are a worthy trade-off if it manage to kill Herakles at least a few times over. We have literally no weapons or techniques that can reliably take one of his lives besides Tiro Finale and Starlight Breaker. If he does have God Hand, then he outright no-sells attacks below a certain level of Mystery/Lethality.
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Ehh, the regular spells that Medea Beam Spams with are A rank (minimum required to hurt Berserker) spells that are just pure energy with no added effects, and Divine Buster is way larger than those, so it should work too.

A full power Starlight Breaker would be completely disintegrate his entire body in one shot, down to the very last atom, so that there's no base for God Hand to start the regeneration from.

God Hand heals and revives a corpse, but it can't do anything if there's no corpse left behind. Full Power Total Annihilation indeed!
 
@Crow
Homura has no clue. You can guess it isn't tremendously low, considering Homura is still alive.

justinkal said:
Ehh, the regular spells that Medea Beam Spams with are A rank (minimum required to hurt Berserker) spells that are just pure energy with no added effects, and Divine Buster is way larger than those, so it should work too.
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I won't say one way or the other about Divine Buster's effectiveness, but I will say that size matters not, in terms of overcoming defenses. Energy blast Power isn't that easy to judge, much less magical attacks.
 
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LostDeviljho said:
Yes, it can. God Hand be bullshit.
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We don't really have any canon evidence to support either answer, since the only thing that ever completely destroyed his entire body in one shot was getting eaten by the shadow in HF.........

I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to say that a "curse of resurrection" will fizzle out if there isn't anything available to resurrect.

Regardless, that's definitely the kind of thing that would deplete multiple lives at once.
 
Higure said:
@Crow
Homura has no clue. You can guess it isn't tremendously low, considering Homura is still alive.


I won't say one way or the other about Divine Buster's effectiveness, but I will say that size matters not, in terms of overcoming defenses. Energy blast Power isn't that easy to judge, much less magical attacks.
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Umu.

So what do you say guys? should I add the ego boost?
 
justinkal said:
We don't really have any canon evidence to support either answer, since the only thing that ever completely destroyed his entire body in one shot was getting eaten by the shadow in HF.........

I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption to say that a "curse of resurrection" will fizzle out if there isn't anything available to resurrect.
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Quoting wiki, because I don't have the video on-hand, but it says that (citing UBW Episode 3) its Resurrection clause is less healing and more akin to the Time-Reversal effect that Vampiric regeneration uses. If so, lack of a body doesn't necessarily mean it'll fizzle. :shrug:
 
So, considering that 'Berserker' seemed to have moved in time stop, and Herc is capable of moving at 'godspeed' which is faster then normal humans can comprehend last I checked, I have to ask these blue truths

The beast attacking Homura and company with Sesshomaru can keep fighting even if Homura Stops Time.

If the beast can fight through Homura's Time Stop, it has to expend additional energy, Mana, and/or any other sources of power that it may be drawing from.
 
...Guys I just remembered something. Even with Mad Enhancement of the highest degree, Berserker is able to see Illya as a sort of daughter figure; his main motivation is to protect her, to the point where even after dying twelve times he broke chains that should have been indestructible for someone like him just to get another swing at somebody hellbent on killing her.

Tl;dr If he sees Sesshomaru more-or-less the same way, we're about to have a bad time
 
Sk8torchic said:
...Guys I just remembered something. Even with Mad Enhancement of the highest degree, Berserker is able to see Illya as a sort of daughter figure; his main motivation is to protect her, to the point where even after dying twelve times he broke chains that should have been indestructible for someone like him just to get another swing at somebody hellbent on killing her.

Tl;dr If he sees Sesshomaru more-or-less the same way, we're about to have a bad time
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This is the main reason I threw out my Blue Truths. When Herc wants to protect someone he truly cares about, he basically goes "Screw your rules, I'm a Determinator"

This is a BAD thing for Homura.

Edit: Further more, Hercules was still able to recognize Illya as his Master and someone he wanted to protect in the Heaven's Feel route after being blinded, ripped to pieces, and corrupted by Angra Mainyu's curses.
 
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[x] Crow

As good of a plan as any, I guess.

Now, if only I could get through my block for the next part of the Mitakihara Holy Grail War...
 
AzureGhidorah said:
So, considering that 'Berserker' seemed to have moved in time stop, and Herc is capable of moving at 'godspeed' which is faster then normal humans can comprehend last I checked, I have to ask these blue truths

The beast attacking Homura and company with Sesshomaru can keep fighting even if Homura Stops Time.

If the beast can fight through Homura's Time Stop, it has to expend additional energy, Mana, and/or any other sources of power that it may be drawing from.
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Sorry, I won't answer that at this time.

justinkal said:
This is probably pushing our luck, but I'll ask anyways.
Less instantaneous force is required to overcome Herakles' God Hand (or any other form of passive damage resistance he possesses) than was required to overcome Sachiel's AT Field.

Also, it's worth noting that since we aren't inside a Witch Barrier, Starlight Breaker is a valid tactic.
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Sachiel's AT Field could not be overcome with simple force. Herakles' god hand can be.
 
Damn. Was hoping to get a solid confirmation one way or another. Well, Higure has his reasons.

Reasons which probably include "don't make plans with knowledge Homura couldn't possibly attain on her own before its revealed."
 
AzureGhidorah said:
Damn. Was hoping to get a solid confirmation one way or another. Well, Higure has his reasons.

Reasons which probably include "don't make plans with knowledge Homura couldn't possibly attain on her own before its revealed."
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I rather doubt that Herakles can move in Homura's Time Stop; I think it's just an artifact of the way we're hovering around ~100 San, which is low enough that we're actively hallucinating.

The worst thing is we have to see Madoka sometime today, otherwise she'll contract; IIRC it's to save a dying kitten. Wonder what that reunion is going to be like, while we're still hallucinating about "our" Madoka.
 
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