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Project Prometheus (Original Setting Superhero Quest)

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Wing101r said:
Hopefully BS can point out Noras evil twin.
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Those memories you've seen... they're not her! They're not Nora!

They're Nora from an alternate timeline that was erased by the 11th Hour! And she's the only survivor because she fled to an extradimension realm known as the stage! Well Augur survived too but we don't know how!

You have to believe me, it's not Nora you've seen, well it is, but it's her evil twin!

-A collection of statements that will undoubtedly be utterly trusted and believed by Silvio.

(This is an absurd justification/explanation and it is hard to imagine it being anything but laughed off. But I guess Mona is Mona, and I shouldn't put anything past her...)
 
TBF VS still sacrificed her life to stop the Movement and left Prometheus for anyone in JU who survived.

Thats completely insconsistent with a person who genuinely didnt care about otehr like LiB seemed to be until she fucked up so badly she went to alternate universe.

Not to mention Towarri knows Uirra couped VS to stop her from killing herself. So tahts another problem with Uirra message to Javier since as we pointed out before Yazmin would have just gotten everyone to stop Nora if she actually knew she was fucking around with something that can destroy the world.
 
spiderhellian said:
Those memories you've seen... they're not her! They're not Nora!

They're Nora from an alternate timeline that was erased by the 11th Hour! And she's the only survivor because she fled to an extradimension realm known as the stage! Well Augur survived too but we don't know how!

You have to believe me, it's not Nora you've seen, well it is, but it's her evil twin!

-A collection of statements that will undoubtedly be utterly trusted and believed by Silvio.

(This is an absurd justification/explanation and it is hard to imagine it being anything but laughed off. But I guess Mona is Mona, and I shouldn't put anything past her...)
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Silvio is gonna have like 0.5 REP after that last bit.

I believe in the dice.
 
Alright Alright, I'm looking over the powers and I'm liking the look of:

Adamant (3) Daggermaw (1) Soldier X (1) for our old man. Autobiokinesis 2x Enhanced Strength and 1x Enhanced Senses

Martial Arts involves a great mastery of the body and knowledge of its limits. Where Handyman has a tool for any occasion, Mr Song here is likely to be less whimsical and more . . pragmatic with his Autobiokinesis. I think that's a fun contrast, especially because they can probably train eachother in a variety of ways.

While Handyman is potency 9 (crazy shapeshifting potential) even potency 5 Autobiokinesis on someone so absolutely aware of their own body is probably deadly. An excellent sparring partner+trainer for the team, and just an overall survivable kind of build. Believably a vigilante turning official after everyone felt Red Iustitia's Court is a good cover story. Not a major player, but someone that can absolutely get a lot of work done.

Hell, he ran his own studio so at minimum he can help fight the mountain that is our accounting (lol).

My guess would be something like he's stuck with humanoid Autobiokinesis for the most part (unlike Handyman that can turn into gliders or ballistae) but he's more explosive in melee with his additional Str tag, Enhanced Senses and of course his life of martial artistry.

Actually looking backwards it's basically Handyman's starter set - The Outsider. It's interesting that Handyman ended up with just the 2 tags (Autobiokinesis and Str+) out of it. The absolute crazy degree of his Autobiokinesis must be where the rest of everything went.

EDIT: Also it'll make Miss Naught happy! Hehe
 
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Add Mr Hunch for battle Precog it works way to well with a Martial Artist.

But yeh Autobiokinesis+Battle Precog is my Stance for Song. A strong Body and shark skills especially with how Wulong could burn his brain out with using his Precog powers, a Regen Component should make it easier for Song to use BP.

For Handyman his Autobiokinesis is mainly Adamant giving mass and Outsider letting him shape his body. With Strenght being a combination of adamants and daggermaw.

Song would either gain a Regen focus to regain his youth and heal in combat or some sort of Were form like adamants.
 
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If he can have more than 5 sure Hunch is a decent add. I think I might prefer Millions Minefield though, potentially a Kinetic Energy Redirector .

Kinetic Energy Redirection is an explicit aim of Tai Chi for Self-Defense, and while it's not a known synergy like Battle Precog would be I think it'd be more cool from a flavor perspective to give him metaphysical potency to the philosophy of Tai Chi's self-defense forms.

It's also really good as a durability enhancer? Is it better than being a Battle Precog? Ehh maybe not. But it's really cool to redirect Kinetic Energy!

Thinking something like being able to sculpt himself slowly over time for disguises, but in combat relying on extra ability to yield and reach due to Autobiokinesis. Super Self-defense Tai Chi. Further reach/strength due to Kinetic Redirection in combat. A rubber-style Autobiokinesis build.

So he has a much lower utility than Handyman retaining some body sculpting but being limited to humanoid form. Combat having a more rubber aesthetic. A very dangerous regenerating martial artist with the knowledge to make the most out of lengthening reach, bending redirections, and explosive strikes.
 
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He can get FFM on the Battle Precog + TK build if we use the last 2 potency for Crimson Soprano. If that works out to something like inertia, gravity, or even friction manipulation that could be pretty good for a close in fighter, although Crimson Soprano is admittedly a more blasty sort of sample.
 
JowKeen said:
If he can have more than 5 sure Hunch is a decent add. I think I might prefer Millions Minefield though, potentially a Kinetic Energy Redirector .

Kinetic Energy Redirection is an explicit aim of Tai Chi for Self-Defense, and while it's not a known synergy like Battle Precog would be I think it'd be more cool from a flavor perspective to give him metaphysical potency to the philosophy of Tai Chi's self-defense forms.

It's also really good as a durability enhancer? Is it better than being a Battle Precog? Ehh maybe not. But it's really cool to redirect Kinetic Energy!

Thinking something like being able to sculpt himself slowly over time for disguises, but in combat relying on extra ability to yield and reach due to Autobiokinesis. Super Self-defense Tai Chi. Further reach/strength due to Kinetic Redirection in combat. A rubber-style Autobiokinesis build.

So he has a much lower utility than Handyman retaining some body sculpting but being limited to humanoid form. Combat having a more rubber aesthetic. A very dangerous martial artist with the knowledge to make the most out of lengthening reach, bending redirections, and explosive strikes.
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We can reduce Ambrosia potency by 3 so song can have up to 6P powers.

Song low potency means he has no chance of getting any side effects anyway. Since Potency reduction only boost the chance of side effect not increaee a side effects severity.
 
ArgentThyme said:
He can get FFM on the Battle Precog + TK build if we use the last 2 potency for Crimson Soprano. If that works out to something like inertia, gravity, or even friction manipulation that could be pretty good for a close in fighter, although Crimson Soprano is admittedly a more blasty sort of sample.
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That would still be a blasting power due CS being a blaster.

As a martial artist giving him CqC powers like Batte Precog and ABO fits more.

Also Abo giving him youth makes it easy to jsut say his powers triggered or make an entirely new identity for him.
 
Well, I have my reasons for keeping Song below 6-7 (we were told many pages ago about the risk of having too many A-S rank and sometime I feel like we've completely forgotten)

Personally I'm feeling the Steadfast + Million Minefields combo along with Battle Precog pair. It's t feels right for Song as a martial artist. Soldier X as well since Fitness may have a chance of restoring his youth.
 
I think for the most part (minus a few dissenters) we're locked in on the TK + Precog + Fitness set, so the rest is mostly quibbling about what to use the last two potency for. Personally while I get Steadfast is good on a melee fighter I think it's a little bit boring, but I also don't have a good idea otherwise. Eastwood doesn't really fit the vibe and that leaves what, doing the full set of P1s and slapping on Multiplex and Hydrocity?
 
Wing101r said:
Not to mention Towarri knows Uirra couped VS to stop her from killing herself. So tahts another problem with Uirra message to Javier since as we pointed out before Yazmin would have just gotten everyone to stop Nora if she actually knew she was fucking around with something that can destroy the world.
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It is Uiara not Uirra + it is Thats not tahts
 
ArgentThyme said:
I think for the most part (minus a few dissenters) we're locked in on the TK + Precog + Fitness set, so the rest is mostly quibbling about what to use the last two potency for. Personally while I get Steadfast is good on a melee fighter I think it's a little bit boring, but I also don't have a good idea otherwise. Eastwood doesn't really fit the vibe and that leaves what, doing the full set of P1s and slapping on Multiplex and Hydrocity?
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Nah, I do get that Steadfast is boring, but it's also built perfectly as a tanky frontliner. Not to mention I'm pretty sure Bitterman has ways to get around that. Honestly if the Steadfast powerset mainly makes Song more durable instead of truly invulnerable, I'd be happy enough. It still works with my idea of Steadfast plus Millions
 
ArgentThyme said:
I think for the most part (minus a few dissenters) we're locked in on the TK + Precog + Fitness set, so the rest is mostly quibbling about what to use the last two potency for. Personally while I get Steadfast is good on a melee fighter I think it's a little bit boring, but I also don't have a good idea otherwise. Eastwood doesn't really fit the vibe and that leaves what, doing the full set of P1s and slapping on Multiplex and Hydrocity?
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Honestly part of why I want to go ABO and Battle Precog.

Is because were already giving Steadfast and Then Telekinesis and Battleprecog to Yara.

So its a bit boring for me to just give Telekinesis and Battle Precog to song.

Abo and Battle precog atleast is a new interaction we havent tried yet.
 
While I definitely admire the romanticism of an aged warrior whose strength is restored for the greatest battle yet... and acknowledge the difficulty of swaying the vote... I'd like to try giving Song (or anybody) a support powerset instead, in the interest of both the Prometheus-concealing cover story and the hiding of the team power level.

Memoria + Mister Hunch could be cool. The former could see remotely, and the latter could see the past nearby -- maybe they'll make someone who can see the past remotely! Add Soldier X if you're really set on maximizing potency.

Alternatively, a transformation-focused one could be cool. If he's a good enough shapeshifter, just make him appear as a teenage boy in public and pretend he's a new awakening. Like Adamant + Sewer Rat, or Adamant + Multiplex + Daggermaw. He might even be an infiltrator, and use martial arts to escape in an emergency.

There is also, as others have said, the Fast Track action, which I believe? Song was the consensus planned recipient of.

Lastly, Bitterman hinted that we're getting new samples soon...

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And, uh, no particular reason, but if you have DNA samples you want to submit, now is the time.
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...so probably all my build ideas will become hopelessly obsolete :p
 
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I will once again bring up Red Huntress+Daggermaw grants both Telekinesis and Battle Precognition, with either Mister Hunch for Intangibility or Soldier X for an additional Fitness tag being possible, with me personally preferring Mister Hunch. Plus, it's likely to end up a scaling power, which would both likely make his baseline power weaker(helps with the "we have too many strong metahumans" issue) while giving him the option to punch up.
 
JowKeen said:
a subcontractor is definitionally subordinate to someone. If you're subordinate to anyone you cannot be at the peak of the Social Darwinist ladder. Sorry Scarlet
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Yeah but if Scarlet has a more intelligent version of a Social Darwinist he very much could be


Bitterman said:
I mean, nothing he did is worse than the sprees Warpstar would go on, and everyone likes him. Acid Rain has the highest body count by far—including kids.

These guys were in Wonderland for a reason.
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I wish to build a new better jail where we can work on rehabilitation ( and also want to steal the toy gimmick for an algernon)
Bitterman said:
Jorogumo did some stuff to warrant it.

She got hungry.
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And who amongst us hasn't gotten hungry
Bitterman said:
Golden Skull and Victor,
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Let's gooooooo my boys mentioned * rips shirt open*
Wing101r said:
QM curious was ask knight a Wonderland inmate?
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Witch knight there's like 3 to 4 of em
 
Frostbite is better than Steadfast + Hydrocity/Millions because it enables Telekinesis and has Invulnerability, but it also throws an extra Enhanced Strength in the mix. It's more efficient, and the whole "low range, summon an armor/weapon" deal could mean that a suit of telekinetic armor could cover his face and hide his identity. Plus, both Combat Precog and TK use Enhanced Strength, so an extra copy could boost them to be more formidable.

(I also floated that Yara's Combat Precog might be boosted by the double Clairvoyance in much the same way so it could distinguish them)
 
ProfessorB said:
While I definitely admire the romanticism of an aged warrior whose strength is restored for the greatest battle yet... and acknowledge the difficulty of swaying the vote... I'd like to try giving Song (or anybody) a support powerset instead, in the interest of both the Prometheus-concealing cover story and the hiding of the team power level.
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I definitely do think we should get some more support powers. Most of the builds I've seen so far are combat focused. That said, Song is very much built to be a combat guy, so I'd prefer to do probably Soraia as a support powerset instead.
 
EternalObserver said:
Well, I have my reasons for keeping Song below 6-7 (we were told many pages ago about the risk of having too many A-S rank and sometime I feel like we've completely forgotten)
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The highest Song can go is 6 due to the new cap on increasing Tolerance, but I agree. We can't exclusively have A-listers, not only because it'll attract a lot of attention but because from a narrative point of view it's a bit too much, you know?

Frankly, Tolerance 5 is high enough.
 
Frostbite Invulnerability is weaker than steadfast though since I temember that was mostly armoring himself up and resistance to cold.

Specifica of Powers are inportant too. Which is why Wade family is bullshit despite no synergies.
 
ProfessorB said:
While I definitely admire the romanticism of an aged warrior whose strength is restored for the greatest battle yet... and acknowledge the difficulty of swaying the vote... I'd like to try giving Song (or anybody) a support powerset instead, in the interest of both the Prometheus-concealing cover story and the hiding of the team power level.
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But you see I wish to hit some with the raging demon
 
ProfessorB said:
While I definitely admire the romanticism of an aged warrior whose strength is restored for the greatest battle yet... and acknowledge the difficulty of swaying the vote... I'd like to try giving Song (or anybody) a support powerset instead, in the interest of both the Prometheus-concealing cover story and the hiding of the team power level.
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My gripe with this one is why are we endorsing Song for this when Soraia's right there! At least with Song, we all sorta want Battle Precog with him. We don'y actually know what we want for Soraia yet.
ScorpioSting said:
Frostbite is better than Steadfast + Hydrocity/Millions because it enables Telekinesis and has Invulnerability, but it also throws an extra Enhanced Strength in the mix. It's more efficient, and the whole "low range, summon an armor/weapon" deal could mean that a suit of telekinetic armor could cover his face and hide his identity. Plus, both Combat Precog and TK use Enhanced Strength, so an extra copy could boost them to be more formidable.
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Well, "arguably better". While Frostbite has the advantage of an additional keyword, Millions' concept of absorbing and redirecting energy is just really good even at potency 1 so imagine that at a higher potency.
 
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