If Pholgiston's explosions are pyrotechnic rather than pure kinetic (which seems really likely given the pyrokinesis theme of the Demon Flamez), then it makes sense not only why he brought Ash Knight in (as insurance and defense), but also why he's trying to hook Pholgiston too: They would be an extremely strong combo, Phoklgiston starting the fires and Ash Knight getting stronger from them.
Damn hopefully he can recover after we rescue him same with any other hero LPP managed to whammy.
Brb prepping to cook up the most horrendous fire suppressing builds imaginable cause damn are we going to need it.
I guess we cant depend on Ellie for EVERYTHING...Brb prepping to cook up the most horrendous fire suppressing builds imaginable cause damn are we going to need it.
do we have power suppression? Suppressing resistance to fire for a pyrokinetic has got to suckBrb prepping to cook up the most horrendous fire suppressing builds imaginable cause damn are we going to need it.
Im not against it. But Im still waiting for us to REACH the next turn before we do anything.
Ellie has Power Null as one of her ults, but unfortunately it only works on "active powers". So it wouldn't take away fire resistance, only the fire I think.
Yeah I think this is right. And we already have paper and the fire manipulation it has as a trump card.
Other way around. It wouldn't put out the fire, but would null their resistance to it
Oh NVM. Its active powers not passive. That... would suck for any pyromancer...
Ash Knight probablby wins that as a P13 with focus on flames unlike ellie who only has it as 1 of her powers.
Hmm... maybe. We havent really tested it, since Ellie went sicko mode on Stockpile and Ete... basically let herself get KO. So that would be its first test run If we do it.
Not the QM, but If I were to take a guess? (In potency)
I mean I'm mostly joking as I'm not sure we have the cap/money/tempo/etc to realistically do it, depending on if Ash Knight shows here or when the followup is, alongside Ellie being okay here. But as it stands, smothering the fires when what we know about Ash Knight is that he gets stronger the more things burn (and presumably produce ash?) seems pretty reasonable.
The avenues my mind goes to would be using an Automne, Umibozu, or Golem build for some way to put out fires and deprive them of air in one form or another. I can theoretically see an argument for Feth through the mist but that seems stretching it. Golem is probably the weakest of the three mentioned given how the power seemed to be used but the option exists.
I already mentioned that John's barriers and the oxygen trick can suppress fires before, and my plan for Song involves using Frostbite who would also be useful for firefighting.
Yeah, seems quite plausible! Leaves some questions (what's Theo (Augur?)'s machine, what the hell did the 11th hour actually do, why she turned out so different (she doesn't sound that Valiant in the glimpses we've gotten from Silvio
) but makes sense to me. Wonder if there's any inconsistencies or tensions anyone else has noticed?Song wouldnt necessarily have Ice powers though plus, Ice is melted by flames and hed a lower potency than ashknight too.
Also that quote reminds me that LiB was actually hitching a ride in Exceed same with Mona. Guess thats were Silvio got the psychic proof Nora didnt care about others.Yeah, seems quite plausible! Leaves some questions (what's Theo (Augur?)'s machine, what the hell did the 11th hour actually do, why she turned out so different (she doesn't sound that Valiant in the glimpses we've gotten from Silvio
Yes, but its also been brought up more than a few times that decent potency gaps on things like elemental manipulation can just lead to kind of just dominating the other. I don't think any Song build realistically has the cap to not fall prey to that, and John is definitely nice for this but he's only got so many barriers to pull the trick off with.
