… why? We're not throwing away a perfectly good candidate on triggering resonance and killing both them and SB. If wanna use SB in Project Prometheus, we gotta kill her. Nobody's gonna object on us killing the "Justiciar mind nuke" lady.(Plus we could use this to nonlethally incapacitate SB long enough to get a dna sample.
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I don't think there's a way to write a character like this well for a quest. Narratively she's a flawed character with a decently interesting back story and characterization. From a gameplay perspective, she just represents the kind of oppressive threat that really sours players-I actually like SB, which is a shame I missed the mark writing her.
Given the potential state of JU, Crusade, and whoever is backing S.B. (the hand?) Recovering her DNA could end up being complicated. I'm saying this powerset could make it easier to get that DNA sample. Obviously we'd kill her immediately afterwards.… why? We're not throwing away a perfectly good candidate on triggering resonance and killing both them and SB. If wanna use SB in Project Prometheus, we gotta kill her. Nobody's gonna object on us killing the "Justiciar mind nuke" lady.
Yep might need rosemary to use SB power properly and without the cloning aspect. At the very least power copying should be a synergy.… why? We're not throwing away a perfectly good candidate on triggering resonance and killing both them and SB. If wanna use SB in Project Prometheus, we gotta kill her. Nobody's gonna object on us killing the "Justiciar mind nuke" lady.
Yeah, but that requires the corpse to be there. I'm expecting either Crusade or some other party to try and interfere after the initial conflict ends, and for SB's body to go missing in the confusion. This would mitigate that.The DNA sample is only usable if she dies. And Menagerie Witch is more than happy to take DNA from corpses.
Edicts themselves wouldn't be able to force her to tell us anything, all they can do is punish someone with the things we've seen if they don't obey them. There might be a possibility if the resulting power is closer to outright mind control, though.If our blend has Edict or something like that... what if we used one to force her to tell us about her organization? And get some goddamn intel?
Nah. Some lines can't be uncrossed. None of your members would tolerate her joining JU as she is anyway.I could see the sub-vote being about whether to spare SB or not
Wonderland minimum yeh and Id vote for death since she could escape or rescued. Plus franky there no way she hasnt killed enough people not to warrant a death penalty.Nah. Some lines can't be uncrossed. None of your members would tolerate her joining JU as she is anyway.
What is dandeer?
Just people.
honestly, if that's actually the case, that's definitely...Not an IDEAL alternative for myriad reasons, especially since it probably would have some real limits, but if the limits are sufficiently large?Bit of a thought: plan CAT might result in the ability to place permanent, unbreakable commands onto a single person. A combination of Justicars edicts, Red Huntress's focus on a single person and Heavenly Astrologers FFM.
If it does, we could literally depower SB, removing her as a threat without killing her.
Oh I just meant in the way of "EDICT: Kaitlyn English truthfully reveals everything she knows about "Speaker" and "Hand". Punishment: Stimulation of pain centers of brain for lying or extended silence"Edicts themselves wouldn't be able to force her to tell us anything, all they can do is punish someone with the things we've seen if they don't obey them. There might be a possibility if the resulting power is closer to outright mind control, though.
I think Ellie would prefer to just kill her rather than torture her for information.Oh I just meant in the way of "EDICT: Kaitlyn English truthfully reveals everything she knows about "Speaker" and "Hand". Punishment: Stimulation of pain centers of brain for lying or extended silence"
Same and thats a Villian mistake really. Good guys just kill no hesitation when needed.I think Ellie would prefer to just kill her rather than torturing her for information.
HA may have been Ellie's mom, but the Defiance Unit have been waiting a literal decade for their run back against White Hawk for Belle/Triss. When Ellie calls for help, they're gonna be jumping* at the call.
Maybe in reality check no way crusade aint gonna try to stop us there.HA may have been Ellie's mom, but the Defiance Unit have been waiting a literal decade for their run back against White Hawk for Belle/Triss. When Ellie calls for help, they're gonna be jumping* at the call.
*well as much as you can jump on the Stage, I think it's non-physical
Setting aside the morality of that, I don't think Justice Unlimited knows of Speaker and Hand in-universe?Oh I just meant in the way of "EDICT: Kaitlyn English truthfully reveals everything she knows about "Speaker" and "Hand". Punishment: Stimulation of pain centers of brain for lying or extended silence"
Edict 1: Do not try to harm Justice Unlimited or their allies. Punishment: Punch self instead.