I like the reasoning behind the name! Ceramic is certainly pretty thematic for Rhys. Nice callback to his BF Vulcan liking dragons too, since you heat up clay to make Ceramic and dragons are a great source of fire.

It's actually pretty romantic too if you think about it. Vulcan's ideals are what made Rhys take his step towards heroism.

Though, I will say the Emblem is overly detailed. It's best to keep it simple, hence why most supers who have emblems tend to go for minimalism (think Superman's S, or Batman's stylized bat), especially since the symbol will be on their body and details will be hard to spot with how small it is.

A spiraling dragon alone is pretty good on its own already.
I'm not sure Rhys would want an oblique reference to his sex life as his emblem. If he wanted to honor Vulcan, he'd be likely to take a hammer or volcano or something.
 
I like the reasoning behind the name! Ceramic is certainly pretty thematic for Rhys. Nice callback to his BF Vulcan liking dragons too, since you heat up clay to make Ceramic and dragons are a great source of fire.

It's actually pretty romantic too if you think about it. Vulcan's ideals are what made Rhys take his step towards heroism.

Though, I will say the Emblem is overly detailed. It's best to keep it simple, hence why most supers who have emblems tend to go for minimalism (think Superman's S, or Batman's stylized bat), especially since the symbol will be on their body and details will be hard to spot with how small it is.

A spiraling dragon alone is pretty good on its own already.

Hmm good points. How about...

[X] Plan: Ceramist. The V2.
-[X] Name: Ceramic.
-[X] Emblem: An eastern dragon/lung, spiraling outwards (tail-tip is more or less the center of the spiral, the head where the spiral ends, so it's going in an inwards→outwards direction).

I guess I'll keep the other plan around too, just in case @BKNK.SHOP prefers drawing overly detailed logos :p Also because I'm sentimental and I liked working on the plan so I'll leave it untouched for posterity, or something.


I'm not sure Rhys would want an oblique reference to his sex life as his emblem. If he wanted to honor Vulcan, he'd be likely to take a hammer or volcano or something.

B-but he said he hoped the ambrosia turned him into a dragon? And that he liked dragons? :cry: Like, my reasoning for that was:
because he said he liked dragons and because chinese dragons are from china, where the terracotta army was found, terracotta which is like ceramic which– I think you get it yes.
I actually hadn't considered the Vulcan implications overly much tbh, would he really see it like that... I'd come up with another plan for the emblem but the fey mood that struck me to make the last one is gone so uhh. *frantically brainstorms*

[ ] Plan: Ceramist. The un-draconic.
-[ ] Name: Ceramic.
-[ ] Emblem: Not a dragon.

...actually, now that I think about it, how was the name/emblem deal working In-Character? The candidates themselves are coming up with the names? Having names assigned? Something in-between? A secret third thing?
 
Hmm good points. How about...

[X] Plan: Ceramist. The V2.
-[X] Name: Ceramic.
-[X] Emblem: An eastern dragon/lung, spiraling outwards (tail-tip is more or less the center of the spiral, the head where the spiral ends, so it's going in an inwards→outwards direction).

I guess I'll keep the other plan around too, just in case @BKNK.SHOP prefers drawing overly detailed logos :p Also because I'm sentimental and I liked working on the plan so I'll leave it untouched for posterity, or something.




B-but he said he hoped the ambrosia turned him into a dragon? And that he liked dragons? :cry: Like, my reasoning for that was:

I actually hadn't considered the Vulcan implications overly much tbh, would he really see it like that... I'd come up with another plan for the emblem but the fey mood that struck me to make the last one is gone so uhh. *frantically brainstorms*

[ ] Plan: Ceramist. The un-draconic.
-[ ] Name: Ceramic.
-[ ] Emblem: Not a dragon.

...actually, now that I think about it, how was the name/emblem deal working In-Character? The candidates themselves are coming up with the names? Having names assigned? Something in-between? A secret third thing?
It's something in-between. Mona had hundreds of ideas she pared down with Chaucer. Maddie knew what she wanted right away.

Emblems are more personal. Every hero has one and it's like a signature.
 
Despite never having finished Worm, I did see the Lung comparison coming a mile away and I'll just say: mine is different!

That said, what would you say that good ol Skitter (preferably Warlord Skitter) would be rated?

I'd assume she'd have a terrific espionage and a surprisingly potent Hit (that armor of hers is very good and she's vicious in a fight) plus relatively decent operations (She's a good tactician, though a subpar strategist). Also a very high Reputation skill, because this is the woman who, on sheer force of personality, managed to convince her peers to support her over the heroes.

Taylor would be kinda nuts under this system wouldn't she?
 
I dont know if any of these would work, but maybe it can help for inspiration?
1.How about clay being pierced by a Drill?

2.Maybe something like Golurks chest? I think clay has some Alchemic legends surroumding it, maybe a clay alchemy pot or clay forge? (Wait no he would need fire as well)

3. Hmm maybe the fighting or ground type Pokemom symbol?
OR

4.idk why I thought about digimon... maybe the digiegg?

Digiegg

HOw about something that looks lile a golem? ....now im imagining his emblem is just a black sillouete of E Hero Clayman....
Yeah...idk, maybe some of these could help with the emblem?
 
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That said, what would you say that good ol Skitter (preferably Warlord Skitter) would be rated?

I'd assume she'd have a terrific espionage and a surprisingly potent Hit (that armor of hers is very good and she's vicious in a fight) plus relatively decent operations (She's a good tactician, though a subpar strategist). Also a very high Reputation skill, because this is the woman who, on sheer force of personality, managed to convince her peers to support her over the heroes.

Taylor would be kinda nuts under this system wouldn't she?
Having only gotten to part after the Slaughterhouse Five arc where she fights Dragon's mech (for some goddamn reason) before I tapped out and then spoiled myself on the rest:
HIT 3, ESPIONAGE 7, REPUTATION 6, OPERATIONS 5

Given the power levels of metahumans in Horizon, Skitter would get annihilated in a fight. In the original Justice Unlimited, only Lady Leizi and The Red Huntress would be vulnerable to her, and Leizi could zap the bugs off her body and The Red Huntress would murder her as soon as she was found. Bugs ain't gonna cut it.

ESPIONAGE would be her highest stat, at a 7 because I think her range was only a block or two? Reputation is a mixed bag---good leader sure, but people would be suspicious of her reputation if she keeps escalating every encounter. Operations I'm split on---she's a very quick thinker, but seems like she's of average intelligence and keeps making incredibly and obviously stupid decisions so the plot will keep going.
 
I actually hadn't considered the Vulcan implications overly much tbh, would he really see it like that... I'd come up with another plan for the emblem but the fey mood that struck me to make the last one is gone so uhh. *frantically brainstorms*

[ ] Plan: Ceramist. The un-draconic.
-[ ] Name: Ceramic.
-[ ] Emblem: Not a dragon.
We could combine the alchemical symbols for Fire and Earth for a Emblem. Together, they make Pottery/Ceramics from Clay.

Alternatively, there is a alchemical symbol for Clay, though I can't find any reputable sources that say this was used for clay historically. To personalize it better with Rhys, maybe best to insert a open eye somewhere in either option.
 
Having only gotten to part after the Slaughterhouse Five arc where she fights Dragon's mech (for some goddamn reason) before I tapped out and then spoiled myself on the rest:
HIT 3, ESPIONAGE 7, REPUTATION 6, OPERATIONS 5

Given the power levels of metahumans in Horizon, Skitter would get annihilated in a fight. In the original Justice Unlimited, only Lady Leizi and The Red Huntress would be vulnerable to her, and Leizi could zap the bugs off her body and The Red Huntress would murder her as soon as she was found. Bugs ain't gonna cut it.

ESPIONAGE would be her highest stat, at a 7 because I think her range was only a block or two? Reputation is a mixed bag---good leader sure, but people would be suspicious of her reputation if she keeps escalating every encounter. Operations I'm split on---she's a very quick thinker, but seems like she's of average intelligence and keeps making incredibly and obviously stupid decisions so the plot will keep going.

I mean, the flipside is her incredibly stupid decisions turn out to be actually right by author fiat.

She's Right not to trust Authority because The Man is both highly competent and Unbelievably, Comically Corrupt. She's right to escalate at every turn because nobody ever deals with her in good faith unless she has their arm twisted (And they'll backstab her the moment it gets untwisted, even if that would hurt them).

A message about "Hey, maybe trusting people is important, because the strength of one person only goes so far" falls kind of flat when the entire setting is built around "Trust nobody, Not even yourself" as enforced by functionally omniscient god-intellects.
 
I mean, the flipside is her incredibly stupid decisions turn out to be actually right by author fiat.

She's Right not to trust Authority because The Man is both highly competent and Unbelievably, Comically Corrupt. She's right to escalate at every turn because nobody ever deals with her in good faith unless she has their arm twisted (And they'll backstab her the moment it gets untwisted, even if that would hurt them).

A message about "Hey, maybe trusting people is important, because the strength of one person only goes so far" falls kind of flat when the entire setting is built around "Trust nobody, Not even yourself" as enforced by functionally omniscient god-intellects.
Man, I said I tapped out for a reason!
 
We could combine the alchemical symbols for Fire and Earth for a Emblem. Together, they make Pottery/Ceramics from Clay.

Alternatively, there is a alchemical symbol for Clay, though I can't find any reputable sources that say this was used for clay historically. To personalize it better with Rhys, maybe best to insert a open eye somewhere in either option.

Ooh, thank you! I really appreciate this!

[X] Plan: Ceramicist Alchemic. V1
-[X] Name: Ceramic.
-[X] Emblem: The symbol for clay, but in each of the outer circles of the symbol place the symbols for water 🜄, fire 🜂 and earth 🜃, so that each circle holds a different symbol.

Leaving it like this for now, added water because it is a part of making clay and a feature he sort of has from his powers.

I really need to go to sleep now though, like, this instant, again, thanks a lot. :)

I will make revisions tomorrow if I have the time/inspiration/ideas/something.
 
[Energy Manipulation] + [Elemental Manipulation] + [Solar Absorption] = [Fundamental Force Manipulation]

SYNERGY FOUND:

[Transformation] + [Transformation] + [Regeneration] + [Regeneration] + [Fitness] = [Autobiokinesis]

So an observation, we now have 3 cases of powers self synergizing. I'm going to go ahead and call it a pattern that most powers will synergize either with themselves, or have synergies that need multiple copies of themselves.
 
Oh my god…


(But in all seriousness, I only read like one or two arcs of worm, and Bitterman's characters already feel more compelling and likable to me. Emphasis on that second one. Just because a setting is dark doesn't mean that you should make the vast majority of your characters be rat bastards.)
 
Oh my god…


(But in all seriousness, I only read like one or two arcs of worm, and Bitterman's characters already feel more compelling and likable to me. Emphasis on that second one. Just because a setting is dark doesn't mean that you should make the vast majority of your characters be rat bastards.)
Ditto. All I know about Worm is the cultural osmosis from reading a bunch of fanfic relating to the setting. Wide brush strokes of the plot. Absolutely 0 clue what is or isnt fanon.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Bitterman on Aug 18, 2024 at 10:52 PM, finished with 97 posts and 23 votes.


Looks like plan Friendly Face is still in the lead! Will it stay that way?
 
i just realized, a good way to keep with the Handyman and spy theming at the same time is to stick with the theater mask, but have the mouth be X-ed out with tools used in pottery or such!

Bit too late to edit the vote now tho, so I'll approval vote for a new plan that incorporates the idea.

[X] Plan: Friendly Face
-[X] Name: Handyman
-[X] Emblem: A Theater Mask, one-half smiling and the other frowning

[X] Plan: Between the Lines
-[X] Name: Handyman
-[X] Emblem: A Theater Mask with it's mouth replaced by a crossed wire clay cutter.

I was looking up tools for clay sculpting and turns out, wire clay cutters look like garrote wires! Whether someone sees the tool for arts and crafts, or the weapon for assassination is up to which one Rhys thinks you deserve to experience. The double meaning fits quite well with his friendly persona and his history in the not-so-clean business of being a spy.

The theater mask also plays into that with him being able to literally change how others see him, and the whole "X-over-a-mouth" is just extra flair for the "Superspy keeping it hush-hush" theme.
 
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