Isn't Al an Adult Void Dragon? This is after Lucifer grafted his powers to his soul permanently. He's powerful enough to kill Endbringers and cripple if not kill Scion. Mister Ficser? Or with his level at that point Alec should be an Elder Void Dragon already. Even in human polymorph an Elder could tear through the PRT shields and bunker on their old rig with its bare hands.
If you want to kill Scion, I recommend Gating to an Earth with a Shard on it and then using Meteor with Entanglement on said Shard. This might fix the Parahuman problem entirely, and yes they are a massive fucking problem that is actively and rapidly destroying civilization completely independent from the Endbringers, and continues to do so after Scion is killed.

I do not recommend any lesser method. Scion can and did one-shot continents. Attacking his human-shaped avatar can only inflict a human-volume of damage at a time, against something that outmasses the planet. In canon he committed suicide - he allowed Flechette to shoot him, opening the portal from his avatar to his real body, and he allowed the Interdimensional Super Gun to hit after that.
 
As to the question of a VS debate? I'll consider who wins what where it's applicable, rather than making any blanket statements. I'll leave that kind of wank to Wildbow and Deathbattles.
Truly, you posses the wisdom of a sage.

I've answered this before but I don't mind repeating it
Sorry! I have been TRYING to read the comments but the thread moves pretty fast, and there's six or so others I'm also actively reading to get mixed up with or make me forget details.
 
Truly, you posses the wisdom of a sage.


Sorry! I have been TRYING to read the comments but the thread moves pretty fast, and there's six or so others I'm also actively reading to get mixed up with or make me forget details.

You're fine! Like I said, I don't mind repeating it. I know that 3-4k words in a day, spread across three chapters with a boatload of comments in between can make for a mess.

I can't tell you how many times I've forgotten the threadmarks in that time period.
 
I personally like to imagine the Mouse With the Most as being ironically amazonian, but it would also be pretty funny if she's a little tiny. It'd make it even more embarrassing to get your ass kicked by her.
it would make sense imagine getting your ass kicked by an absolute mouse of a woman that play's up the whole mouse theme while being the most absolute pain in the ass to hit.

She could turn every encounter into a drawn out joke of a scene where no matter how hard you try you just can't hit her and she's teleporting and making the entire scene a joke, imagine how much that would get under the skin of villains who want to be taken seriously when anytime you try to throw your name around and be intimidating someones rolling a compilation of mouse humiliating you.

Ravager most likely blew enough fuses to go mental and that's what lead to the slaughter house nine call.
 
"Damn straight!" the attendant, apparently named Maddie, agreed enthusiastically. "Or is that damned gay? Queer? Shit, is that offensive?"

"...I have no idea," Alec admitted.

He'd never actually thought about it.

"...Can you not tell my boss?" Maddie quietly asked, her voice soft. "I don't need no more write-ups!"
Kinda takes me out, cos I doubt this would take place. Not only it's 2011, but people on Bet have more pressing issues to be worried about than thought crimes from 2020s.
 
Kinda takes me out, cos I doubt this would take place. Not only it's 2011, but people on Bet have more pressing issues to be worried about than thought crimes from 2020s.
They also have literal nazis next door and people have to be careful to make sure they don't sound like they support them. They aren't using pro inclusion language, they are using anti exclusion language.
 
Kinda takes me out, cos I doubt this would take place. Not only it's 2011, but people on Bet have more pressing issues to be worried about than thought crimes from 2020s.

They also have literal nazis next door and people have to be careful to make sure they don't sound like they support them. They aren't using pro inclusion language, they are using anti exclusion language.


I can see that.

I just wanted to put in a reference to Legend, since New York is his turf. He's a good guy and his sexuality was kind of a constantly reinforced part of his character.

Then we've got Maddie who's trying to make small talk and says something that she thinks is supposed to be supportive, but then immediately rethinks that after saying it out loud.

I'd like to imagine that if Legend had been a participant, he would have just laughed it off and said 'Yeah. Fuck Nazis.'
 
I do not recommend any lesser method. Scion can and did one-shot continents. Attacking his human-shaped avatar can only inflict a human-volume of damage at a time, against something that outmasses the planet. In canon he committed suicide - he allowed Flechette to shoot him, opening the portal from his avatar to his real body, and he allowed the Interdimensional Super Gun to hit after that.

He one shot the UK not any continents and we pretty much know he didn't anyway because ward directly shows Africa and America to still exist, some of the UK capes survived because they were in mainland Europe and the yangban still had huge numbers. Gold Morning was Scion revelling in emotions and basically being a kid experimenting with different ways of killing insects which is why he did things like go to one town and kill all the people that met certain criteria such as being over a certain age. Heck there was even a bit after Taylor got her power jailbroken where he started chasing her before suddenly appearing right in front of her and putting his hands on her throat before letting her go because he was messing around. The only exception to that is the UK because it's where Kevin Norton lived so he gave them a sudden painless death.
 
Al's not even a century old. He's just been very motivated.

As to the question of a VS debate? I'll consider who wins what where it's applicable, rather than making any blanket statements. I'll leave that kind of wank to Wildbow and Deathbattles.



I've answered this before but I don't mind repeating it;

Al is not limited to only casting Phantom Force once at a time. With his full SP bar, he can currently cast it sixteen times at once. That would be sixteen copies of Alec, with whatever gear he currently had equipped when he used it. Including guns, bullets and magazines. Right now, he can already use it to summon up a temporary firing squad that won't drain his physical resources.
Does that mean he could pull an Oni Lee (without repeatedly killing and replacing himself) and have his copies armed with tinkertech bombs? get the stranger power and then have the copies just casually walk up to targets and explode leaving behind no evidence
 
Does that mean he could pull an Oni Lee (without repeatedly killing and replacing himself) and have his copies armed with tinkertech bombs? get the stranger power and then have the copies just casually walk up to targets and explode leaving behind no evidence

That actually opens up a question as to whether or not Tinkertech would work for him after he has such a stranger ability.

Tinkertech, after all, is not actually technology. It's an effect imposed on an object by an extradimensional entity under the guise of being technology, requiring constant reinforcement or recharging by the original tinker, for optimum efficiency, or another tinker at reduced capability/charge/durability.

If Mantellum's effect is as thorough as it's been described, the responsible shard may not be able to perceive the tinkertech being activated inside of the Stranger field of effect.
 
Chapter 5, Monday. Item investment values at 50, 50, 80, 73. Skill level 5, every 50 minutes.
Chapter 7, Friday evening, dinner with the late nazis. 80, 80, 102, 93. Skill level 6, every 25 minutes.
Chapter 8, Monday again. 95, 95, 122, 110. Skill level 6, every 7 minutes (6.25, really).

So, over the course of four days, Alec invested 20 times. When he can do two per hour.
Then, over the weekend, he invested 15 charge, 15 charge, 20 charge, and 17 charge, none of which are a multiple of 6, for a total of 67.
About 11.2 infusions. Which would take less than 90 minutes.

Separately, HP, Hit Points, is supposed to be how much damage he can take before it starts hurting his body, so I'm not sure why having low HP is causing him physical distress.
He one shot the UK not any continents and we pretty much know he didn't anyway because ward directly shows Africa and America to still exist,
Earth Bet was not the only place he went. He kind of went on a multiversal tour of destruction for a few days, and then did a lot of world hopping while thoroughly pissed when fighting Khepri. I'd have to check on the hands around throat thing and need to sleep now, but I suspect she forced him to dodge with Flechette.
The only exception to that is the UK because it's where Kevin Norton lived so he gave them a sudden painless death.
Kevin Norton was already dead by then.
 
They also have literal nazis next door and people have to be careful to make sure they don't sound like they support them. They aren't using pro inclusion language, they are using anti exclusion language.
Suuure. They are so worried about the nazis next door, that they do totally fucking nothing with them. The world is in such a deep shithole, no one really cares much about what's beyond their immediate area anymore.
In 2011 they were still making movies where gays could be part of the joke, and no one was offended by it. And here she is, acting as if she was about to be canceled in our current year, for not kissing enough ass. Even the word "queer" didn't pop into the day-to-day language till at least 2016.
 
And then a seagull robbed his hot dog and an AC unit Fell on his Head

I honestly hoped that AL would have hated NYC as much as Homer Simpson would

Also there is a giangntic Cape population on NYC, If Its 1 in 8k there are 1 thousand capes in NYC

best place for AL bar none
 
Suuure. They are so worried about the nazis next door, that they do totally fucking nothing with them. The world is in such a deep shithole, no one really cares much about what's beyond their immediate area anymore.
In 2011 they were still making movies where gays could be part of the joke, and no one was offended by it. And here she is, acting as if she was about to be canceled in our current year, for not kissing enough ass. Even the word "queer" didn't pop into the day-to-day language till at least 2016.

I can tell you for a fact that Queer was being used well before 2016. Went to school with a literal neo-nazi back in the early 2000s who liked to throw that one around. Prick liked going after a friend of mine which...

Mr.Neo-Nazi had black hair and brown eyes. My buddy was on the bigger side but he had straw-blond hair and greenish-blue eyes.

Never made any sense to the rest of us, being completely honest. We figured he was just a hateful asshole who found a 'cause' he could get behind.

Heard he's been married and divorced after high school and hasn't gotten any better.
 
allowed Flechette to shoot him, opening the portal from his avatar to his real body, and he allowed the Interdimensional Super Gun to hit after that.
I know. Alec has both Majustis and the new spell he based on Majustis maxed along with Entangle. That would delete the Shards entirely. The sudden silence will warn the other Devourers that something dangerous lives in the star cluster. Something that from their pov, can kill two Devourers one after the other near simultaneously with their view of time.
 
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literal neo-nazi back in the early 2000s who liked to throw that one around. Prick liked going after a friend of mine which...
I feel old. Queer meant odd, probably crazy, definitely not normal person. Then again it was a catholic nun who taught us English. It was definitely East Coast upper class English and actual Queen's English when she was replaced by a British nun the next year.

Slang and improper grammar got you a whack from their canes.
 
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He probably could get paid for investing in Lady Liberty,the skill list no size limit and with 6% repair he has her whole again in no time.
 
A service worker wondering if she just accidentally said something offensive and not wanting her boss to find out is a completely normal thing. And it's not like it came out of nowhere - they were talking about Legend and Nazis. What about this is weird?
 
Kevin Norton was already dead by then.

He was but scion chose to target the UK first because it was Norton's homeland because when the girl Norton told him to listen to told him to get away from Jack he moved so it was the nearest landmass after he used his powers to confirm he could come to the same conclusion as what Jack was saying on his own so he began his experiments in killing people with destroying it thereafter tho he'd done the one shotting experiment so he varied it by doing things like selectively killing people or killing them in different ways.

When NY was hit, how did the USS Intrepid Museum Ship fare?

Even the Twin Towers?

The Behemoth atk was 1994 but there is a wog 9/11 didn't happen on bet so airport security isn't as tight tho I don't know if there's anything official about that being due to changes in the timeline or if it's something like Cauldron stopped it to allow capes and cape stuff to move around easier so logically if the twin towers were destroyed in it that would have been mentioned there. I can also add that one of the a pho sundays threads says that the MacLeod group was given 898 million dollars in contracts to oversee a majority of the rebuilding efforts but the group head who had mafia ties skimped out by hiring a parahuman who could generate materials out of thin air. The problem with that tho is that the material they generate is highly flammable and like most powers of that type degrades over time so in August 2012 a public building named MacLeod hall collapsed killing 80 people along with injuring another 300 and 12 others showed multiple stress fractures.
 
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