Well see heres the thing. Those were Nazis. He ended up in a situation where he had to either break bread with Nazis, kill them, or disappear without them wondering why.

I have no problem understanding why he killed them.

After that he ran into opportunities to do some good while he was behind the wheel of a car and very squishy himself, then Cauldron tried to do away with him and things rapidly escalated from there until he looked around and found himself once again with both knowledge of some wrongs and the power to deal with them.

Fairly straightforward void dragon activities after that.

What he does after this is the main question. Hes picked a lot of low hanging fruit and dealt with his magic deficiency, so what now?


The Nine seem to be on his mind but hed have no idea where to find them. Perhaps he waits and recuperates, perhaps he goes global.
 
He could have easily exposed the corruption going on and got rid of most of the red tape, then worked with the genuine heroes to get the job done. Instead he is dropping hints at the corruption and killing everyone himself. It's a huge shift in methods. And there are actually a huge number of heroes that actually mean well, it's just that two out of three of the heavy hitters are corrupt as hell. But Legend is a good dude who was genuinely horrified when Alex told him the truth and immediately moved to verify it. Most of the prt are good people, with pockets of assholes. Snip them out and they can get to work.
Yes, expose all the corruption all at once while everything's balancing on a knife's edge. The next endbringer fight he'd better be powered up enough to solo it, because it's just going to be him and maybe Legend.
 
Now we just have to wait for August Prince to call Rebecca and her facing two people, one her friend and the other an innocent child, that she fail miserable to say the iconic quote "Are we the baddies"
 
"Pictures of Alexandria's butt will distract him." lol. I wonder if Alexandria will try to honeypot him now ;)

I wonder what intel Legend will acquire from his bug, and what he'll do with it. Or if they'll find the bug, and decide to do something about him.
 
Parahuman Response Team Internal Document 02062011-W
Mini-Omake PRT calculations

Exert from analysis of unknown parahuman hereby named Wyrm:

[...] Parahuman hereby named Wyrm has resilience above what missile bombardment can accomplish, not only his mover rating would render most conventional forms of bombardment ineffective his impact on the lunar surface produced energy in between 50 - 500 kg of TNT and proceed to continue moving without any apparent damage, meaning standard ordinance for ultra brutes may not possess any effectiveness even at direct hits, as his resistance bypasses all artillery and missile batteries currently within the PRT arsenal.

Deployment of bombers with kiloton, and above, level ordinance has been summarily dismissed.

His flying capability combined with vacuum movement also represents a potential danger of kinetic bombardment, as even relatively minor objects such as telephone polls could, with minimal mundane preparation, be fashioned into heavy kinetic projectiles that are predicted capable of breaching into every single know PRT and Protectorate facility whose defenses this team was capable of analyzing.[...]
 
Why is Legend being sarcastic about his personhood?

He's quoting David's/Eidolon's own words back at him, with extra snark.

He could have easily exposed the corruption going on and got rid of most of the red tape, then worked with the genuine heroes to get the job done. Instead he is dropping hints at the corruption and killing everyone himself.

Yeah, nah. If Cauldron were out of the picture (or at the very least, Contessa and Doctor Mother were removed from the picture or completely de-fanged, minimum) there might be some possibility of the high road working, but without that, there's zero chance at all of simply revealing the corruption and things proceeding positively from there.

Let's not forget that the PRT has dangerously hateful dickheads such as Tagg in positions of considerable power, and has no idea that Coil/Calvert had comprehensively compromised the ENE division and the rest of the organisation to a slightly lesser extent.

Appealing to the authorities in the Wormverse is never going to end other than poorly, because the entire world is deliberately constructed that way.

See also Rathmun's incisive observation above about how poorly such an attempt would turn out.

The number of comments stating people are shocked about the numbers and names of people that Al has killed during his tenure here in the Worm-verse quite frankly boggles me. The closest to an innocent in that list was Othala, whilst a great many of them were unarguably irredeemable monsters that needed killing and provably wouldn't be getting it from any of the authorities within the areas those monsters were occupying.

Once again, that inescapable fact falls at the feet of Wildbow and his determination to make his world ever worse no matter who tried to improve it, or how carefully they did.

And I find it even more bizarre that almost nobody is mentioning how much all of those killings have cost Al, both the acts of killing, and just the corrosive knowledge of exactly why those monsters needed to be slain. As others have stated above, Al can take things far more slowly and (generally) cautiously in the DC universe because the League exists and for all their flaws and failings, both work very hard to limit the damage from and fight the plans of the assorted evils in their world.

Right here, at this moment, there is no-one other than Al within the Worm universe that knows how bad things are or can take the actions he has to start cauterising some of this world's suppurating wounds.

He's almost completely alone, in an extremely toxic world/society and at best the lawful authorities are deliberately hamstrung, and at worst are actively working hard at making everything worse.

Why was Piggot so thankful Shadow Stalker wasn't part of the meeting? Is it because Sophia doesn't have anything constructive to say and would belittle other meeting participants?

Is it because Sophia is so psychotically aggressive that she'd seriously consider attacking Apollyon?

Probably both of those, plus the fact that she's fundamentally a hateful little shit with a massively inflated sense of her own competence and importance. Sophia's presence in any even vaguely tense or complex situation is only ever going to have a highly negative impact on what the rest of the group are trying to achieve.

Where'd they get the video from?

Most likely one of any number of university astronomy programs/observatories, or even any number of 'amateur' astronomers that happened to be looking in the right place at the right time. The vast majority of which would be only too happy to allow the footage to be spread widely for minimal if any compensation.
 
the neat thing is that i semi canonized my suggestion for alecs cape name to be Wyrm, which is just greatly and deliciously ironic that he gets to literally become the namesake of the series

"He did it, he did he is the Wyrm" said the black hair girl in glasses, and then he Wyrmed all over the place
 
....wait wouldnt Contessa immediately zero on that? Pretty sure legend aint a blindspot, I know she isnt there but it shouldnt matter with the path.

Unless she is letting it happen?

She didn't stop it in canon because he proceeded to do nothing with or about it and if that has changed then it's from his contact with a blindspot.

Oh don't get me wrong, I fully approve of him killing the bastards. I'm just saying he went from actively ignoring people trying to kill him, and spending all his time over preparing, to hunting and killing every evil person he can think of. It was a radical shift, and leans a little far. He normally tries to work with the genuine good guys, this time he ignores them and goes straight to hunting the bad guys. Legend was deceived by people he trusted, most of the Brockton prt are good people held back by red tape.

Covered it before but Legend isn't and the bay prt aren't good guys heck they have at least 3 internationally wanted mercenaries on their staff. The simple fact is this is worm I have more fingers than there are genuine good guys and probable good guys in canon.

I mean, id figure she has a path related to Cauldron secrets and stuff, and since Lagend isnt a blind spot he'd show up in the path depending on what he does with the tape.

Alec is a bit odd here, he immidiatly resorted into killing people with the whole pie thing then kept escalating like he was Taylor. His powers dont need him to kill people tho he still does it.

Granted they did deserve it but killing most of em wasnt really neccesary.

Cauldron made it worse again by trying to kill him for unknown reasons that I cannot comprehend. Maybe if they werent enemies it would be too easy for Alec to win or smt since he could have likely reasoned with them if he tried, they ARE very desperate after all.

See above about Legend as for Al he's suffering from being in a no mana region and is going after monsters probably hoping it lets him leave. Cauldron tried to kill him because he was a growing blind spot who showed he had info they want kept quiet so couldn't have him disrupt their precious paths.

He could have easily exposed the corruption going on and got rid of most of the red tape, then worked with the genuine heroes to get the job done. Instead he is dropping hints at the corruption and killing everyone himself. It's a huge shift in methods. And there are actually a huge number of heroes that actually mean well, it's just that two out of three of the heavy hitters are corrupt as hell. But Legend is a good dude who was genuinely horrified when Alex told him the truth and immediately moved to verify it. Most of the prt are good people, with pockets of assholes. Snip them out and they can get to work.

Worm doesn't really have genuine heroes Dauntless is pretty much the only hero who is a good guy and he just doesn't have the authority for anything and isn't worth working with the messes of the bay's teams. Exposing the corruption also isn't really enough or going to work since as a reminder after Alexandria got unmasked and news about vial capes and some of Cauldron's atrocities got out her civ id got removed from being chief director only for it to turn out she was still in charge and calling all the shots which allowed her to take over how they handled Taylor's surrender.

When were the PRT made aware of Shadow Stalker's misdeeds?

They aren't since Al wiped out the Abb's capes, most of the empire's and captured a few others the bay is the only team with excess members so Sophia got transferred to another team to cover for the case 53s quitting. The prt don't know about her misdeeds because the bay's team have been deliberately avoiding looking too closely because of their need for manpower and in canon would only learn when Regent posted the contents of her civilian phone she's dumb enough to go around in costume with despite it having a ton of stuff about bullying Taylor on it.
 
Cauldron tried to kill him because he was a growing blind spot who showed he had info they want kept quiet so couldn't have him disrupt their precious paths.

Yeah see the problem with that is, it was so incredibly stupid I honestly suspect shard fuckery or master effect.

Cauldron is actually fairly restrained when it comes to killing non S class threats, they give a fair amount of warnings, and even de power vial capes that ignore them before resorting to killing them.

Its why its so weird for me that they decided to IMMIDEATLY. choose to kill the guy. Sure he was becoming harder to path and it was the last place were they could reliably path him, but they could have just as easily opened communications with him or heck try to kidnap him, he was not nearly as strong as he is right now and his thinker power is clearly strong, so why kill him without atleast figuring out how his power works or how he got that info.

Another thing that is weird is that they are supposed to be hands off in BB, they dont actively make things worse there, but they make no efforts in helping either, so him messing around in BB would not warrant them stepping in.

The way I see it, it was either shard crap, master or something forced by the author to make Cauldron an enemy.
 
With the, at this point, absurd amount investment points in the truck, what can it do? So like durability, speed, power...etc?
 
Can I just say, after all the grimderpness and unnecessary work and gaia-induced bullshit Alec's had to go through so far, just...

Man... Just, fuckin' Man.

I hope after this is all over and he either solves all the outstanding problems or just snaps and omnicasts Meteor on this whole hell-universe, that he gets a nice, long, extremely well-deserved vacation with Kirby to destress - or, failing that, gets to give Terra five across the face for slapping this bullshit onto him on top of his already stressful situation, without any kind of consent or even just basic decency.
 
The way I see it, it was either shard crap, master or something forced by the author to make Cauldron an enemy.
My guess is on shard crap - Fortuna's host to and near-blindly trusts* the instructions of The Eye, which has a much bigger big picture view than almost any other Shard and presumably got the heeby jeebys around our lovable and increasingly inscrutable void dragon - so I figure Fortuna followed its instructions to go straight for the killshot. Which, as we all know, backfired spectacularly and now The Eye can't see jack shit where Al's concerned.

*(as I understand it, as the original timeline of Worm and Ward progressed it eventually reached the point where it took her over and was just puppetting her body around)
 
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He could have easily exposed the corruption going on and got rid of most of the red tape, then worked with the genuine heroes to get the job done. Instead he is dropping hints at the corruption and killing everyone himself. It's a huge shift in methods. And there are actually a huge number of heroes that actually mean well, it's just that two out of three of the heavy hitters are corrupt as hell. But Legend is a good dude who was genuinely horrified when Alex told him the truth and immediately moved to verify it. Most of the prt are good people, with pockets of assholes. Snip them out and they can get to work.
There's a LOT of cultural inertia in play. It's been 30 years since parahumans came onto the scene, during which shards have been running rampant, and most of which Cauldron has been pushing towards excessive corruption on all levels of both government and elsewhere.

The entirety of US!Bet culture is corrupt, with lots of momentum pushing the corruption forward.

Al does not want to spend the bulk of the next century trying to counteract that, nor should he; he's got his own problems and his own world to help, and it's far less disgustingly incompetent and festeringly corrupt than this one. Plus, any success he might make will immediately revert to more awfulness once he leaves, even if every Scion and Eden shard is dead.

Remember, the local branch of the multiverse is designed to be actively resistant to any and all positive changes. It's absolutely crawling with entities flying around between solar systems, infecting and infesting them, and making good people bad and bad people worse. Even if Al kills Scion and all of its pieces, there are still uncountable octillions of others out there ready to pounce. The fact that there's any non-shard life at all left in the local multiverse actually makes no sense whatsoever.

Honestly, I think the first omake had it right; he should save what people he can and vaporize the rest.

The Wormverse is just that awful.

I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for things to have gone the way they have because it's kind of required to have a story at all.
 
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Yeah see the problem with that is, it was so incredibly stupid I honestly suspect shard fuckery or master effect.

Cauldron is actually fairly restrained when it comes to killing non S class threats, they give a fair amount of warnings, and even de power vial capes that ignore them before resorting to killing them.

Its why its so weird for me that they decided to IMMIDEATLY. choose to kill the guy. Sure he was becoming harder to path and it was the last place were they could reliably path him, but they could have just as easily opened communications with him or heck try to kidnap him, he was not nearly as strong as he is right now and his thinker power is clearly strong, so why kill him without atleast figuring out how his power works or how he got that info.

Another thing that is weird is that they are supposed to be hands off in BB, they dont actively make things worse there, but they make no efforts in helping either, so him messing around in BB would not warrant them stepping in.

The way I see it, it was either shard crap, master or something forced by the author to make Cauldron an enemy.

Stupidity is the norm for them and they aren't that hands off in the bay when you consider Gregor, Newter, Trainwreck, Coil, Battery, Gallant, Triumph and the 5 or 6 vials Skidmark retrieved from a rich family's house. Heck in canon we see Contessa herself go to the bay to save Manton from Legend.

My guess is on shard crap - Fortuna's host to and near-blindly trusts* the instructions of The Eye, which has a much bigger big picture view than almost any other Shard and presumably got the heeby jeebys around our lovable and increasingly inscrutable void dragon - so I figure Fortuna followed its instructions to go straight for the killshot. Which, as we all know, backfired spectacularly and now The Eye can't see jack shit where Al's concerned.

*(as I understand it, as the original timeline of Worm and Ward progressed it eventually reached the point where it took her over and was just puppetting her body around)

It's a thing that happened in ward where because of the failing network and multiple cracks in reality which Teacher made worse 2nd triggers would go wrong and they'd become titans which ran the full spectrum from the parahuman is fully in charge to the shard is fully in charge with between points such as the shard is in charge but acting on the parahuman's wishes such as going after their enemies. Contessa's problem was that use of powers especially one's that are actively used and not passive made the cracks worse and spread towards the source so when they happened and she was near 3 they surged towards her as she kept trying to path her way out leading to her becoming one with her shard in charge.

Titans as a whole are fairly strong but far weaker than endbringers. Each is fairly large and does have a high brute rating between the durability and regeneration but beyond that it varies. Some got their powers flat out boosted like Victor who could leave people gibbering, drooling husks very quickly and even short exposure for only a few seconds left people with noticeable hits to skills including walking. Others tho didn't get their powers boosted but got access to a few other powers their shards might have given them.

It is worth pointing out tho the real problem with them was how many there were along with other problems like Ziz and the machine army meaning they couldn't muster large numbers to fight them but were still able to hold all of them off and they even managed to punt Victor's deep into a chasm in shardspace it couldn't escape from and there was another one they came really close to killing because it'd taken a ton of damage and was seriously slowing down including in regeneration speed but sadly Ziz atked one of their bases so they had to pull back to deal with that.
 
With the girl being prepare for reassignment to Texas, Shadow Stalker was actually being forced to sit down and go back through

:eek: Uh-oh! Belated realization!

Sophia Hess moving to Texas means Emma Barnes will likely want to do one last "prank" on Taylor Hebert, to prove that she's a Predator.

And even they don't do one last "prank", Emma Barnes will lose what little sanity she has left when she finds out Sophia is moving to another state.

The agony of Emma counting down the days to Sophia's departure could be trigger event material. Anxiety over social isolation is good for Master triggers, and I can picture Emma as a Heartbreaker-lite Master who'd refuse to let Sophia leave her.

On the other hand, problems without solutions that take place over long periods is good for Tinker triggers (YES I LOVE TINKER POWERS!!!). Controller Tinkers trigger from isolation, detachment, or depression, and end up specializing in drones or mind control effects. Magi Tinkers "have deep internal dilemmas and problems of self," and end up specializing in self-improvement.
 
:eek: Uh-oh! Belated realization!

Sophia Hess moving to Texas means Emma Barnes will likely want to do one last "prank" on Taylor Hebert, to prove that she's a Predator.

And even they don't do one last "prank", Emma Barnes will lose what little sanity she has left when she finds out Sophia is moving to another state.

The agony of Emma counting down the days to Sophia's departure could be trigger event material. Anxiety over social isolation is good for Master triggers, and I can picture Emma as a Heartbreaker-lite Master who'd refuse to let Sophia leave her.

On the other hand, problems without solutions that take place over long periods is good for Tinker triggers (YES I LOVE TINKER POWERS!!!). Controller Tinkers trigger from isolation, detachment, or depression, and end up specializing in drones or mind control effects. Magi Tinkers "have deep internal dilemmas and problems of self," and end up specializing in self-improvement.
Can Emma even trigger?
 
Mini-Omake PRT calculations

Exert from analysis of unknown parahuman hereby named Wyrm:

[...] Parahuman hereby named Wyrm has resilience above what missile bombardment can accomplish, not only his mover rating would render most conventional forms of bombardment ineffective his impact on the lunar surface produced energy in between 50 - 500 kg of TNT and proceed to continue moving without any apparent damage, meaning standard ordinance for ultra brutes may not possess any effectiveness even at direct hits, as his resistance bypasses all artillery and missile batteries currently within the PRT arsenal.
I think you mean kt here, not kg.
 
I wonder what would happen if Al gave his mega-Stranger power to Dragon for a while.

Would every Thinker on the planet suddenly be rendered completely unable to function? Would she be destroyed due to not being able to perceive herself?
 
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