He can affect everything connected magically, psychically, physically, and metaphysically to anything he targets with a spell or other such effect via chaining them. He absolutely can affect every instance of a being throughout the omniverse, else he couldn't have affected all of those beings through Constantine, including other versions of Constantine.

Gods aren't immune to that.

Al can totally affect gods with his magic. He's done it before, up to and including killing them.
If that was true, then he affected all iterations of asmodues, satan, lucifer, and those gods in other multiverses through their own divine oversouls, and there is no evidence whatsoever he managed to do so. In other words, Entanglement stopped at the below-multiversal level, before it could affect the oversouls, who probably just casually blocked it from affecting themselves.
Your supposition is that it affects the OMNIVERSE, which means it affects the gods like that in the stories THAT I OR YOU WOULD WRITE. Which is untrue, so obviously it's just within the stricture of the one universe. Note that this story has no effect on Canon DC, so obviously the magic is reality-restricted.
It's plenty strong, but not that strong.
 
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So I understand Al is upset she sent him to Earth Bet, but...

Early in the conversation they establish she is sending him to Earth Bet, which he glosses over as they talk about the Gamer System for it. So he knew he was going, he just I guess hoped she would forget about sending him? Or was just assuming that he would help her set it up and that was it, even though she said he could think of the time on Earth Bet as a vacation...

Usually he would argue for some kind of compensation first, but its probably the stress he was under that caused him to drop the ball...
 
--Creator?-- a voice asked directly against his mind. Looking to the side, Alec caught sight of what almost looked like a large, iron ball with limbs and an iron helmet for a head. One of his iron golems, made to maintain the demi-plane. The one talking to him had the number '5' painted on its chest. --Are you well?--

"No, Johnny," Alec admitted, his words slow and carefully enunciated. The dragon raised one claw and covered his crying eyes with his forearm.

"I'm really not."

Really a bit behind on this obviously since I am just reading through this story...but Johnny Five...Brings back so many nostalgic 80s memories.

Number 5 is ALIVE!
 
"If Earth Bet doesn't have the power I need to make things right?" Alec asked as he reached within himself, brushing past the foul, wretched thing that Terra had stapled to his soul. He found a wellspring of energy, the impossible made possible, his will made manifest. Gently grasping a tendril of that power, he wove it into a form he knew like the back of his hand.

Yellow light turned green as Alec willed the Regeneration spell to take form, to settle into Mimi's insensate body.

The broken woman gasped as a spark, a light, returned to her eyes.

"Then I'll reach beyond the boundaries of Earth Bet."


View: https://youtu.be/zvwYCbBWxT8?si=iGpYDkXtccO9v4WU

"You're not allowed to do that..."

"The Hogfather can. The Hogfather gives presents. There's no better present than a future."
 
Containment Foam! Now with added nanotubes!
"The cargo bay here is lined with containment foam sprayers," Dragon explained as numerous panels opened up throughout the room and nozzles poked out, larger than the ones in Dragon's suit. "Once fully secured, I intended on continuing my line of questioning."
"Huh." Apollyon held out one hand, palm up. "Could I have a bit of foam, please?"

If Dragon knew how to fabricate eyebrows for her suits, she would have cocked one. "Wait, you want me to spray containment foam on your hand? You know you're not getting your hand back after that, right?"

The man and/or dragon shrugged. "It's fine. There's something I want to try."

"Okay. Don't say I didn't warn you." She opened a nozzle on one palm and did as he asked. The foam rapidly expanded, quickly hardening around his hand and looking as though he'd somehow gotten it caught in a giant scoop of vanilla ice-cream.

She watched in disbelief as he brought the ball of hardened foam up to his mouth and bit a chunk right out of it!

He smacked his lips a bit, shrugged, and took another bite. "Odd. Tastes a bit like eating titanium, mixed with some carbon nanotubes. A bit gritty. But overall, not bad."

Dragon, artificial intelligence and one of the greatest tinkers in the world of Earth Bet, hadn't even known she could Blue Screen.
 
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He smacked his lips a bit, shrugged, and took another bite. "Odd. Tastes a bit like eating titanium, mixed with some carbon nanotubes. A bit gritty. But overall, not bad."
Has he been spending time with The Family? As that is something Saurial would say.
 
he's been spending more time with MATTER-EATER LAD, hasn't he?

i'm imagining him using that ability more.

FTFY.

Meanwhile in the 31st century:
MATTER-EATER LAD: "See? I told you my power would be devastating in the wrong hands!"
Chameleon Boy: (rolls eyes) :eyeroll:

On the other hand, Matter-Eater Lad might be torn that the only person who doesn't look down on his lame superpower is Alchemist, who Saturn Girl described as one of history's greatest criminals.

"The cargo bay here is lined with containment foam sprayers," Dragon explained as numerous panels opened up throughout the room and nozzles poked out, larger than the ones in Dragon's suit. "Once fully secured, I intended on continuing my line of questioning."
He smacked his lips a bit, shrugged, and took another bite. "Odd. Tastes a bit like eating titanium, mixed with some carbon nanotubes. A bit gritty. But overall, not bad."
 
I'd like to collate a few posts I've made (some on our esteemed motherland-site), to show why I absolutely loved the Worm part of this sidestory, most of which can be found by looking up the words "Caluldron Delenda Est"

The problem isn't that Cauldron tried.

It's that half a dozen people got a god-machine's corpse to study and they only got one scientist on board. Who promptly went mad and joined the S9.

All they've visibly done is aggrandize power unto themselves, and plod along, uneducated, throwing cerebrospinal smoothie at the wall. Not a single person in Cauldron has finished college!

Maybe
they've 'increased stability' - In America. Four Americans decided to prioritize America, who'da thunk it. And yet some other parts of the world seem to be doing alright despite them. Europe and India haven't gone to Fist of the North Star hell like Africa or China.

But Alexandria and Contessa (and Numberman) are steering government policy and manipulating the public subconcious. (Why nobody's just sniped certain capes is explicitly Contessa making the few desperate attempts fail.) Without consent from the governed! And that's treason.

Moreover it's stifling actual creative solutions to the parahuman problem. It's all top-down. One could argue Cauldron is an Eden plot.

It's not that Cauldron doesn't do their best. It's that their best is (perhaps practically and certainly morally) worse than doing nothing at all.

<...>

No. In Canon, they didn't unshackle Dragon, <spoilers>. Instead Alexandria shoved illegal orders down her throat. They preferred an obedient slave to a competent asset.

They demonstrably can't be trusted with the fate of the world: Only when Contessa got K.O.'d did Khepri appear. That is the smoking gun that PtV is a sneaky little loyalist.

Another one that I feel either inspired some of this story or may as well have:

If Cauldron didn't exist Brockton Bay wouldn't have been a shithole (in particular).
There would have been no NEPEA-5 that drove so many medical and industrial Tinkers to villainy.
No revolving door prison for villains, or help with
cashflow.
The amazing vigilante Barrett .50 Cal would've cleaned up Jack Slash and Heartbreaker and half a dozen other jackasses.
(This is canon, by the way. According to Wildbow, a significant part of Contessa's job is to keep people from just picking up a rifle and
dealing with supervillains. Presumably by giving the grieving parent/spouse in question an 'accident')

Cauldron isn't helping keep society up, they're actively tearing society down from their thrones.
That's what Worm shows and
only what worm shows. If Wildbow shows me a red sky with ten-thousand words and then tells me it's purple outside the story with half a dozen words... : /

<...>

During Golden Morning, the Case 53 Breakout happened. PtV was briefly neutralized. (By Manta Guy or something.)

Then and only
then did the protagonists improvise Khepri and the subsequent Stall/Eden/Drive plan.
Would Khepri have even happened if Path to Victory was active at that time?

So yeah. I don't like Cauldron very much, both in a Watsonian and Doylist sense. To be more explicit on my Watsonian stance:

Just do nothing.
Let people live and die on their own merits.


The case against Cauldron:
They aggregated power unto themselves by:

-Abandoning the rest of the planet. (Who are plodding along more or less 'the same but more' as they were in the 80's)

-Subverting the U.S. government response to capes (do you really think something like the PRT wouldn't have been set up without Costa-Brown?)

-Abusing the Chief Director chair and PtV to prevent groups like the S9 and Heartbreaker from being just fucking shot! Ostensibly to farm triggers, but I don't bite. Triggers from direct contact are a drop in the bucket. The real reason is to break the American people's morale, so any given yokel on the street triggers faster. (That's what you'd call 'selling one's soul' to 'win' - You've already lost the thing you were defending.)

-Their 'experiment' with Brockton Bay, deliberately starving the place of aid. That's cruel and unnecesary. There's no point to it, no real data to obtain, it's just cruelty for cruelty's sake. That's what scientists call mengele-esque.

-And then there's the case 53's. The only arguable 'good' they did, yoinking doomed people and experimenting on them.
With not a single actual scientist present. Why? Because if they tried to tap the scientific community for help, they'd have to share.
"But what if Scion-" Scion didn't notice or care that Eidolon was running around hooked up to his wife's CPU shard! He didn't notice Dragon! One more roll of the dice, to get people who actually know what they're doing? No. They just didn't want to give up being special.


Their hubris and selfishness played right into Eden's hand, becoming a better conflict generator than an awake Eden could ever be. They're not adults. They're like rich kids running daddy's company, but with alien weaponry.


The only way the Wormverse is ever getting better is if Alexandria and Contessa are killed.

Eidolon is a jackass who'd eventually get himself killed by provoking some wildcard or other without Fortuna looking over his shoulder.
Legend's fine. By the end of canon he's just about ready to burn what's left of Cauldron to the ground himself, after all.
Number Man can only do what he does (singlehandedly making supervillainy finanically viable) because Cauldron's providing him internet access in their unreachable lair dimension. Kick him out on his ass and he's playing on the same level as people like Coil and Accord. Tough, but not untouchable.
Doctor Mother isn't. All she brings to the table is hubris. What a check to Agent influence she was.
The Cauldron base crew are just mutilated victims.

Contessa and Alexandria, the hand and fist of Cauldron, must first be killed before anyone can try and improve things without getting hit by sudden 'bad luck', the PRT PR machine, or just a bullet or fist through a Door.

This is why Cauldron must be destroyed.


Chaos is preferable to certain doom silently obeying PtV, Inviolate and their hangers-on.
Death is preferable to the stifling control imposed by PtV, Inviolate and their hangers-on.

<...>

Taylor and everyone in Bet America have been prevented from fixing their lives by a handful of lucky jackasses who were in the right place at the wrong time and grabbed power, deciding only they could be trusted with the fate of the world.

Kill them all.

Kill them all indeed. Harvest Taylor was a Breaker:Yes Gamer and her solution was to bludgeon Earth Bet into submission. In the main story, we've seen Alchemist obliquely refer to her a few times as a benchmark. Especially fun because despite her overpowered Gamer abilities, Harvest didn't have Multitasking. Or Q.A. at all.

Some more original thought:

Cauldron Delenda Est - The entire organization is puppets of the Path to Victory shard, and arguably Eden showing why she's the Thinker from the grave. The sheer depravity they get up to, supposedly for the greater good... But actually blindly following a Power/Agent/Shard that killed its last user is infuriating. They're evil and they know it, or they'dve told Legend about the human experiments. Even more, Path to Victory is demonstrably still angling for Conflict. How much of Earth Bet lacking recognizabe names in world politics is Ziz and how much of it is Contessa?

To be blunt, did the Simurgh kill Barack Obama? (and thousands of others) Or has Earth Bet just always had different people but the same history?

One more, a short one, to go full Doylist:

How is maltheism and violent iconoclasm in general the only moral choice in Wildbow universes? Hnngh, Spinrad Detector is going off.

It's the Evangelion problem: Tragedy collapses into farce on second glance, highlighting the squandered potential of a cast of interesting characters.

Which is why stories like this exist. Admittedly a low bar: Different is better.

So what did I mean by "Spinrad detector" hm?
Beside being a gorgeous pun which I want taken up by the fanfic community at large, I meant extremism. Wildbow's politics colors everything in the Wormverse. If the only logical response to a fictional setting is mass cruelty, you're being fed a line.

That's why Worm is bad and all its fanfics are good. Y'all are rebuking extremist thought.

...I did ask myself why I hated Cauldron so much. Good Thinkers use their abilities on themselves.
 
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While I do broadly agree Cauldron sucks I would point out they did have more than 1 scientist because they had a whole facility where Madison is on another earth which Ziz then atked with Haywire's tech and 1 of the scientists got killed in front of the travellers (tho personally in that situation I probably would have rolled the dice and taken one of them myself).

QAylor also was something Ziz had been setting up for a while and Contessa was still active but away when it actually happened.

Legend does also suck in the confrontation that killed Hero he gave the Siberian a civilian to eat to keep them there while the others arrived. He later let Madcap pick Battery as his probation officer despite her not liking him and him hassling her. He also learned a lot of what Cauldron got up to and still defended them when revealed at Echdina by lying and claiming they were good guys. He also went on to be one of the 3 big and main Wardens so is responsible for all their failures and atrocities.
 
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