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That one the anime played straight. Ash works to keep charmander and charizard alive a few times and each time he keeps panicking at the flame getting lower and lower.
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I mean Christmas was a thing so... not to mention there being regular animals in the wild (let's be honest, a snorlax could probably eat them all in a day). I mean if water was such an issue, there's no way ash's charmander/evolvutions would ever fight something that knows a water move.
Yea, but the anime has a plot of plot holes and stuff, especially in the early seasons. Ash instantly believing that the fire would go out causing the charmander to die... he is so gullible. Ash doing all that helps show us what he's like. But I doubt that if a their fire goes out, that it. Though they probably stick together as charmanders to make sure they're warm. Might live in groups sk this doesn't happen.
I mean Christmas was a thing so... not to mention there being regular animals in the wild (let's be honest, a snorlax could probably eat them all in a day). I mean if water was such an issue, there's no way ash's charmander/evolvutions would ever fight something that knows a water move.
'Hard enough' (a brock SI) over on qq recently offered an explanation for that by saying that a pokedex has all kinds of info and you can set it to only give the carefully researched stuff... but Ash finds that boring and has his give him anecdotal, folktale type info.
I think it makes sense that the 'dex has that kind of stuff (If only because sometimes it might be true) and that 10 year olds would find it more interesting. That said, I don't know why they programmed it to be able to only give probably-false legendary info without anything else.
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So...PokeDex=Wikipedia, but 90+% of editors/contributors are tweens?
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QQ is just a storage space. It's on and actively discussed on both SB and SV.
Good to know. I came across it on qq so thats where I read it and while I figured it might be on sv and sb, I hadn't seen it and typing that out at work had already taken ages so I didn't check. Thanks for letting me know.
Something that I've come across in a Pokemon thread is that, apparently, in the anime the entries were written by a professor who specifically wrote bull for the Pokemon he didn't know enough about.
Westwood V "He is esteemed for his work on the Pokédex, which he wrote the entries for. Professor Westwood admitted to Ash later in the episode, though, that he made up some of the information in the Pokédex. Westwood doesn't travel much, and merely relies on reports for his Pokédex data." From bulbapedia.
EDIT: there's also this from the same source, "In the dub, Westwood is stated to have outright programmed the Pokédex himself, as opposed to just writing its entries."
Westwood V "He is esteemed for his work on the Pokédex, which he wrote the entries for. Professor Westwood admitted to Ash later in the episode, though, that he made up some of the information in the Pokédex. Westwood doesn't travel much, and merely relies on reports for his Pokédex data." From bulbapedia.
EDIT: there's also this from the same source, "In the dub, Westwood is stated to have outright programmed the Pokédex himself, as opposed to just writing its entries."
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Make's sense, if you were given a basic report based on info taken by a bunch os teenagers/kids then told to make an entry, you'd try to put the more important info first. Even if it's later found to be true.
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There is a better Greninja to use in memes...There's a particular pokemon that's very disappointed no one remembered him for the ninja party.
Seriously, it's one of the most popular pokemon ever, how did no one think of Greninja when talking about ninja pokemon?
I'd like to point out that anime wise, the pokedex has a very good scanner(it can scan DNA at range and everything in the first model) on it and is regularly hooked up to the local net in pokecenters for data downloading reasons. Professor Oak seems to be the first one to seriously document a lot of things about pokemon and actually scientifically test them 'knowledge' bits. Professor Oak is a protagonist according to his backstory. Time travel nonsense and all.
Anime Pokemon is going through something of an industrial revolution/renaissance and Oak and Bill are pretty much dragging everyone else into it. You also have to realize that a lot of those entries are 'common knowledge' ones. Oak is apparently the driving force behind actual serious science being done in universe. Remember he is the one dealing with Ash's team when not in rotation.
Seriously, Sabrina is so neglected before her powers even get involved that Ash literally ends up dead for a while just to get her the ability to laugh again. Sabrina is effectively raised by psychic wolves and telepathically scanning social cues off other people. Possibly since she was like 7. Its hard for me to think her issues (anime wise) are actually her fault. Having to deal with all the expectations on her and getting no adult help broke her a lot. Never mind Ash's solution was to get a ghost type to show her the way forward.
Sabrina is basically Brock without siblings and less support. Remember that Brock was a gym leader because his dad dumped all his siblings on him and took off. Only after Ash defeats him and convinces him to do his job as a parent does Brock get to got out into the world. Sabrina's dad got spooked by her power and basically left her to be raised by psychic pokemon and run a gym.
Of the other gyms:
-One is often closed as the leader is far too busy running Team Rocket.
-Blaine will actively try to kill your pokemon with fire as an object lesson.
-The plant one is gated by an elitist snob brat who actively gates who can even challenge the gym at all. Ash had to actively crossdress and lie about his identity to even get to take the gym challenge.
-Surge is a bit of a burn out, but is at least doing his job. So little fault there.
-Misty has her sisters covering, but aren't really that good at it. At least her family is functional.
-Koga is the only one actually able to be a parent and gym leader at the same time.
Basically much of the gym challenge in Kanto is a crapshoot. Lets face it. Crazy Sabrina is better than Blaine realistically. That says a lot about things.
Fair points.
In a world where power can manifest in true and tangible forms, Sabrina seems to be a case of too much power and too little direction in her youth. It was stated that she actively cultivated her strength, not that she did much constructive with it aside from fill a Gym with her lessers and creating an echo chamber of sycophants (That is an exaggeration, please take it with a grain of salt. She reinforced her own situation in finding other psychics to train alongside her who all proved to be less gifted.)
If I can get far enough, I have special plans for Blaine and Giovanni.
Erika, though, I think I recall that Ash offended her to start with? Sure, how she handled it wasn't appropriate but I kind of don't expect much of that in the early world of Pokemon.
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This all feels very much like modern feel good quackery
Have you seen any nature program at all.
Eggs are not sentient beings.
The thing that hatches from it may become one at some point in the future.
Now, it is just a high value protein pack that all the critters just love.
Complaining about the sailor throwing an egg overboard like it was a war crime is just messed up.
It may survive. Or get eaten by something as a delicious pick me up.
Just like can happen to every other egg in the wild.
What I do have a problem with is the sailor trying to do it again once Al had brought it back up.
Once he had intentionally thrown it overboard the first time, he had relinquished claim and it stopped being his/the ships property. When Al took it, it established a new claim. At that point, it stopped being something the sailor had authority over.
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Hence why one of the sailors said this-
And yeah, it is a bit of modern feel good quackery.
Al admits that he has to adapt to the world he's currently stuck in. A world that has different morals to go with its very different... Everything.
If he didn't do something stupid to clash with that, showing concern for something that the locals consider normal or acceptable, I could've just used an OC that was native to the setting.
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Wasn't his "offense" saying the "perfume" she sprayed for him smelt disgusting, even though it was actually the scent of a Gloom?
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As much as the anime is a key point for how a lot of people see the gym leaders and other associated characters the games also give some other neat views and interpretations. I'm currently almost finished with SoulSilver and near the end you can go out and find the different gym leaders around the regions on different days and times to get their numbers to rechallenge them and you can find them in some interesting situations. Like Falkner and Janine bragging at each other about who's dad is the coolest or Erika and Jasmine talking about clothes that Jasmine could wear for a contest or even just Brock hanging out at Diglett cave for some reason I forget. Sabrina has been pretty cool about me calling and challenging her multiple times when she's free to grind up my teams lvls before I go face Red. Oh also Blue is the superior Viridian gym leader to Giovanni just saying.
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Ash is a kid who grew up in Pallet with minimal Polution and minimal high end products. He is also shown by our standards to have an amazing sense of smell, a good deal of strength, and to be durable. I would mention reflexes but that is miss more than hit.
As such he, a country kid barely used to polution, is brought inside a perfume parlour. Have you ever been inside a perfume parlour? Let me share a secret. <.< ~ >.> It stinks to high fucking heaven. They do not have just one scent, they have all the scents in a cloying disgusting mess. It is gawd awful.
Now to mark the real sin of the show that they brushed off and Ash did not react too. Profesionals spray perfume on scent sticks, or napkins, or in the air. Erika's empoyees sprayed that shit into Ash's face. As someone who works retail and had to haul a cople of different people to the eye-wash station because of that exact same level of dumbassery, I will always view Erika in the wrong. Even if Ash was a petulant child for that show.
Early pokemon was bad man. The indigo league was a total clusterfuck.
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Kid lifted a Larvitar and treated it as the baby it appears by spinning with it held up. It weighs 159 pounds. His reflex's might be a crap shoot but at age 10 he could lift 159 lbs.
It's canon that pokemon can be aware of what's going on around them before they hatch; see: Ash's Larvitar (bulbapedia link)
Now, realistically, there's got to be some kind of cut-off point on that, before which they are, indeed, not sentient beings. But that could well be before the egg was laid.
On the other paw, nothing says this has to be a fully-canon-compliant pokemon world - much of the pokemon lore is a bit silly. And even if it is a fully-canon-compliant pokemon world, there's nothing that says that every pokemon is going to be aware of what's going on around them before they hatch. So plenty of room for the author to go whatever direction they want to with this.
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Also, lack of oxygen and toxic type-overexposure could have caused brain damage to the pokemon inside the egg.
Has Al hit it with healing magic, yet?
Has Al hit it with healing magic, yet?
Been there, done that, it's the biggest reason why I always loathed large department stores in malls as a child - they always put the stench section right at the mall entrance.
And as a child, I had that exact thing happen to me - twice. Both times, I responded by projectile vomiting over the counter and onto the idiot who sprayed me. Got to agree with you - perfume lady was the villain there.
I think it depends on which Pokedex. The anime one is usually more reasonable, but the in-game ones are more for the player.
Then again, I can count the number of pokemon episodes I've watched on the fingers of one hand, and I've only played Pokemon Yellow on an original Game Boy.