Metal Gear Solid V: Chronicles of Outer Heaven (MGS/Valkyria Chronicles)
- Thread starter konamikode
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Mostly good, one FUCKING TERRIBLE idea.
Doesn't matter if he's good at this, he is not psychologically equipped for it. His newfound willingness to actually cooperate with us and be a reasonable person will not hold up under that kind of stress. I don't know if he'd actually turn on us, or if he'd break down because he wants to but can see that THIS IS NOT THE TIME, but either one would be exceedingly bad.
Dream Logic
An offseason swallow
- Location
- In transit
@Cjdavis103 I don't think it's fair to say we're not properly equipped for this because while this isn't our element I don't think any load out would have a good match up. Standard infantry don't have the firepower, armor has a tough time in the slugging match against actual Metal Gears, Conventional arms would probably require us to deploy in full, air may not have the staying power and MG's could be turned against us.
It's going to be tough but I really do think we've actually got a good set up for this. We're one of the best possible load outs for ending this quickly via infiltration so that we can limit the growth potential of our foe and secure those reinforcements.
It's going to be tough but I really do think we've actually got a good set up for this. We're one of the best possible load outs for ending this quickly via infiltration so that we can limit the growth potential of our foe and secure those reinforcements.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
It's on the list of concerns but currently it ranks lower then the zombie apocalypse. We'll get back to it.
Because these zombies are different apparently. These ones can sometimes run while most survive style zombies can only shamble.Until further notice I'm going to be considering them the bad running zombie type and ignoring survive altogether.
Which is good because I don't wanna pay attention to it.
Also in a practical standpoint fire is pronto spreading and that will make our life a lot harder if it does.
Also The bigger things( not sure what to call them but let's go with Hulks for now) are going to laugh at fire.
Those Hulks are what killed any confidence I had going in as things like that are damn hard to deal with even in low numbers
DragoLord19D
I ate a TARDIS but I'm still hungry!
- Location
- Ma Treasure Hoard (I ain't tellin' where it's at!)
Anyway I kinda want a touching scene with a Kinda-Father and son moment where John leaves him in charge of protecting their home and his men, Eli snarks back and as the diamond dogs fly towards their destiny Eli discovers he's... afraid... his father may not come home...
I don't think this is the kind of warfare they usually train people for...
Imperial Helldog
410,757,864,530 DEAD LIZARDS
At the very least, they can keep local forces organized and in contact while calling in support.
Fezzes
Knight of King Stannis Baratheon
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
Agreed. And what... I can't remember who said it, but they said it, we can provide a really solid backbone to supporting forces. Even if we'd gone Enthusiastic, all we've done is sacrifice our uber-elite backbone for weight of numbers, and we'd still be drastically outnumbered. Meticulous is the best pick for this.
I'm not sure what everyone's going on about with us training up the Mujahideen to be better. This is Day One. From the looks of it, we're going more or less day by day. I don't see us training anyone to do anything in a single day, or even a few days. Not when we're also under the pressure of needing those people fighting rather than being trained.
EDIT: What Helldog just said above me is a much more reasonable expectation of what the Combat Advisors will accomplish.
- Location
- Freedom Land
A few hours is enough to try and find anyone else in the city who knows how to shoot a gun and help set up a firing ling while organizing the rest of the defenders.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
....Mother fucker. I just realized, we're definitely going to be taking somekind of casualties from this, and that's just going to make me want to take the Medical Center Upgrade come turn 4. Damn it.
But hey atleast our Ballistic Vests will carry their weight in this world.
But hey atleast our Ballistic Vests will carry their weight in this world.
Imperial Helldog
410,757,864,530 DEAD LIZARDS
All that research for my OC on advisors in Vietnam paid off.
Dezron
In the Omnissiah we trust !
- Location
- Poland
@konamikode could you describe defense lines in the city ? Becouse i'm currently making plan for them and that could help .
Btw do we have any mortars ?
Btw do we have any mortars ?
Broken.
Maybe? Armor should be lower for both due to cost, but by my (limited) understanding, the Nanite Swarm/Thing is from even further in the future of a Metal Gear timeline...meaning it's probably Plasma. On the flip side of things, Metallic Archaea might be our Silver Bullet seeing as CIPHER just completely said 'fuck that, I'm out' and ceased all research and use of related Parasite/Archaea technology following the XOF coup in favor of info-control and the newly inspired Nano-tech (kept some stuff like Gene Therapy and such of course, but no more out-right Super-Powers like Gene's hypnotic voice other then the pre-existing oddities that came to them). Which means...all this future stuff could be super-screwed by a vector deliberately left unexplored by the Patriots, the group that set the ball rolling on pretty much all their Mil-tech.
At the same time though...I'm kinda worried. Part of the swarm control is crystalline after all and nanites aren't crystals...but metals are, and there is literally one and only one non-carbon based life-form around. I don't think it's a coincidence, and even if it somehow is, it's still a risk of catalyzing some mutation or other in the Archaea... because you know we've got literally no info on how they react and mutate due to being completely different from all other carbon life, only that they're similar to Archaea bacteria, and thus might change rapidly and randomly like all bacteria species do.
This is Metal Gear. 'Rationality' may be universal and unique to every individual, but logic certainly isn't.
Oh, I don't doubt that they would eventually. It's more a matter of time really. The only things that can be scrambled fast enough are air assets, and the process of doing so involves enough people and complications that we're unlikely to get random soldiers going AWOL. And getting organizational support means the public making up it's mind and then bitching enough it happens (too long by far), or higher ups go ahead and support it...which is unlikely because they don't like Big Boss, don't trust him, and don't trust the other Super-Power to not try and take advantage somehow if they do extend...which means more waiting to gather info for themselves and make treaties/threats with each other to feel safe.
The only way to really bypass that is jumping ahead and asking for help, as well as providing sufficiently clear and scary evidence that no one can deny or feel the need to delay for confirmation. Hence why it's a gamble.
DragoLord19D
I ate a TARDIS but I'm still hungry!
- Location
- Ma Treasure Hoard (I ain't tellin' where it's at!)
And later, after the MFING APOCALYPSE is canceled and the Diamond Dogs have vanished a new comic book series comes out...
- Location
- California
Too bad we don't have access to any ac 130's
Imperial Helldog
410,757,864,530 DEAD LIZARDS
Could just look up a map of Kandahar.
Defense lines are set up outside the city. And I don't think we need that level of micromanagement.
I believe mortars are included in supports platoons.
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Dr. Snark
Exactly As Planned...Probably
- Location
- Right where I want to be
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
So hey, I know Armageddon is happening and we're probably all going to die, but before that I think there's some things that really need to be pointed out that have changed on character sheets.
I think you can see the potential problem here.
Don't be alarmed, it's just Huey potentially developing a full-on split personality from what's been implied here. This is fine. Everything is fine. (Oh god, I think he's now even more of a potential problem than before if that's the case...)
That can't be good. No wait, actually given that we're literally facing Armageddon that could be very very good considering how fucked the situation is.
I think you can see the potential problem here.
Don't be alarmed, it's just Huey potentially developing a full-on split personality from what's been implied here. This is fine. Everything is fine. (Oh god, I think he's now even more of a potential problem than before if that's the case...)
That can't be good. No wait, actually given that we're literally facing Armageddon that could be very very good considering how fucked the situation is.
theflyingbiscuit
"Titanic neechan"
"Mr. President there seems to be an issue in Afghanistan."
"I am aware of the issue"
"The Soviets are fully prepared to use the appropriate measures to resolve the issue. Is there going to be a problem from NATO?"
"Considering the issue, NATO is willing to support it."
"Thank you"
The phone hangs up.
*Nuclear launch detected*
AN: Because the Soviets have more nukes then us and more willingness to use them.
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Fezzes
Knight of King Stannis Baratheon
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
I wish I'd done enough research on combat advisors to refer to it as 'all that'. It kind of got lost in the shuffle of all the wild googling on precisely how messed up Greece was at around this point.All that research for my OC on advisors in Vietnam paid off.
Just highlighting this so people can see it.
There aren't defense lines in the city, unless the entrance is called as technically in. If they hit the city, it's pretty much already game over for anyone still inside.
Vicjer
The One Who Knows Less Than Nothing
- Location
- The Space Between Spaces
Alright, time to whip up a goddamn amazing plan.
[ ] Ghor Province: Wormhole Assault
-[ ] Heroes Deployed *Must Select Big Boss*
--[ ] Eli.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] None.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] This will be a one-man sneaking mission. All gear will be OSP. Infiltrate enemy territory and shut down the Wormhole.
So you want to surpass Big Boss, Eli? Well here's your shot! A one-man sneaking mission to save the whole goddamn world! And you don't even get to bring any weapons with you! That's real Big Boss tier shit right there!
[ ] Battle For Kandahar: Hold the Road
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Mammal Pod.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] Sahelanthropus.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Throw the Big Fucking Robot at the enemy. Repeat until problem is solved.
I mean, what are the zombies gonna do about it?
[ ] Mass Evacuation: Afghanistan
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Code Talker.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] None.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Figure it out, old man.
… Eh. I'm sure he's got this.
[ ] Mother Base Defense
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Literally everyone else.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] Literally everyone else.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Laugh at whatever poor, unfortunate dumbass attacks Mother Base. Then obliterate them.
[ ] Arm the Child Soldiers
-[ ] Except Eli. He's on his own.
Mother Base will be defended. We've learned from Ground Zeroes.
As I'm sure you can all see, this plan is absolutely flawless.
[ ] Ghor Province: Wormhole Assault
-[ ] Heroes Deployed *
--[ ] Eli.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] None.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] This will be a one-man sneaking mission. All gear will be OSP. Infiltrate enemy territory and shut down the Wormhole.
So you want to surpass Big Boss, Eli? Well here's your shot! A one-man sneaking mission to save the whole goddamn world! And you don't even get to bring any weapons with you! That's real Big Boss tier shit right there!
[ ] Battle For Kandahar: Hold the Road
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Mammal Pod.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] Sahelanthropus.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Throw the Big Fucking Robot at the enemy. Repeat until problem is solved.
I mean, what are the zombies gonna do about it?
[ ] Mass Evacuation: Afghanistan
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Code Talker.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] None.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Figure it out, old man.
… Eh. I'm sure he's got this.
[ ] Mother Base Defense
-[ ] Heroes Deployed
--[ ] Literally everyone else.
-[ ] Units Deployed
--[ ] Literally everyone else.
-[ ] General Strategy
--[ ] Laugh at whatever poor, unfortunate dumbass attacks Mother Base. Then obliterate them.
[ ] Arm the Child Soldiers
-[ ] Except Eli. He's on his own.
Mother Base will be defended. We've learned from Ground Zeroes.
As I'm sure you can all see, this plan is absolutely flawless.
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Dezron
In the Omnissiah we trust !
- Location
- Poland
As I'm sure you can all see, this plan is absolutely faulty.
Fixed .
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
No one's first response is going to be let's throw nukes at it. People are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.
Considering we only need a steam boat to kill him sure.
Dezron
In the Omnissiah we trust !
- Location
- Poland
Or Old Man Henderson .