Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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Is there any reason we still couldn't do that if we aren't transported to another world?
Metal Gear Solid V: Chronicles of Outer Heaven (MGS/Valkyria Chronicles)
- Thread starter konamikode
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- Sci-Fi Crossover Action Mature
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
- Location
- Chained to my desk
@Always Late eh, it's better than nothing. In the sense that we have some arty which we can use for some missions other than naval base defense.
Basically if we deploy our artillery it's going to be for very specific tasks and specific missions; we don't have the logistics and supply train to do artillery like the US (King of Battle) or the Soviets (God of War). I know we've got 3 MRLS, what other arty pieces do we have? Because if it's the 105mm towed guns, we can do airmobile artillery shenanegans with our Chinooks sling lifting said arty. (I honestly cannot remember now. Need more Pepsi.)
....and now i have a mental image of a Blackhawk towing an MRLS floating in the air with multiple Fulton balloons.
(tbh if we need indirect fire shens it's a lot easier to have one of 3rd Co's platoons load up with mortars and stuff themselves into a Chinook, with the Chinook dropping them and the ammo off and then they go to town. Otoh mortars don't have the range and lethality of 105mm or 155mm arty rounds, but if they're smart about how they site themselves they won't be too obvious about where they're firing from. At least this is the era where counterbattery radar doesn't exist yet.
Also regards MONARC, there's also the issue that the PzH 2000 turret lacks the stabilisation needed for a naval gun (since dry land doesn't move the way the sea does
), as well as how the 155mm round is optimised for land attack (duh, land attack artillery round) and less capable than 127mm or 76mm in the AAW and ASuW roles (what with the lower rate of fire and lack of AA proximity fuse).
Also I feel I should point out that shoulder-fired ATGM means Dragon, which has an effective range of 1000 meters. So uh... not very useful. -_-;
Basically if we deploy our artillery it's going to be for very specific tasks and specific missions; we don't have the logistics and supply train to do artillery like the US (King of Battle) or the Soviets (God of War). I know we've got 3 MRLS, what other arty pieces do we have? Because if it's the 105mm towed guns, we can do airmobile artillery shenanegans with our Chinooks sling lifting said arty. (I honestly cannot remember now. Need more Pepsi.)
....and now i have a mental image of a Blackhawk towing an MRLS floating in the air with multiple Fulton balloons.
(tbh if we need indirect fire shens it's a lot easier to have one of 3rd Co's platoons load up with mortars and stuff themselves into a Chinook, with the Chinook dropping them and the ammo off and then they go to town. Otoh mortars don't have the range and lethality of 105mm or 155mm arty rounds, but if they're smart about how they site themselves they won't be too obvious about where they're firing from. At least this is the era where counterbattery radar doesn't exist yet.
Also regards MONARC, there's also the issue that the PzH 2000 turret lacks the stabilisation needed for a naval gun (since dry land doesn't move the way the sea does
), as well as how the 155mm round is optimised for land attack (duh, land attack artillery round) and less capable than 127mm or 76mm in the AAW and ASuW roles (what with the lower rate of fire and lack of AA proximity fuse).Also I feel I should point out that shoulder-fired ATGM means Dragon, which has an effective range of 1000 meters. So uh... not very useful. -_-;
The problem with using our piddling few arty guns and MRLS against warships is something I mentioned before in Kancolle fic ideas writing: ship has more guns than land and is always in motion. We've got maybe 3-4 105mm guns and 3 MRLS, the former shoots HE and the latter uses DPICM. That's stuff that'll be less effective on anyting destroyer sized and higher. We have no AP rounds to punch into anything more armored than a destroyer.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Honestly, you're not wrong on the boycott angle. Given it shares borders with not just Turkey, but Iraq, Iran, and Syria, Kurdistan has a genuine shot of getting the Israel treatment. Nobody involved wanted the Kurds to get their own state for fear of causing tensions within their borders and losing control of very key resources.
But given how Big Boss just made most of the Turkish military disintegrate or defect by just stepping out of a chopper? It's not just 'terror by heroism', it's effectively nuclear deterrence to boot. Well, so long as "Saladin" stays around.
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@konamikode, can we do this? It'd solve our mobility issues.Basically if we deploy our artillery it's going to be for very specific tasks and specific missions; we don't have the logistics and supply train to do artillery like the US (King of Battle) or the Soviets (God of War). I know we've got 3 MRLS, what other arty pieces do we have? Because if it's the 105mm towed guns, we can do airmobile artillery shenanegans with our Chinooks sling lifting said arty. (I honestly cannot remember now. Need more Pepsi.)
....and now i have a mental image of a Blackhawk towing an MRLS floating in the air with multiple Fulton balloons.
The whole 'anti-ship' issue? That's what the Swedes tested in '96 with standard rounds, and found it worked pretty well. Not to mention that at the same time MONARC was going on, there were extended-range/rocket-assisted rounds to give the weapon an 80km+ range, longer than some anti-ship missiles. They said they were working on fixing the FCS for the roll of the sea, but given there was no news on that before the cancellation I don't think that ever got completed.Also regards MONARC, there's also the issue that the PzH 2000 turret lacks the stabilisation needed for a naval gun (since dry land doesn't move the way the sea does
When we're talking fast boats? ATGMs are better. If we're talking destroyers and up? We need gunships, because if they shell the base it's Game Over.
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I just got the funniest idea ever! Get big boss a big ol bag of zip ties then have him raid an imperial supply base with Quiet and DD. Knock out EVERYONE and retrain them with the zip ties so they can't escape when they wake up mid operation.
Once everyone is down load them and all the loot into their own trucks and crates then fulton them in batches. Can you imagine the reaction to those supply bases vanishing over night?
Anyone we don't recruit we send to our client as POWs
Once everyone is down load them and all the loot into their own trucks and crates then fulton them in batches. Can you imagine the reaction to those supply bases vanishing over night?
Anyone we don't recruit we send to our client as POWs
konamikode
Cooking Harder
- Location
- The Shrine of the Muse
- Pronouns
- She/They
I always wondered why her outfit was backlessI wonder...
Hmmmm...
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
- Location
- Chained to my desk
heatsink, duh. Biological weapons suffer from heat buildup which requires said heat to be radiated into the air in order to maintain cooling so that the weapon does not overheat and suffer a mobility kill.
(That said having worn an airsoft-tier FSBE tac vest under a sweater in the tropics, man that was hot. Memo to self; cosplaying as a character in a verse that's set in europe with snow etc, when you are in malaysia, is probably not a good idea. Hmmm. Maybe this year I should head out to CF wearing that vest and my raincoat? The Division winter memes must continue, alas.)
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
- Location
- The Future
But wormhole stuff happening in another country, don't see how it affects us.I think you might've just answered your own question
The Dragon Witch
Vengeful Witch
I wonder...
Hmmmm...
I will be honest. I found that the anime version doesn't look as good as the game version. Of course there are art works done a hell of a lot better. I found three specifically I enjoy. here they are:
- Location
- The Shrine of the Muse
- Pronouns
- She/They
Yes those are good.I will be honest. I found that the anime version doesn't look as good as the game version. Of course there are art works done a hell of a lot better. I found three specifically I enjoy. here they are:
Fuck it. That's my headcanon. Makes better sense than just fanservice (Though she is capable of dodging tank and sniper rounds so I don't really have to complain about)heatsink, duh. Biological weapons suffer from heat buildup which requires said heat to be radiated into the air in order to maintain cooling so that the weapon does not overheat and suffer a mobility kill.
(That said having worn an airsoft-tier FSBE tac vest under a sweater in the tropics, man that was hot. Memo to self; cosplaying as a character in a verse that's set in europe with snow etc, when you are in malaysia, is probably not a good idea. Hmmm. Maybe this year I should head out to CF wearing that vest and my raincoat? The Division winter memes must continue, alas.)
konamikode
Cooking Harder
Character sheets updoooted.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Of course the top pic is the record holder for largest breast size increase.
- Location
- The Shrine of the Muse
- Pronouns
- She/They
Okay we got some good news and bad news
Also: this was found in Huey's character sheet
Yes.
Yes yes.
Hell yes!
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
If anyone had doubts about Huey getting a split personality, doubt no further.
- Location
- The Shrine of the Muse
- Pronouns
- She/They
That is why its my favourite
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
- Location
- The Future
@konamikode curious, what would have happened stat wise had we succeeded in making a better version of Zanzibar Land?
I still find it annoying that we are going to be cut from doing that and still don't understand why, will likely come up in next update but still.
I still find it annoying that we are going to be cut from doing that and still don't understand why, will likely come up in next update but still.
The Dragon Witch
Vengeful Witch
Hey guys I noticed something you might have missed. Check Eli's Sheet. You may notice something new.
- Location
- California
Amazing how well these pictures show how easy it can be to ruin good art.I will be honest. I found that the anime version doesn't look as good as the game version. Of course there are art works done a hell of a lot better. I found three specifically I enjoy. here they are:
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Imperial Helldog
410,757,864,530 DEAD LIZARDS
We couldn't complete the quest chain.
It's fine. There was only so much we could do.
EDIT: It's not that we couldn't, it's that we didn't. I don't know about everyone else, but I didn't realize there was a Kurdish quest line.
It is what it is. The wormhole event/special turn is coming up, so we go forward with what we have.
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The Dragon Witch
Vengeful Witch
I spy with my little eye a new development. I wonder what this will bring.
Fezzes
Knight of King Stannis Baratheon
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
Ah, the time-honoured tradition of massive anime tiddies.I will be honest. I found that the anime version doesn't look as good as the game version. Of course there are art works done a hell of a lot better. I found three specifically I enjoy. here they are:
- Location
- California
Him probably doing that canon move.
ComissarPancakes
Pan-Galactic Motivational Officer
- Location
- The State of Golden Fires
Hmmm, updated character bios you say...?
...do we need to ask Quiet?
...has the great Ocelot finally met his match in interrogation?
GOD DAMN IT HUEY! NO!
Huh...did Hana have some little friends latch on to her?
...do we need to ask Quiet?
...isn't Big Sal supposed to be repaired by now?
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
- Location
- Belgrade,Serbia
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I thought it was SB that had that as a site wide saying?