Merkels Operation Walküre

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Similar to what ATP said above.

Will there be a citizenship via claiming asylum for Soviet PoW. Stalin to take out his frustrations could and probably will have some PoW sent to the Gulag or even have them executed. Ofcourse, citizenship would be granted after a vetting process during which they can simply stay in Germany temporarily. Then you have heartwarming cases like Sonke and Natalja.
 
The situation is, that the prisoners are free. They are also expressis verbis in the treaty allowed to stay in the land, in which they had been prisoners, albeit as free men. Also no POW is to be charged because of being pow. You see, that there is the problem, that there may, MAY, be other possibilities to charge them, even if they are constructed. That is the great problem. However, Stalin won't do so. So far I can say. He won't construct something. However, some former Soviet soldiers decide to stay, as they really face problems. Wlassow for example. Or the cossacks. It is also stated, that the family members of such persons are allowed to emigrate. And Stalin will accept this, as he hopes to keep power and build up the USSR even better. The USSR will become TTL PRC, at least for some time.

The end of ww2 won't be the end of the TL.
 
At first, I have to say, I'm a Prussian myself. And I'm proud to be a Prussian. Especially as there were many Prussians dying after July 20th. Also just look at the vita of General v. Saucken. Especially as this was the state of enlightment. Kant and Hegel for example. Or Moses Mendelssohn.

And yes, the situation with Stalin was problematic. One wanted a deal with one side, preferrably the WA. As they refused and continued the war, one accepted the deal Stalin offered. If he had not, well...

I only repeat was my granmother said me - bavarian treated us like humans, other germans like servants, but for prussian we were slaves. Maybe she never meet right prussian.
one of her cousins from home Army was send to Gulag, where he spend 10 years among german soldiers,probably including prussians. He go there hating germans and liking russians, come back hating soviets and actually liking germans.
Interesting things - all prisoners was treated equally shitty, but proportionally more poles died then soviet prisoners, and more germans then poles.French from Charlemagne dyvision died almost all.

Killing Stalin would be good, becouse thanks to his state nature rest of soviets would start killing each other to become next Stalin.Kill Stalin - and his state disintegrate.
 
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killing Stalin would not change much, since all the Russian high command knew that if the Germans won before the isot, they would lose the war.
 
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Killing Stalin at that point in time would most likely end with Beria in command after going into a murder spree against his rivals. I can't see how this would be better in any way, Stalin was a paranoid murderous bastard but at least he based his decisions on pragmatism; Beria, on the other hand, at that time was driven by his kinks and power lust, a useful tool if kept under control, too powerful to be kept so by anyone but Stalin himself, and a disaster if let loose.
At Stalin's death in '53, age did mellow him out a bit but also made him that much more cunning and dangerous, which is why the rest of the Praesidium killed him and made Khrushchev Chairman.
 
Killing Stalin at that point in time would most likely end with Beria in command after going into a murder spree against his rivals. I can't see how this would be better in any way, Stalin was a paranoid murderous bastard but at least he based his decisions on pragmatism; Beria, on the other hand, at that time was driven by his kinks and power lust, a useful tool if kept under control, too powerful to be kept so by anyone but Stalin himself, and a disaster if let loose.
At Stalin's death in '53, age did mellow him out a bit but also made him that much more cunning and dangerous, which is why the rest of the Praesidium killed him and made Khrushchev Chairman.
(1) Make Beria have an unfortunate accident e.g. one of his victims out of the blue attacks and manages to kill him or Stalin just purges him for some reason.

(2) Khruschev comes to fore and Stalin makes him his right hand man.

(3) Soon enough have Stalin eliminated somehow. Sabotage the aircraft he uses, sabotage his car somehow, something falls on his head when he inspects a construction project etc.

(4) Khruschev takes over.
 
Given the end of the war and what LH said his end would be, Beria himself might be trying to convince Stalin to just let him retire peacefully and stay the hell away from politics, just give him a dacha in Crimea near a kindergarden and he'd be in pig heaven.

On the other hand, you know what? A peek into LH would show how wasteful were the purges that weakened the USSR, this likely already changed Stalin's plans so just tell him to shoot the manipulative bastard already and get browny points with everybody.
 
I can only add, that the story about Stalin isn't ending here. He will keep a role. And he will have interesting times.
 
Killing Stalin at that point in time would most likely end with Beria in command after going into a murder spree against his rivals. I can't see how this would be better in any way, Stalin was a paranoid murderous bastard but at least he based his decisions on pragmatism; Beria, on the other hand, at that time was driven by his kinks and power lust, a useful tool if kept under control, too powerful to be kept so by anyone but Stalin himself, and a disaster if let loose.
At Stalin's death in '53, age did mellow him out a bit but also made him that much more cunning and dangerous, which is why the rest of the Praesidium killed him and made Khrushchev Chairman.
Well,Beria was rape Himmler - but after 1953 he tried to made NEP and honest peace with Allies. Unfortunatelly for soviets as state/but fortunatelly for soviet girls/ Kruszczow killed him and instead of NEP tried to made soviets economy without genocide.Which even worked - Brezniew do not need to kill him after removing him from power, and soviet never again mass-murdered anybody.
 
Chapter III, Part 6: A Broken Morningstar
September 1st, 1944, Sea of Japan, 08:34:

Kaigun-shōsa Yamashita sat on the bridge of the destroyer Take. He commanded three Matsu class destroyers with the task to patrol the area between Hakodate and Aomori. Since the Event the Nihon Kaigun had ordered all carriers, battleships, cruisers and many destroyers back to the home waters of the Sea of Japan.

Those ships were to be refitted with German technology. Like his ship. Armed with 37 mm guns, an 2 4-tube 375 mm Bofors ASROC launcher and advanced German SONAR and RADAR his ship was much better equipped to take out US submarines. These ships had been commissioned a few weeks ago and this patrol mission was supposed to be a shakedown run in relatively safe waters.

Only a few nautical miles away Commander Thomas Benjamin Oakley Jr. on the USS Growler tried to slip through the defences to attack the Japanese fleet in the Sea of Japan. He knew, that this was a difficult task. He remembered the success Prien had at Scapa Flow. But this time 20 boats were attempting this. Five would try it at the Kuril islands, another five here and ten at Tsushima.

It was a suicide mission. A mission that only went forward as Halsey had convinced Nimitz, that some success was needed in the Pacific. He feared that more units would be moved to Atlantic Command. A victory might convince Roosevelt to send more ships to the Pacific instead. The surface fleet was unavailable, so orders were sent out to submarines still in the Pacific. Twenty submarines were ordered for transfer to the Atlantic. It seemed the British had suffered heavy losses. The Brits. If they couldn't deal with the Germans, it was their problem. Pearl Harbor had to be avenged and the fight against the Japanese continued.

He had heard rumors. Rumors that mentioned that Germany was replaced by one from the future. Bullshit. The Germans must have gotten some new toys and the rest were excuses made by HQ.

In the distance he spotted three enemy warships, likely destroyers. Deciding to stop and lie in wait he gave orders for silent running.

Cmdr. Oakley was about to contact the other boats when a violent thump rippled through his submarine. Only a few hundred meters away USS Shark hit a mine on the outer edge of a defensive minefield the Japanese had laid in 1942. The resulting explosion was large enough to be visible to the Japanese a few kilometers away.

At once Yamashita ordered his ships to investigate the explosion. He suspected US submarines to be the cause. That had to be investigated. Yamashita ordered to use active SONAR.

Oakley cursed. Not only USS Shark had hit a mine and was lost, the Japanese ships had noticed them.

On the Take Yamashita's sonar officer reported underwater contacts. Soon a spread of torpedoes fired by a submarine could be seen, but was easily evaded. It brought the Take into a position, where the submarine was about 2,000 m in front. The Japanese ship fired 8 ASW rockets at the target. The ASW rockets entered the water with a small splash. For a moment the sea was calm, but then three massive water piles emerged and wreckage soon floated to the surface.

On Growler Oakley tried to evade the three destroyers by diving. His boat vibrated forcefully when one of his unit's submarines had been sunk. USS Swordfish was the leading boat and thus had to be the victim. However, he heard the ping of the active sonar. His boat had been detected. Suddenly a series of depth charges detonated around his boat, although the destroyer was still over a nautical mile away. His boat was damaged, but still operational. He thought, that the explosions would cause a temporary loss of SONAR contact, but he was wrong as the ship appeared on the surface over him and dropped depth charges. The depth charges were far enough to not destroy the boat but still close enough to cause damage.

Yamashita was pleased. Matsu had attacked yet another submarine with ASROCs and was able to follow the assault up with depth charges. The SONAR was so good, that the underwater explosions did not cause a loss of contact. Momo, his third destroyer, was engaging a third submarine. It seemed damaged, as Momo reported oil slick. The attack continued.

Oakley felt the rumble of another underwater explosion not far away. It seemed either USS Seawolf or USS Tuna were sunk. But he couldn't think about that now, as he was in deep trouble himself, as another destroyer had caught up and engaged him. A pattern of depth charges hit the boat, damaging it further. His engineer told him, the battery bank was hit and chlorine gas was flooding the engine room. Oakley sighed having nothing left to say at this point. He ordered to surface the boat to let the crew escape. He would then scuttle the boat.

On the Take Yamashita had ordered to help Matsu with her opponent, while Momo was looking for other submarine. Soon after the next attack by Take, a submarine surfaced. It was immediately fired upon by all three destroyers. Yamashita soon realised that the submarine surfaced to let the crew escape and called for ceasefire. 46 of the crew were rescued. Cmdr. Oakley was not with them, as he stayed behind to scuttle the boat. His actions would be in vain as German divers dove on the boat about a week later and collected valuable material.

One submarine was left. USS Tuna under the command of Cmdr. Edward Frank Steffanides. He had settled his boat at the bottom of the sea, waiting for the destroyers to retreat. Around midnight the following day he surfaced and sent a report of the operation's failure to Pearl Harbor. His boat needed fresh air and thus was unable to dive until it could be replenished. Unfortunately, a Japanese patrol plane detected the surfaced USS Tuna with its newly fitted surface search radar. After a short and intense bombardment the submarine quickly sank. A corvette nearby was only able to rescue Cmdr. Steffanides and two ratings, who were on the bridge and were able to jump into the water to escape.

Operation Morningstar was a disastrous failure. Of the 20 boats that took part only 4 survived. 10% were lost in a single engagement. As a result, 20 more submarines had been redirected to the Atlantic with general US naval presence decreasing in the Pacific over the next few months. Furthermore the introduction of convoys and significantly improved ASW capabilities of the Japanese navy lead to higher US submarine losses. At the turn of the year of the 160 submarines previous year hardly 100 of them were left in operational condition. That meant only 33 were at the front, another 33 coming or going and 33 repairing in the yard. And the losses only continued to rise. The crews and submarines could be replaced, but the crews became more and more "green", leading to increasingly worse performance and losses.

The news of these defeats were not heard in the light of the catastrophic defeat in the Battle of Alta and the attacks on New York. However, it allowed Japan to reduce their losses and pressure on limited resources. Resources, that were used to upgrade the main fleet, build more sub-chasers and aircraft.
 
I read, that Japan lost so much not becouse USA submarines was superweapon/they were good, but not U-21 style new design/,but becouse Japanesse fleet failed to create proper convoy system, and proper anti-submarine doctrine.
If they do so, they would at least partially succed without 21th century stuff.
The same goes for japaneese submarines - they seek warship to sink,instead of creating wolf-packs and sink merchant schips.
 
I was surprised how the Americans lost several submarines, but it is possible if the Germans told them the best ways to protect their ships and to effectively fight against the American submarines.

The Japanese had problems and the solutions were not studied or applied because of political problems or their way of thinking.
 
@Rommel13 : The Japanese made several crucial mistakes. Mistakes they don't make now. Now the US have losses. And US boats are usually big and not that manoeuverable. That and the German technologies and tactics will lead to greater losses. The Japanese also sank 53* (of 52) US submarines lost in the war. Only USS Dorado was mined by a Uboat**.

*including accidents and CTL
** most likely explanation
 
So the blockade of Japan is effectively meaningless. I mean, yeah, Japan still has too few merchant ships, but some getting through is still better than nothing.
 
The Japanese introduced more convoys and better ASW tactics, so yes, the blockade is not that effective as in OTL. Still, the US subs are able to sink Japanese ships, and there are too few of them. Therefore the US subs can only have 33 boats active in an area, which lasts from the Kuril islands to Java. With the convoy system they need to form wolf packs, which will reduce the operational area even more.
 
So the blockade of Japan is effectively meaningless. I mean, yeah, Japan still has too few merchant ships, but some getting through is still better than nothing.
Yep. It is just a paper blockade at this point given the current condition of the Allied Navies.

It is going to be one hell of a 3 sided cold war after the war is over.
 
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