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Mercenary Mage Quest: Asur Dogs of War in Warhammer Fantasy

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Imperious said:
Though I imagine that between the Colonist trait and her vocation as a loremaster she's probably familiar with how the Empire's halflings managed to obtain the moot by bribing the emperor with a particularly tasty meal. She might even be familiar with how food tourism is apparently a major industry in the moot.
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Fanriel knows about halflings, but she has never met one outside of seeing one walking by in the streets of Marienburg, Altdorf and Nuln.

And the "tasty meal" thing was an intentionally absurd excuse, not the actual reason behind elevating Mootland into a province. Ludwig's main motivation was to stick it to the Elector-Counts of Averland and Stirland whom he was rivals with, by stripping off huge chunks of their most fertile farmland and giving it to the Halflings.

This also served to weaken the other Elector-Counts by adding to the number of votes in play, giving a vote to a faction that would forever be grateful to him, as well as signalling his openness to being bribed. "Yeah, I gave the Halflings a province because they got me some real nice food. What might I give you if you do right by me, hmm?"

Imperious said:
@Blackout if we were to get acquitaned with halflings cooks, could we write a paper to the tower about their methods and what makes their cooking so famed?
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Sure, you could.
 
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Blackout said:
Fanriel knows about halflings, but she has never met one outside of seeing one walking by in the streets of Marienburg, Altdorf and Nuln.
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Fair. I was mostly hoping that she'd be familiar enough with their reputation as cooks to know how they compare to the Asur's own in that regard.

Unlike martial, prowess, diplomacy, stewardship, intrigue, piety and learning we unfortunately don't have a cooking stat to check on this :sad:

Blackout said:
And the "tasty meal" thing was an intentionally absurd excuse, not the actual reason behind elevating Mootland into a province. Ludwig's main motivation was to stick it to the Elector-Counts of Averland and Stirland whom he was rivals with, by stripping off huge chunks of their most fertile farmland and giving it to the Halflings.

This also served to weaken the other Elector-Counts by adding to the number of votes in play, giving a vote to a faction that would forever be grateful to him, as well as signalling his openness to being bribed. "Yeah, I gave the Halflings a province because they got me some real nice food. What might I give you if you do right by me, hmm?"
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I mean we are talking about an Emperor so glutonous that he was literally named "the fat". It would hardly be the most absurd case of corruption Warhammer has had. Still, if you decide that in quest canon the meal was just a fig leaf then fair enough.
 
Imperious said:
I mean we are talking about an Emperor so glutonous that he was literally named "the fat". It would hardly be the most absurd case of corruption Warhammer has had. Still, if you decide that in quest canon the meal was just a fig leaf then fair enough.
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I am not, in fact, inventing quest canon.

Canonically, Ludwig was looking for a way to stick it to the Elector-Counts of Averland and Stirland, his halfling jester suggested founding Mootland as a joke at their expense, and Ludwig thought that was a great idea and came up with the excuse on the spot.

People just remember the "Heehoo they bribed him with food" thing because it's funny.
 
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Blackout said:
Fanriel knows about halflings, but she has never met one outside of seeing one walking by in the streets of Marienburg, Altdorf and Nuln.
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Speaking about knowing @Blackout , Fanriel most certainly knows the history of the Empire.

What does she think about the charade of pretending that the Skaven don't exist? Surely a good chunk of the mighty and powerful are very aware of the vermin, yet they deliberately misinform the rest of the populus, that no such thing exists. Is it downright stupid and ignorant in her mind?

There is also the tale of Mandred Skavenslayer, the human equivalent of Aenarion the Defender, who saved the Empire from annihilation. Now instead of the great hero he was in life, he is treated like a fairy tale character, that chases after rats in the streets and is more of a comic relief. Does she have an opinion about it as well?
 
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Imperious said:
Alternatively maybe we could Curse Break on the ogres. Find a troll of as similar dimensions to the ogre as possible and transfer the hunger from the ogre to the troll.
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I feel that it would effectively that troll to effectively become Pathfinder!Troll, which have similar "hyper-hunger" as Warhammer!Ogres, due to "needing large amounts of energy to 'fuel' their Regeneration"
 
Blackout said:
I am not, in fact, inventing quest canon.

Canonically, Ludwig was looking for a way to stick it to the Elector-Counts of Averland and Stirland, his halfling jester suggested founding Mootland as a joke at their expense, and Ludwig thought that was a great idea and came up with the excuse on the spot.

People just remember the "Heehoo they bribed him with food" thing because it's funny.
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What source are you going from? I was just using the wiki.
 
Sertorius said:
Speaking about knowing @Blackout , Fanriel most certainly knows the history of the Empire.

What does she think about the charade of pretending that the Skaven don't exist? Surely a good chunk of the mighty and powerful are very aware of the vermin, yet they deliberately misinform the rest of the populus, that no such thing exists. Is it downright stupid and ignorant in her mind?

There is also the tale of Mandred Skavenslayer, the human equivalent of Aenarion the Defender, who saved the Empire from annihilation. Now instead of the great hero he was in life, he is treated like a fairly tale character, that chases after rats in the streets and is more of a comic relief. Does she have an opinion about it as well?
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That is not something that I am willing to discuss at this time.

Imperious said:
What source are you going from? I was just using the wiki.
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Sigmar's Heirs and Archive of the Empire Volume I.
 
Warmachine375 said:
Anyway, I find it amusing that Fanriel remarked on the nice well-groomed mustache the leader of the Knights of Bull had.

Shame the Asur won't try grow a mustache because the Dawi would find it cute compared to their beards or mocking to them.
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Actually, apparently elves are capable of growing facial hair, since the Priest at the shrine of Lileath had a beard.
Blackout said:
The attendant priest is a bearded old elf in white robes,
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Imperious said:
However like with everything, we need to watch our budget. No point in hiring a cook to make our troops better if the cook is so expensive that we can't afford any troops instead.
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Honestly, Fanriel could probably do that herself. Cooking is also knowledge and seems like the kind of basic thing that any Loremaster worth the name knows how to not just for themselves but for their whole retinue.
Fouredged Sword said:
Or we can shove an elemental into them and possibly circumvent the curse by turning them into non-ogres.
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We've already decided that doing that to sapient beings is immoral and I doubt that we'd be able to do this in a way that the target retains free will. The best alternative we can think of is with Trolls since not only are they more dangerous than Ogres, but their biggest weakness is their stupidity and low morale which would be negated by possession and they're already nigh-universally man-eating monsters little better than beasts.

And even then we have people in thread using it on Trolls even though it's pretty much a certainty we're going to slaughter every one we come across.
 
BigBadBob7070 said:
Honestly, Fanriel could probably do that herself. Cooking is also knowledge and seems like the kind of basic thing that any Loremaster worth the name knows how to not just for themselves but for their whole retinue.
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I asked Blackout this already. His answer was that while Fanriel is an ace cook we wouldn't be able to act as a cook during downtimes without spending an action on it and wouldn't have the time to act as a cook during campaigns, which is when he said the benefit of good meals is most pronounced, at all.
 
I have this strange, inexplicable feeling that there are more people in Kislev who can cook well than there are people capable of creating spells. Maybe even to the point that their time is less valuable than Fanriel's? I don't know where I might have gotten this idea.
 
Male Elves can grow beards once they start to physically age, but they are very thin and wispy even at the best of times.

And unlike the dwarfs, to the elves a beard is not a symbol of strength and respectability, because elves only start to age when they start to grow weary of life and become overwhelmed with grief and depression. To see an elf with a beard is a sad thing, because it is a sign that that elf is nearing the end of his life and is not long for this world.
 
Blackout said:
Male Elves can grow beards once they start to physically age, but they are very thin and wispy even at the best of times.

And unlike the dwarfs, to the elves a beard is not a symbol of strength and respectability, because elves only start to age when they start to grow weary of life and become overwhelmed with grief and depression. To see an elf with a beard is a sad thing, because it is a sign that that elf is nearing the end of his life and is not long for this world.
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How would a dwarf handle seeing an elf with a beard more impressive then theirs?
 
Blackout said:
That is not a thing that has happened in the history of Mallus.

Any dwarf that is not a literal child that would never be permitted to go outside and meet an elf would have a beard more impressive than any elf.
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So no ancient elven lord infuriating Dawi warriors by flaunting their inferiority towards him via his superior beard. My day is ruined :sad:
 
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Blackout said:
Male Elves can grow beards once they start to physically age, but they are very thin and wispy even at the best of times.

And unlike the dwarfs, to the elves a beard is not a symbol of strength and respectability, because elves only start to age when they start to grow weary of life and become overwhelmed with grief and depression. To see an elf with a beard is a sad thing, because it is a sign that that elf is nearing the end of his life and is not long for this world.
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Oh. Seeing an elf who is overwhelmed with grief and depression in Lileath's shrine... that feels somehow right, but very sad at the same time.
 
Blackout said:
That is not a thing that has happened in the history of Mallus.

Any dwarf that is not a literal child that would never be permitted to go outside and meet an elf would have a beard more impressive than any elf.
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So there's at least one things dwarves are better at than elves :V

Macros said:
Clearly there's foul trickery afoot, and this needs to go in the Book ASAP.

I now have the image of an elven illusionist going around faking the Most Glorious Beard just to piss off any dwarf he sees.
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That definitely happened at some point, probably dating back from the alliance between the 2.
 
K von Carstein said:
So there's at least one things dwarves are better at than elves :V
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This beard gap can not be tolerated! :mad:

We must find a human to act as our champion, one with a beard so magnificent as to put fear into the hearts of the mountainfolk. Then we must master the magics of Ghur so as to empower our champion. Only thus, can we hope to survive our weakness as Elgi before the Dawis' mighty facial manes.
 
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Hilarious Coincidence: Disguised!Thankit seems to be oldest among Carolina's Officers

I don't think that "intended meaning" of "Fear Old People in a job, where People die young" saying, was "They're Skaven-in-disguise"
 
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