Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
[X] Medium combat arm – Armor plating is limited to the hand and forearm as well as over the shoulder. Enhanced strength and mechashift weapons are available in the hand only. Energy weapons can be wherever. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery.
Tally incoming in a few moments.
Tally incoming in a few moments.
[X] Heavy combat arm – Armor plating over the entire arm and shoulder. Enhanced strength, mechashift weapons, and energy weapons can be placed anywhere on the arm. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery, and this arm will have one fewer weapon than the others would.
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
I didn't expect to see such a heavy support for Heavy arm.
Missy in ten years:
If permanent merging with the mage didn't have some disadvantage, why don't these super high end devices do it?
As far as I understand, IAE usually doesn't give Devices to template mages in the process of convertation, it's Gadgeteers job to build them. So, the TSAB would not be surprised to see Taylor without a staff at all.
[X] Medium combat arm – Armor plating is limited to the hand and forearm as well as over the shoulder. Enhanced strength and mechashift weapons are available in the hand only. Energy weapons can be wherever. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery.
Missy in ten years:
Counter-argument:
If permanent merging with the mage didn't have some disadvantage, why don't these super high end devices do it?
I don't see how embedding PS in Taylor's body will boost her combat abilities in any way, and, anyway, we were too outclassed to actually change the outcome.
As far as I understand, IAE usually doesn't give Devices to template mages in the process of convertation, it's Gadgeteers job to build them. So, the TSAB would not be surprised to see Taylor without a staff at all.
[X] Medium combat arm – Armor plating is limited to the hand and forearm as well as over the shoulder. Enhanced strength and mechashift weapons are available in the hand only. Energy weapons can be wherever. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery.
Hoyden
Hugbot v0.28
- Location
- UK
@SomeCleverName your vote is slightly misformated, it has a space after the 'x' and isn't being counted by the tally program.
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- Erebus
All of your other "points" are debatable (though I think I would win) but this seems to be an axiomatic disagreement between us. Paragraph, but particularly the highlighted line.
- Location
- Russia
I'm not sure you would win even those points, to be honest. To use a shitty comparison, a solid steel sword is better than a wooden sword covered in steel in every single way, including cost.
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[X] Medium combat arm – Armor plating is limited to the hand and forearm as well as over the shoulder. Enhanced strength and mechashift weapons are available in the hand only. Energy weapons can be wherever. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery.
- Location
- Tromso, Norway.
[X] Heavy combat arm – Armor plating over the entire arm and shoulder. Enhanced strength, mechashift weapons, and energy weapons can be placed anywhere on the arm. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery, and this arm will have one fewer weapon than the others would.
horus
Lupercal
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- Cthonia
[X] Heavy combat arm – Armor plating over the entire arm and shoulder. Enhanced strength, mechashift weapons, and energy weapons can be placed anywhere on the arm. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery, and this arm will have one fewer weapon than the others would.
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- Russia
She's probably not even going to look as conspicuous as the resident GaoGaiGal Subaru. And as far as I'm aware, she only looks conspicuous when her prosthesics are in use.
- Location
- Oregon
The heavy arm isn't even that bad.
If we jumped straight to it, the heavier arms might spark a bit of rebranding, but it just looks like an arm in plate with tinker gadgets. Unless it's refuted, the public would just assume Armsmaster or another Protectorate tinker built it.
I don't even think it would clash with her current costume.
If we jumped straight to it, the heavier arms might spark a bit of rebranding, but it just looks like an arm in plate with tinker gadgets. Unless it's refuted, the public would just assume Armsmaster or another Protectorate tinker built it.
I don't even think it would clash with her current costume.
- Location
- Ottawa
[X] Heavy combat arm – Armor plating over the entire arm and shoulder. Enhanced strength, mechashift weapons, and energy weapons can be placed anywhere on the arm. Build time will include ONE TIME SLOT for surgery, and this arm will have one fewer weapon than the others would.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
We're looking to recruit Vista, the pro-transhuman vote just pushes her further into our camp. A camp which already has Alexandria in all but name.
AKA: It's not a bug, its a feature.
This seems like a leap in logic to me. IIRC, Tim is all/mostly human still, we're human. I do not see how foisting a "the human body sucks, make me a machine" mindset onto Vista pushes her further into our camp.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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- Ohio
We'd be the only group that both accepts her desire to modify herself, and provides her with the technology for said modification at the low, low cost of FREEEEEEEEEEE!
That, and given Taylor got a bit of a body mod herself from when she first got Storm, she's understand the desire to improve one's self-image 'physically'.
Don't forget the hidden cost of "dependent on Tim for the upkeep/maintenance of her cybernetic 'enhancements'". That's not free.
That was subtle in comparison to grafting cybernetics onto one's person.
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- Russia
Wasn't it stated that Tim's magic-tech can be maintained by normal people as long as they have the skills? Or am I mistaking it with some another Wormfic?
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
Yep, any normal person with a degree in magical engineering and necessary tools can maintain and replicate Tim's tech.
But Tim is the only such a person on Earth-Bet.
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- Russia
So, unlike Tinkertech it can be taught. And Vista is that kinda person who would jump on it and, even if she's not academically strong enough to learn it fully, she'd probably learn enough to not depend on Tim entirely.
- Location
- Canada
Worth noting that, with some effort, Taylor could probably have half a dozen Tims or more in a couple years. His skills come from a Template, not a Shard and are infinitely replicable by design. Once it gets out that she can Template people without brainwashing them, shes going to get ALOT of volunteers from the TSAB side... You going to spend years learning magitech engineering when a stamp on the forehead can give you all that and more?
The TSAB vessel probably has dozens of formally trained engineers as well. TSAB (that is to say, Midchildan) culture would also offer Vista the respect she both craves and deserves for her years of service. So shes unlikely to have any issues from the tech side of things.
No, her issues are going to come from Bet; with their pre-existing notions of the dangers of 'tinkertech', general bias against augmentation, and insistence that Vista is a fragile princess who needs to be sheltered from the world and treated like a invalid.
The TSAB vessel probably has dozens of formally trained engineers as well. TSAB (that is to say, Midchildan) culture would also offer Vista the respect she both craves and deserves for her years of service. So shes unlikely to have any issues from the tech side of things.
No, her issues are going to come from Bet; with their pre-existing notions of the dangers of 'tinkertech', general bias against augmentation, and insistence that Vista is a fragile princess who needs to be sheltered from the world and treated like a invalid.
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- Erebus
I'm not sure what to think of this, but it is hilarious. If everybody had paid attention to @Silently Watches RULES Heavy arm would be winning 22 to 17, but as is, Medium arm is winning 14 to 10. Sadly... light arm only has 6 total, 4 in the rules and 3 by vote tally machine.
Also, no. That "wooden sword" can have an edge at a nanometer, or even one atom with a diamond support lattice. It'll carve through any mechanically made steel sword.
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