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It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])

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Wow. That was, uh... I'm kinda tickled just how much QA has fallen in love with Anna. Pity she had to push one of Anna's berserk buttons. And yes, QA. You are currently extremely inadequate and need to improve as rapidly as possible. I was hoping Valkyries would feel like hosts to QA, but I guess not. I guess that QA's current weakness is the only thing that's going to get her treating Valkyries like equals for now. Ganbatte QA-chan! Keep working hard and hopefully Anna-sempai will eventually forgive you!
 
About as sociable as Anna too.

I get QA's irritation though. "That's illegal" "Because you're all fucking idiots" which is frustrating as all hell to deal with and then calling one of the only things she registers as being an individual retarded?

Ooph.
 
The first(?) set of major revisions are up. Most of them were made to the plane scene, but there are a few more scattered references throughout.
 
While the side stories are interesting, I do hope that we get back to the original story.

Seeing as each new side story begins with a drop-in, we lose all the character growth, which is some of the best parts of the original.

In any case, thank you for writing!
 
I don't believe that QA has broken into secure databases yet. It sounds like she couldn't do that without being caught due to her being blind to some of the tech upgrades, or maybe it's not that she's blind but that she keeps getting caught flat footed due to no Cycle being allowed the higher tech.

You haven't named the unnamed girl yet like in INW where she's Dreamer. So, I'll use maybeDreamer since you may go a different direction here. But, I'm guessing that she will be the one bailing out QA when she's either about to get into terrible trouble, or start giving hints on what is going on since it's likely that maybeDreamer has meta-knowledge. Likely also able to see into those secure databases with ease also.

Or maybe it's that she will have a better overview of the entire milieu?

In any event, I'd imagine that once maybeDreamer gets involved QA will start to feel much more comfortable in the situation she's been dropped into. :)
 
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@Alivaril no but like, Rokusabe's entire attitude isn't addressed. At all. Like it pushed QA to snap and, berserk button or no, there needs to be a scene where that's addressed and/or explained beyond "And, I'm a senior / violence is wrong!"

It was just a continuous set of insults even someone like Anna could pick up on.
 
Elerathe said:
While the side stories are interesting, I do hope that we get back to the original story.

Seeing as each new side story begins with a drop-in, we lose all the character growth, which is some of the best parts of the original.

In any case, thank you for writing!
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Maybe you should move these side stories into another thread @Alivaril? I like them here, but it might help if you had a collection thread you can post them to. I'd Watch it! :D
 
Anfan said:
Maybe you should move these side stories into another thread @Alivaril? I like them here, but it might help if you had a collection thread you can post them to. I'd Watch it! :D
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I mean, I literally did make a poll about doing that. :p

(Admittedly, I probably should've included my personal Snippet Thread as one of the options. Oops?)


Mother Nyx said:
@Alivaril no but like, Rokusabe's entire attitude isn't addressed. At all. Like it pushed QA to snap and, berserk button or no, there needs to be a scene where that's addressed and/or explained beyond "And, I'm a senior / violence is wrong!"

It was just a continuous set of insults even someone like Anna could pick up on.
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...This might be a case of not being able to spot things in my own writing even after it's been pointed out to me. Sorry.
As far as Rokusabe Yukari is concerned, she was helping; she was trying to teach rules to someone clearly ignorant of them before they got hurt. She was also going to try to comfort Taylor in the wake of sudden misery, but Anna beat her to it and Rokusabe didn't want to interrupt Taylor's sudden good mood.

Anna didn't notice any insults aside from the "defective" one, and she considered the response to what was clearly an accidental slight to be unjustifiably excessive. After the possibility of court-martialing was mentioned, Anna was uncomfortable since she'd had a mental breakdown just a few months prior and tried to attack UNAF forces in the process. It didn't go too badly for her, but she's well aware that she's useful; Taylor Hebert does not have that protection.

EDIT: I'm not trying to argue against what you're saying and I do appreciate the feedback. I'm just having trouble seeing what you're seeing.
 
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I mean, how did the conscription happen? There had to be miscommunication on that, or they made a very good argument to move QA away from an active conflict zone.
 
Gah, that was so awesome. Seeing QA being at a steep disadvantage to everyone around her is refreshing, and watching her crush over The Perfect Human was incredible. I want much more of this sidestory.
 
Cortei said:
I mean, how did the conscription happen? There had to be miscommunication on that, or they made a very good argument to move QA away from an active conflict zone.
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Knowledge and safety was offered; knowledge and safety was accepted. They're the ones who had to go and put the more useful lessons on a multi-week delay in the name of "safety," "active anti-air defense systems," "A danger to yourself and others," and other such stupidity.

EDIT: Or, outside QA-vision: Valkyrie Frames are incredibly advanced potential WMDs that should not be used without skilled supervision, and those on-base had neither the time nor the accreditation for such things. They figured the reading list would be enough to keep her occupied and busy — and also, they weren't joking about the AA.
 
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Dreameater2579 said:
As someone who knows nothing about the other half of the xover, WTF? (I am very much picturing Kyubey and the secret behind magical girls as I read this)
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Hmm. I'll edit to make it clearer that Valkyries are part of the United Nations Air Force, aka the most essential military arm of an almost-totally-global government. Classified military secrets say "Yo."
 
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Ugh, I forgot about the ridiculous Hat powers from the original Sanctioned. I was happy to forget.

Also, might want to make it clear the timeline. This reads as being the same trip from the very beginning of BAHHSCQ, but then you have that tickle cut-in scene and such makes me think of Anna's flight finding out about how ticklish she is. Or instead of a timeline clarification, maybe just need to clarify that it isn't Anna in that cut-in?

Either way, would be interesting to see people's reactions when QA feels it necessary to stop slumming it and act like continent sized bio-crystalline supercomputer AI that she is.
 
serapheus said:
Also, might want to make it clear the timeline. This reads as being the same trip from the very beginning of BAHHSCQ, but then you have that tickle cut-in scene and such makes me think of Anna's flight finding out about how ticklish she is. Or instead of a timeline clarification, maybe just need to clarify that it isn't Anna in that cut-in?
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Will do. (E:Edited)

Dreameater2579 said:
I get its the military but why would those cause personnel problems?
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In the view of the UNAF, military psych staff frequently need to have specific levels of information access in order to do their jobs optimally - preferably as high or higher than those of their patients. Valkyries make this even worse by viewing unenhanced humans with increasing disdain as they themselves become more and more capable, meaning they can often only be counseled effectively by another enhanced Valkyrie - which, well, are usually used as soldiers instead of support staff. Attempts have been made to compensate for Valkyrie parallel processing abilities via multiple civilians, buuut that doesn't really help with the personnel shortage.

In other words, there are no(t enough) therapists (tvtropes warning). :V

This will probably come up in a side POV.
 
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OK, but! I can't wait to see the look on everyone's faces when they realize "Taylor's" core is improving her emotional capacity in order to help improve her. Which means the relatively unemotional state is something innate it to her, not Valkyrie syndrome as they had been assuming.
 
So. How long until QAkyrie figures out sensor spoofing and gets back to making appropriate useful and readily understood improvements to Best Symbie?
 
Honestly, while I find the side stories amusing I watched this thread for the main story only. It kinda has been bugging me to get a 3k+ word alert only to find out the main story hasn't updated. :(
 
Logos01 said:
So. How long until QAkyrie figures out sensor spoofing and gets back to making appropriate useful and readily understood improvements to Best Symbie?
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I feel like that should be QAlkyrie, at the very least.

OverReactionGuy said:
Honestly, while I find the side stories amusing I watched this thread for the main story only. It kinda has been bugging me to get a 3k+ word alert only to find out the main story hasn't updated. :(
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<.< >.> Well, for what it's worth, I think this sidestory should probably be offloaded into its own thread at this rate. I can't promise that it'll continue updating as a full story, but I'm still having a lot of fun with it for now. If this mood persists through the next chapter, said chapter will have a link to a dedicated thread for at least archival and discussion purposes.


A brief edit was made to elaborate on the as-yet-unnamed-in-story people monitoring Taylor Hebert and other persons of interest. They wish they were called Big Sister, but alas, their repeated petitions have been denied. Further segments with them will be indicated by green squigglies (example: ~ ~ ~)
 
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Anfan said:
Maybe you should move these side stories into another thread @Alivaril? I like them here, but it might help if you had a collection thread you can post them to. I'd Watch it!
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There is already another thread for the side stories here, @Alivaril has just been posting each snippet in both places, which might be contributing to the confusion.

Alivaril said:
Hmm. I'll do some edits when I get home to make it clearer that QA doesn't consider non-hosts to be people until and unless they prove themselves even remotely worthwhile. As a result, she doesn't really have any patience for perceived obstacles and is far more likely to interpret their actions in the worst possible light.

EDIT: It hasn't been mentioned much in INW since adventurers and gods feel comfortably similar to hosts.
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Good point, I hadn't thought about it that way. I think you brought that up early on in the Danmachi cross, but I'd completely forgotten about it.

Actually, the way that Taylor doesn't consider non-hosts real people could add an interesting dynamic to the Highschool DxD crossover I suggested here. In DxD, while joining a peerage turns you into a devil, most of the pieces were originally humans and still have human values. Even the couple of main devils at the school - Rias and Sona - have human values, and they try to socialize to a level with the humans around them. If Taylor sees devils as host equivalents and therefore actual people, but doesn't consider normal humans to be worth valuing, this could create tensions with others in her peerage.

Something else that occurred to me is that devils make contracts with humans who summon them, since if they fulfill the requests their own power increases. But to QA/Taylor, this could sound like the shard system of giving "gifts" to humans as part of the conflict cycle for research/growth. So when Rias or Sona asks them to do some contracts, they take up the role of a jackass genie who "grants" wishes by giving them powers akin to shards, in a way that will encourage conflict. Rias/Sona would probably stop it as soon as they learned what was going on, but QA/Taylor's misinterpretation of the contracts' purpose would further demonstrate their distorted understanding of things.
 
Cataquack said:
Good point, I hadn't thought about it that way. I think you brought that up early on in the Danmachi cross, but I'd completely forgotten about it.

Actually, the way that Taylor doesn't consider non-hosts real people could add an interesting dynamic to the Highschool DxD crossover I suggested here. In DxD, while joining a peerage turns you into a devil, most of the pieces were originally humans and still have human values. Even the couple of main devils at the school - Rias and Sona - have human values, and they try to socialize to a level with the humans around them. If Taylor sees devils as host equivalents and therefore actual people, but doesn't consider normal humans to be worth valuing, this could create tensions with others in her peerage.

Something else that occurred to me is that devils make contracts with humans who summon them, since if they fulfill the requests their own power increases. But to QA/Taylor, this could sound like the shard system of giving "gifts" to humans as part of the conflict cycle for research/growth. So when Rias or Sona asks them to do some contracts, they take up the role of a jackass genie who "grants" wishes by giving them powers akin to shards, in a way that will encourage conflict. Rias/Sona would probably stop it as soon as they learned what was going on, but QA/Taylor's misinterpretation of the contracts' purpose would further demonstrate their distorted understanding of things.
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I think this started off as this thread's content, then veered into Ideas Thread material. :p
 
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