So, completely unfamiliar with the setting...what, exactly, is a Named?
APGTE works off of narrative mechanics. The entire universe is a collection of fairy tales. Anyone who is Named is someone who has adopted a "major role" in a narrative. The "Black Knight". The "Warlock". The "Boy Adventurer". The "Dreaded Emperor". The "Wise King". Etc., etc..

Not all Names are created equal. And they can often be as much trouble as they're worth.
 
So, completely unfamiliar with the setting...what, exactly, is a Named?
Someone who embodies a character archetype, judging by Leafy's post above. Like the D&D Iconic example characters but called by their class instead of personal names, or the party in Order Of The Stick.
 
For those unfamiliar with PGTE, please note these bits.

Amadeus, the Black Knight, had told him that even waiting this long might slot Masego into a disadvantageous narrative. They would need to spend months watching for heroes trying to 'redeem' (read: kidnap) the innocent son of a Calamity.
Within a moment, Wekesa's surprise wore off and he set off at a fast pace that wasn't quite running. He mustn't run; Amadeus had repeatedly warned him against running in emergencies. Treating something like an emergency would let Creation turn it into one.

The world runs on narrative tropes. Masego, being the sheltered son of a famous villain, is ripe for a redemption plot if the heroes can get their mitts on him. Similarly, running during an emergency, or saying things like "What's the worst that can happen?", "It's quiet, too quiet", or "I am invincible!" tend to guarantee that Creation will accept the engraved invitation to fuck with your life. Conversely, for a villain to proclaim "No one could survive that!" as he tosses a hero off a high place, is to pretty much guarantee that a hero will survive.

The Black Knight of PGTE is particularly genre-savvy, and literally arranged for there to be orphanages in a conquered country in order to monitor for potential heroes. I suspect Taylor, daughter of Lit professor, might actually do pretty well in this world. QA? Might have a little more trouble understanding the narrative logic behind things. I suspect she'll have trouble understanding how tactics that would be foolish and inefficient in a non-narrative world, actually noticeably increases chances of one's survival in PGTE.
 
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Not all Names are created equal. And they can often be as much trouble as they're worth.
Indeed. Someone who is Squire, for instance, is rather decidedly lesser to Black Knight or White Knight despite having a lot in common with such Names/Concepts, but the Black and White Knights also act according to their more polarised roles as well, and a more neutral Name both does not require "taking a side" so much to be in harmony with its theme to thus leverage its power to greatest extent, and it isn't so fated to be opposed by someone with incompatible values. It had me curious indeed how someone who is Queen Administrator might be. That is not necessarily the dreaded Tyrant with the world in an iron grip, nor necessarily some beloved, wise sovereign guiding the nation in troubled times, but it is someone who would command absolute authority, none the less. For being a child, her narrative seems the sort to perhaps serve as a rallying focus to see the forces of good marshal to her direction and overthrow evil and instate her as the trusted ruler who carried them so far. The bad guys have done a good job of preventing exactly that sort of thing, but they're supposed to lose in the end; for trying to break the narrative, QA here may be the result of the narrative pushing back. She isn't even necessarily good, per se, just an agent of order that would have matters run properly and efficiently.
 
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Indeed. Someone who is Squire, for instance, is rather decidedly lesser to Black Knight or White Knight despite having a lot in common with such Names/Concepts, but the Black and White Knights also act according to their more polarised roles as well, and a more neutral Name both does not require "taking a side" so much to be in harmony with its theme to thus leverage its power to greatest extent, and it isn't so fated to be opposed by someone with incompatible values. It had me curious indeed how someone who is Queen Administrator might be. That is not necessarily the dreaded Tyrant with the world in an iron grip, nor necessarily some beloved, wise sovereign guiding the nation in troubled times, but it is someone who would command absolute authority, none the less. For being a child, her narrative seems the sort to perhaps serve as a rallying focus to see the forces of good marshal to her direction and overthrow evil and instate her as the trusted ruler who carried them so far. The bad guys have done a good job of preventing exactly that sort of thing, but they're supposed to lose in the end; for trying to break the narrative, QA here may be the result of the narrative pushing back. She isn't even necessarily good, per se, just an agent of order rhat would have matters run properly and efficiently.
Just what that world needs: a nation of The Mercykillers | The Multiverse | Obsidian Portal .
 
Bards tell stories. As opposed to someone who merely collects them.

If a person only ever collected stories, and never, ever told them, they would not be part of a story. To be a Name, you must act in the story.

Also, I'm not sure if you're familiar with PGTE, but there's a rather famous character there, name of Wandering Bard who, well... She might not often tell stories, but she is certainly one of the most knowledgeable in Story in all of Creation.
 
SO QA has been introduced into a world of Narrative Tropes as the most powerful and dreaded Archetype of all: the Mary Sue SI.

Think about it: She inexplicably showed up in a place she should not be in.
She has tremendous magical power for a child her age.
She immediately meets and befriends some important people.
Her Blue-and-Orange Morality makes her at odds with the world around her.

All she needs to do now is easily best some opponent, and the role will be complete.
 
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If we're talking about a Name as a collector of stories then I'd put my money on Sage or Loremaster.
 
SO QA has been introduced into a world of Narrative Tropes as the most powerful and dreaded Archetype of all: the Mary Sue SI.

Think about it: She inexplicably showed up in a place she should not be in.
She has tremendous magical power for a child her age.
She intermediately meets and befriends some important people.
Her Blue-and-Orange Morality makes her at odds with the world around her.

All she needs to do now is easily best some opponent, and the role will be complete.
that is scarily accurate. I want to see this.
 
And, importantly, also studies them and is supposed to impart such knowledge onto others. The idea of a literature professor being a sage of some sort makes considerable sense under the local rules.

mite arguable but Bard is such when it suits her. She also genuinely composed some to a lot of stories and songs in setting so she fits the story role.
And bard is more a role than a name she's had other hats like is implied by the dead king calling her intercessor. And the fact that she is probably older than any culture on the face of the continent of Calnernia considering she was old when the dead king was young. And names are directly tied to cultures in PGTE. Roles are less so.

edit: take the Orcs for example who after being crushed into the dirt by the Mieznians, A Roman Empire expy, and made into a helot race with their culture completely destroyed didn't produce another named for literal millennia.
 
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So, before this drifts too far, I should probably warn people that some setting spoilers may have been permitted for Danmachi, but spoiling things for APGTE after a brief teaser would be awkward. :p


SO QA has been introduced into a world of Narrative Tropes as the most powerful and dreaded Archetype of all: the Mary Sue SI.

Think about it: She inexplicably showed up in a place she should not be in.
She has tremendous magical power for a child her age.
She intermediately meets and befriends some important people.
Her Blue-and-Orange Morality makes her at odds with the world around her.

All she needs to do now is easily best some opponent, and the role will be complete.
I outright cackled. Thanks.
 
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While the snippet about APGTE was very interesting, I'd like to see it continued, and started the usual brainstorming about various settings QAylor could visit, remember that too much wandering goes against the staying in-topic policy. Do wander and wonder, but at least contribute to the thread topic.

I'm doing that by complimenting the snippet and trying to get the thread back on tracks, see?
 
SO QA has been introduced into a world of Narrative Tropes as the most powerful and dreaded Archetype of all: the Mary Sue SI.

Think about it: She inexplicably showed up in a place she should not be in.
She has tremendous magical power for a child her age.
She immediately meets and befriends some important people.
Her Blue-and-Orange Morality makes her at odds with the world around her.

All she needs to do now is easily best some opponent, and the role will be complete.

This is actually a perfectly viable power set, now that I think about it. A Mary Sue is perfect, right? Since the world works on narrative tropes, the Aspect of Mary Sue would turn a character into a perpetually-escalating engine of success or failure. To be in tune with the Aspect, the character would have to actually BE competent, friendly, liked and knowledgeable. Every time they casually succeed, they become more of a Mary Sue, and thus more in tune with the Aspect, increasing their power and allowing them to keep escalating their perfection. Yet, the moment they fail, they would cease to be perfect, and thus fail at being a Mary Sue. As a result, they would stop being in tune with the Aspect of Mary Sue and would start losing power, increasing the chances of further failure and the consequent loss of power; so on and so forth.

Basically, it'd be the ultimate Charisma build. If you convince everyone around you that you are perfect, you would receive the power to become perfect, but the moment you botch a Charm check, you start to lose power. So, you'd need to start doing rolls for Charm to arrest your own fall.
 
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This is actually a perfectly viable power set, now that I think about it. A Mary Sue is perfect, right? Since the world works on narrative tropes, the Aspect of Mary Sue would turn a character into a perpetually-escalating engine of success or failure. To be in tune with the Aspect, the character would have to actually BE competent, friendly, liked and knowledgeable. Every time they casually succeeded, they became more of a Mary Sue, and thus more in tune with the Aspect, increasing their power and allowing them to keep escalating their perfection. Yet, the moment they failed, they would cease to be perfect, and thus fail at being a Mary Sue. As a result, they would stop being in tune with the Aspect of Mary Sue and would start losing power, increasing their chances of further failure and the consequent loss of power, so on and so forth.

Basically, it'd be the ultimate Charisma build. If you convince everyone around you that you are perfect, you would receive the power to become perfect, but the moment you botch a Charm check, you start to lose power. So, you'd need to start doing rolls for Charm to arrest your own fall.
now I am imagining QAylor if 40K as CIAPHAS CAIN! HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!
 
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