- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
"Be careful — those adorable puffballs of hers can probably smell fear."
(They could.)
It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])
(They could.)
Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
- Location
- Somewhere in the corners of my imagination
...I am confused by what Fate's Grace or Entwined Threads actually does? Fate's Grace sounds like "you can grow more" and "Entwined Threads" sounds like a basic boost of ability for all within the effect? But neither of them really sounds like anything Taylor crafted to use on Ishtar's Familia? I don't really see what plagiarising is happening?
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, Danmachi spells don't come with detailed descriptions, just chants. We'll get to cover the effects soon.
Yes, the skill really is basically "you can grow more."
I apparently failed proper description; I'll go back and edit more detail into the chapter when I'm back on a computer. The plagiarism is because Taylor tried to give herself and QA a new skill. The Fates then used her divine-derived methods to hijack it and grant the same thing, but with a different name and flavor text.
And she hasn't technically started the dungeon yet either.
"Adventurers Hate Her: This girl leveled up without killing even a single monster! Click to learn how!"
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Neruz
Rogue Spiderbanana
- Location
- The Land of Fire and Poison
It depends, sometimes you get a description that explains what the spell or skill does, sometimes you just get a chant or vague nonsense and have to work it out for yourself. Sometimes you don't need a description because the spell or skill is obvious, ex: Firebolt. (It shoots a bolt of fire at a target. Duh.)
As a useful note; generally speaking the more vague a spell or skill description, the more powerful the spell\skill in question is.
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Hmmm, should probably keep this tidbit to herself. The illusion of a nation backing her child is more powerful than just if QA did it by her lonesome.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Ah, but it's not more powerful than QA doing it by herself and having a nation of people who can do the same backing her up!
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I've edited in some more detail into Dreamer's section. Does that help enough, or should I try to add more?
Any retaliation is less likely if they think a nation is backing QA up. If they find out it's just her they might just take her out preemptively.
This sounds like some kind of proportional boost for the weaker party members. Maybe something like "temporarily adjust stats to the average among the targets". Synergizes well with Terpsichore and, probably, Chiron/Teacher of Heroes.
So not allowed to resurrect people, no time shenanigans and no messing with gods' ability to use their Arcanum? Basically, "don't break important stuff".
Also, poor Hestia. Good thing she doesn't know.
edit: Spell text quoted weirdly for some reason.
edit2: Authentic spell text.
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Neruz
Rogue Spiderbanana
- Location
- The Land of Fire and Poison
Eh, the impression I got is that Hestia now thinks that QA is part of a nation that is at least partially comprised of multiple Spirits forming a pseudo-familia, rather than just QA and Taylor by themselves, and that said Spirits normally take mortal 'hosts' for some reason or another, which situation ended up inadvertently swapping places when Taylor was 'hurt' somehow, causing QA to take the place of her mortal host while Taylor became a Spirit; something that should have been impossible and\or fatal but managed to happen anyway because Spirits are known for breaking rules and doing the impossible.
Neruz
Rogue Spiderbanana
- Location
- The Land of Fire and Poison
That was because he thought Bell was cute and wanted to bone him though.
Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
- Location
- Somewhere in the corners of my imagination
I think I was mainly confused because the last time we saw Dreamer actively messing with Falna, or making a poem, it was to do with the Ishtar Curse, and neither the new spell nor skill sound like that. So... I guess you're saying that at some point after that, Dreamer was trying to make "you can grow more" as a skill for QA? But that was never mentioned. All I can recall is that Dreamer was working on shadow magic, and more recently, on space magic, but this is the first time I heard she had been working on "you can grow more" magic.
And I'm just like... why? When? What poem just got erased? Why this skill instead of a "curse your enemies" or "benefit your allies" or "teleportation" skill? It just seems like it has nothing to do with what came before? QA was already growing ridiculously quickly, did she really need more potential? When did Dreamer decide that was an important thing for QA to have?
Nah, Apollo is more into the looks then anything.
Yep, entirely superficial that god.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
So... Permanent increase to level-based soft-cap, a spell that is exceptionally well-suited to swarm tactics (my current guess is some sort of trait sharing thing, maybe health-sharing too), and nobody even mentioning how QAylor's magic went up to almost 500 while her strength -- her lowest stat IIRC -- is almost 90, and she hasn't even killed a single monster.
That'll be interesting.
In other news, Hestia continues to be Best Inexperienced Familia Mom. She's turning "I Have No Idea What I'm Doing But I'm Sure Hard Work Will Fix It" into a divine artform.
That'll be interesting.
In other news, Hestia continues to be Best Inexperienced Familia Mom. She's turning "I Have No Idea What I'm Doing But I'm Sure Hard Work Will Fix It" into a divine artform.
... What the hell's the point of a murderfloof that can't smell fear? Also, Flying murderfloof-wasp-spider drone hordes when?
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- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hmm. Edited in some extra bits just prior to the Fates speaking up. That help? I'm not sure; I seem to have fallen into the trap of "the
EDIT: A few extra edits to that area.
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Daimah
Lurking lurker that lurks
- Location
- home
True, he's totally a creep. But I thought that the fact that Hestia rejected him back in Tenkai played a part in his forcing the war game. Maybe I'm wrong.
Also if he decided he wanted Queen Administrator in his familia I wonder how he would go about provoking the war game here. After all the last goddess that insulted her ended up cursed so his canon plan would backfire on him.
Any canon examples for scale? I have no idea how much 500 or 90 is.
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
"Sell ya a door Learn gull," Czly/Celly for short
- Location
- Where the Beef is
- Pronouns
- Any
Aa! Megami-sama! aka Oh! My Goddess! is a slice-of-life-ish romcom manga and anime franchise about how Belldandy, Norn of the Present, has a sweet and wholesome romance with Keiichi, a sort of nebbish of a college kid studying engineering and involved in the racing club. Bell-sama is pretty much the Yamato Nadesico ideal feminine homemaker with Enuff Dakka if you actually manage to make her angry, fortunately this is very hard to do. Along the way, her sisters Urd and Skuld show up to hang out with their beloved middle sis and add their own flavors of shenanigans. Urd (older) is mostly a layabout when she's not in sysadmin crisis mode dealing with some problem in Yggdrasil, while Skuld (younger) is a Mad SCIENCE! inventor/mechanic. I think those ages are flipped from the mythological Norns, but anime adaptations, you know?
Various other gods and goddesses appear occasionally, the only one whose name I can remember being Peorth, along with a few demons, primary being Marller and her imp minion Senbei. Hild is in charge of Hell, Judeo-Christian big-G God appears to be running Heaven. Keichi has a bratty younger sister named Megumi, who most of the fandom dislikes to a greater or lesser degree, and who isn't in on the whole "brother's girfreind is a literal goddess" thing. It is by turns tooth achingly sweet and somewhat action-y, and the vehicle designs are super-detailed because Kōsuke Fujishima is a giant motorsports nerd. His previous series was You're Under Arrest! which has similar mechanical detail, and he's been the character designer for a bunch of the Tales of ____ video game series.
Oh My Goddess! - Wikipedia
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Neruz
Rogue Spiderbanana
- Location
- The Land of Fire and Poison
To be fair, she is the Goddess of Hearth and Home, she should be good at being in charge of a family.
While it is mentioned that Hestia rejected him a bunch back in Tenkai, there isn't actually any indication that it had anything to do with his attempt to acquire Bell; he tried to get Bell because Bell was cute and he wanted a new bed warmer. Bell's fame and being part of Hestia Familia were just what brought him to Apollo's attention in the first place.
Scale isn't really possible, as Falna doesn't take into account pre-Falna training and attribute scores reset with every level. The only thing that can be said is that normally, prior to Bell breaking the stat cap, 999 is the max a stat can reach and it typically takes years, if not over a decade of dedicated effort to reach that cap. Most adventurers never reach the cap prior to leveling, and doing so is seen as a sign of exceptional ability.
Reaching A rank (800 - 900) in any stat prior to levelling is considered very good, while reaching S rank (900 - 999) is considered exceptional. SS rank (999+) is literally unheard of\impossible until Bell breaks the Falna with his ridiculous stat growth.
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- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Not that I know. People went and made a huge kerfkuffle (as in, "what is this I don't even!) over Bell's getting "All A" stats when they got a chance to see his Falna when he was still Level 1. I THINK the numbers were 999'd.
Oh dear. Just had a moment in the re-read: The Fates did this because they are pleased. Read the poems -- especially the Fate's Grace poem. QAylor gave people back their ability to act on their own after having their capacity to pray for salvation taken away. Taken away by a goddess.
The Fates' big thing is, as mentioned, that other gods aren't supposed to do that sort of thing, at least not as an institution.
Welp.
- Location
- A Table Near You
Way too high for a single day's growth. Stat max is normally 999, and it usually takes adventurers years to approach the cap, assuming they reach it all. (They almost always don't, even if they level up.)
QAylor's stats are something you'd expect to see on a mage with 6+ months of experience, not 3 or 4 days.
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- Location
- Belfast
To put it this way 500-700 is what most people have when they are getting close to leveling up if I remember correctly, and that usually takes years to reach.
Aiz was seen as a ridiculously quick level up having reached that sort of level or just beyond in a year or so, so for QA/Taylor to have reached that level even in a single stat within 2-3 days is kinda ridiculous.
Aww, look! Taylor is moving up in the world. Her name's changing.
And now I'm trying to figure out if I have enough of an idea to write a mini-omake about Queen Administrator and her new strange habit of always talking to her tea before drinking it. Taylor would certainly want to give her new sister a heads-up about the dangers of careless tea drinking. The fact that it makes for some funny social interactions in her favourite reality show certainly doesn't hurt.
It certainly was a massive increase. Last time they checked she hadn't even reached one hundred in any stat, so it isn't surprising that Hestia took it as evidence that the curse was Taylor's effort.
Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
- Location
- Somewhere in the corners of my imagination
Ok, yeah, I think that's better. At least it explains why Dreamer decided to give QA that particular skill, even if it wasn't particularly reflective of recent events. It's already been established that Dreamer can make whatever skill she wants, and you did say she only worked for a few hours on it. I can guess that she got cocky after the success of her curse (even though she doesn't remember casting it) and decided it'd be a good idea to use the xp she got from that kerfuffle to give QA a skill so her Stats wouldn't be literally impossible.
Except I guess she didn't notice the Fates backtracking her from the work she did on the Curse, so they were able to be right there watching her work on her new skill, and able to hack her processes to edit her avatar's abilities to their liking instead, just like how she hacked the falna of Ishtar's Familia. Is that basically what happened?
Also, just wondering, but is Neruz right about Hestia now thinking that "QA is part of a nation that is at least partially comprised of multiple Spirits forming a pseudo-familia, rather than just QA and Taylor by themselves, and that said Spirits normally take mortal 'hosts' for some reason or another"? I've been trying to keep track of Hestia (and Orario's) shifting opinion of QA's backstory, so this is interesting to me. She thinks of Taylor now as a "child Spirit" capable of enacting vengeance on the gods through sacrifice. Does she also think of QA as a child Spirit who happens to be controlling a mortal body?