In Nuclear Fire

I'll need to ask the opinion of someone more knowledgeable of police procedures, I'm not entirely sure how Sophia being underage would fit into all this even whe she's on probation.
The tricky thing is what they can't do with Sofia they might be able to with shadow stalker. It's a weird legality thing.

The bio-Assault against a girl with bio waste that made her have to go to the hospital of federal property (I am assuming schools are considered federal, but government property is good enough).

So ya there have a case with the victim pointing out a number of people they claim attacked them. This might be enough grounds for a warrant to search phones.
 
Seeing as this isn't a Quest (and I may be mixing this up with WoG from a different ToF thing) my hope is that he rolls for it off of a list but only keeps the roll if he can cone up with a general outline of what he'll do with it (and the consequences of such) in the next fifteen minutes.
I think the specialty switches is predetermined. I remember a post where Poli lists the next specialties.
 
Welp...... Mecha Ultralisk project is still ongoing I assume?
You know........ Just in case Tagg were becoming the director and PRT start militarizing their troops.
(Sorry about the grammar)
 
The tricky thing is what they can't do with Sofia they might be able to with shadow stalker. It's a weird legality thing.


The bio-Assault against a girl with bio waste that made her have to go to the hospital of federal property (I am assuming schools are considered federal, but government property is good enough).

So ya there have a case with the victim pointing out a number of people they claim attacked them. This might be enough grounds for a warrant to search phones.
Public schools are municipal government property. They're funded out of county property taxes primarily, with federal subsidy from the Department of Education so long as they are compliant with federal standards.

That being said, there is a federal statute or two for bioweapons that would apply to the Trio -- at least one of which comes with a mandatory life sentence if convicted. Note that this is not "bioterrorism" but the "intentional development, production, stockpiling, transfer, or acquisition of a biological agent, toxin, or delivery system for any purpose other than prophylaxis or legitimate research."

The girls fermented biological waste for multiple weeks with the express purpose of assaulting someone with it.

That's not just the production of bioweapons (a single scratch from being forced in that locker and Taylor would have been subject to any manner of bloodborne pathogens), it's assault with a deadly weapon. At the very least, there's a reason why it's recommended practice to frequently dispose of any trash with used hygiene products or else keep it in biohazard receptacles; so there's no way the Trio could plead ignorance about the severity of what they did. Depraved indifference, yes. Ignorance, no.

This is one of those things where Wildbow's dedication to grimderp has people writing off federal felonies as "teens will be teens".

Welp...... Mecha Ultralisk project is still ongoing I assume?
You know........ Just in case Tagg were becoming the director and PRT start militarizing their troops.
(Sorry about the grammar)

After this fiasco there's no way in hell Peter hasn't stepped up literally every aspect of Mecha-Zerg production. I mean, he's an Insert and knows the PRT's response to a successful "open Warlord" is "kill 'em All and Let God Sort Them Out" Tagg.
 
Last edited:
I can't wait for the PRT to figure out Peter and Taylor started out trying to be heroes and help people but Armaster turned them against it The director is thinking its gonna be turned on him but actually, its gonna be turned on Arsmaster
 
After this fiasco there's no way in hell Peter hasn't stepped up literally every aspect of Mecha-Zerg production. I mean, he's an Insert and knows the PRT's response to a successful "open Warlord" is "kill 'em All and Let God Sort Them Out" Tagg.
I'll admit, a little part of me wants him to go full memetic-Skitter escalation. He knows how things tend to go in this setting. He's also not above being a little petty and more than a little reckless.

He makes an army? It's either successful in taking over a U.S. city or it's crushed. If the latter, and when he's captured, he tells the PRT with a blank face that of course that's not everything he had, duh. He's sent out dozens of kinda-seed-ai to burrow and spread outward and produce more of his bots. They also conveniently see him as a friend, and would very much like him to keep his freedom. No, he can't stop them - what idiot would sabotage his fuck all this shit contingency? Now don't they wish they sat down and talked earlier?
 
When it comes to the goverment & the mainstream media, the narrative is king. If it doesn't fit the narrative, it gets ignored in the hopes that the news dies due to lack of coverage. That's why they're not focusing on how Heavy Gear saved a lot of lives from rampaging E88 capes.
 
These last two chapters really irked me. All those narrowminded people at PHO and Cauldron with their fucking Warlord experiment just riles me up!

I can only wish the best for Renick and his attempt at salvaging this mess of a situation.

Agree regarding Renick.

The flip is that it is important to remember that most people don't have the greater context we have. They are only seeing what the news media is supplying and what the Social Media Poison is spewing. Additionally, Peter shut down after the first kill mentally as he cleaned territory because most human are -surprise surprise- opposed to killing other humans. General Marshall did a big study of this for the US post WW2 and thus why we have weapons that fire on auto and a bunch of other adpations to make it easier to soldiers to get over that hurdle.

For someone watching this, seeing someone place slice and dice on the evening news is going to produce emotional responses. Especially when that someone is the 'other' (inhuman as all parahuman are) killing humans.




Ok if Costa Brown is suppoused to be on the whole Feudalism expariment, why the heck is she sending Tagg? Does she want a war to start earlier?


I mean, he wont even try to talk with Heavy Gear, he is fucked either way

Honestly, its like Costa Brown wants to sabotage the PRT with how hands off she is over Brockton Bay. Yeah yeah, its Cauldron's 'feudalism experiment', but the splash back affects all of the PRT outside of Brockton.
And its gonna get worse since Renick refuses to see Heavy Gear as anything but children who needs to be 'saved', and Tagg is gonna try to fight a war against someone with Mecha-Zerg.

For me this reads more as an overreaction being forced onto her by Congress and others at the failing of the PRT. While Cauldron is likely happy with this, they aren't totally acting in a vaccum and if they don't want to National Guard to roll in guns blazing with orders to kill any non-Protectorate Parahuman and their supports then they have to do something to seem to be stabilizing the situation.


For a lot of the other comments I am seeing,

It seems like a bunch of you are assuming the PRT, Protectorate, Cauldron, Heavy Gear, etc are acting with perfect knowledge of everything that happens. One place @Poliamida has done very well is maintain the fog and friction that develops between discreet groups that are not apart of one another.

There is no evidence of the locker that the PRT knows about, how can they take action. So far as we know, they are only now both aware and able to take action based on what they have learned what with the Bakuda bombings, a villain as the guy in charge, the Nazi's attempting to blitzkrieg and finding out they ran into a killing ground, and everything else they have to deal with they haven't had a lot of time to do anything else for the past little bit. School only just recently came back in session.

@Poliamida

I enjoyed the Rennick Interlude. The PHO bit was a bit short, a bit light on content, and seemed very limited. That said it did a good job of capturing the feel of the flamewar/shitshow/inherent problems with social media pretty well. I just would have like to see a few other threads. Either the Heavy Gear specific one, a section of the forums where the guy who recognized the Fight pulls an image from that old cartoon, or an update from the Empire's thread where the echo chamber and the effects the death of one and loss of many capes is shared by likeminded people. r/nonewnormal on Reddit is proof that no platform is without its groups that are wildly different in belief from popular parts of the site.

Rennick was good though, and the threat of Tagg is a great one to add tension to everything. His pick of Taylor is risky as a focus, but not a terrible one depending on how it is handled. While one option would be to name her as a person of interest in Winslow's burning as a person with motive, the evidence is not strong and it might be hard to get a jury that will convict since it needs to be unanimous and I doubt Pathy the Wonder Girl is going to spend her limited time and other resources to get the right one. I look forward to seeing how Rennick reacts with the Three teens in a trenchcoat bit is revealed. Even moreso if Aisha still isn't a parahuman by that point.

"Yeah, you can't make me a Ward."

"Yes we can. Otherwise you go to Juvie."

"Well that is going to be interesting, how the fuck are you going to make a normie like me a Ward? Is it open to all delinquent kids in need of a chance to find there way back to the straight and narrow under the guidance of such wonderful folks as Robotman the unfeeling or Gungirl the Useless?"
 
After this fiasco there's no way in hell Peter hasn't stepped up literally every aspect of Mecha-Zerg production. I mean, he's an Insert and knows the PRT's response to a successful "open Warlord" is "kill 'em All and Let God Sort Them Out" Tagg.
I really hope that in the unlikely event that the PRT pushes to attack HG that they (under advice from Newt) would treat them like any other enemy rather than the lawful authorities.

By that I mean Escalade if they do. I am not saying go directly for the kill. I am just saying if it's between killing a hero and them being captured (which will not end well for them) then going for the kill is acceptable.

If the government agency is willing to attack you in order to not look bad in the media, and has refused to work with you unless it's under their own terms (the previous director) that means surrendering to them is a bad move.

Plus Scion is a thing, so if their tech production is stoped or limited it would mean GGWP a few years down the line.

Plus if they fully surrender to the PRT or get captured and investigated, they will likely issue a kill order on what they perceive as artificial intelligences. Which means any attempt to subdue them could mean lethal repercussions to 1 or more of their members. So the use of lethal force would be justified.

Funny thing is that if I am not mistaken the second amendment was put in place to allow citizens to defend themselves from a tyrannical government if the need should arise. To make sure that the government can't just wave their guns around and force you to comply while normal citizens are unable to do anything about it.

So the PRT's way of doing things (if exposed publicly with the right PR) would cause a lot of fallout should their enemy be strong enough to resist their initial assault, able to prove what the PRT are doing, and be strong enough (and have the resources) to hold out while the PRT tries to start a smear campaign against them or cut them off and dismantle them.

Though I do like the acting director's idea of bringing in independent Aid from outside the city. It might not reflect well on the PRT if someone spins it as them not being able to handle the mess alone, but it's a good call for the cities safety. And that should be the top priority.

Though this does have the potential to backfire on the PRT quite badly, if those independents join HG.
 
I can't wait for the PRT to figure out Peter and Taylor started out trying to be heroes and help people but Armaster turned them against it The director is thinking its gonna be turned on him but actually, its gonna be turned on Arsmaster
How did Armsmaster do this? I really don't remember what he did in this story that would drive Heavy Gear away. Call them irresponsible and needing guidance isn't really enough to get him in trouble since Renick also believes they ar children that need adults to look out for them.

Did Armsmaster still lie about stuff in his official reports to take credit for Heavy Gears accomplishments? I can't remember if he did that in this story.
 
that would put in question how many of Heavy Gear's members are human, if any
It's funny how he came to this conclusion, yet he didn't bring up that their supposed "leader" might not be a human.

The funny thing is that Peter is about to make a Blade that can revive the recently killed, so taking them out would be super bad PR, specially if said Blade was present at the next endbringer fight.

This should also make it easier to presses Taylor's mom being brought back from the dead (as a Death Knight from WoW) as there would be an established procedure on how to treat people who are legally dead but then aren't dead any more. And life insurance companies will want to update their terms and conditions.

I Hope that WoW is the tech-tree after next (since next tech tree is already set).

Edit:
How did Armsmaster do this? I really don't remember what he did in this story that would drive Heavy Gear away. Call them irresponsible and needing guidance isn't really enough to get him in trouble since Renick also believes they ar children that need adults to look out for them.

Did Armsmaster still lie about stuff in his official reports to take credit for Heavy Gears accomplishments? I can't remember if he did that in this story.
No I don't think armsmaster did anything that would have been outside of protocol with them. They never wanted to join the PRT, but the one that drove them away (well refused to cooperate with them) is the previous director.
 
Last edited:
The funny thing is that Peter is about to make a Blade that can revive the recently killed, so taking them out would be super bad PR, specially if said Blade was present at the next endbringer fight.

I forgot about this with everything else going on. I'm not sure how good this Blade is supposed to be at reviving, but imagine... The next time anyone tries to attack the Heavy Gear, the kids go full lethal from the start, then just, brings everyone back to life and tells them "Next time you stay dead."
 
Could be Bonesaw with that user name. That is what I immediately jumped to when they asked about biotinkers.

►Poppet Replied On Jun 5th 2011:Sorry but I'm not reading 250 pages when so many of them are just deleted notifications.Has anyone commented on the fact that Heavy Gear apparently has a Bio Tinker?
Suspicious.

►Poppet Replied On Jun 5th 2011:I was there, trapped in a building that was in flames. He saved me.
But this comment suggests it's someone that lives in the Docks. I don't who this could be. Parian doesn't live there, so I can only guess it was one of Peter's or Taylor's former classmates. I guess it could be someone Peter saved and nothing more.
 
Plot-twist, Poppet could be Madison. After all, the handle does fit the persona she puts up in public. Would be funny to see the reactions to this in-story if they ever meet.
Though iirc, I read somewhere her username is SpecificProtagonist, but not sure if that is just fanon,
 
I forgot about this with everything else going on. I'm not sure how good this Blade is supposed to be at reviving, but imagine... The next time anyone tries to attack the Heavy Gear, the kids go full lethal from the start, then just, brings everyone back to life and tells them "Next time you stay dead."
Not really, I don't see the point of bringing back enemies. On the contrary that could make them a lot more deadly as they wont fear death as much if they think that they get 1 free pass or something. It might even be on a subconscious.

No what his would do is make it so every person who died in this attach (That is not a Nazi) would be brought back to life, thus showing that they are still able to protect the people in their care.

It would also deter other groups somewhat since they can revive even if you kill them.

In endbringer fights though this can be a game changer. And the government would be willing to grant a decent number of concessions to people who would make a significant difference in an endbringer fight. Or as shown in the fanfic Bottled Power government officials might buy a revival insurance policy from them.
 
Wow that is really dumb of Alexandria...tag is is basically all the MCU and DC generals who believe that since they work for the law they can do all the shady shit they want
 
Nice move. I hope Tagg manages to take control of Brocton PTR. That way my desire to see the Swarm would be guranteed. And after Peter crushes Tagg there is no way he can stay on the good side of braindead frightened normies in the Gov. War against the world needs your sacrifice, mr Tagg!

May be Tagg even manages to move Taylor past her relutance to kill her enemies. Full Warlord no merci no hesitation Queen of Escalation backed by infinite power of Peter is such a glorious combo.
 
Last edited:
Just to point out, Renick put the Empire as priority one. Any combat capacity is going against the Empire primarily. From what I read in the Interlude Heavy Gear is going to be the focus of the PRT legal teams directly or indirectly. I can imagine that there might be some tense standoffs but there this lowers the chance of actual official orders to engage in combat significantly. It doesn't prevent someone in the field from having an itchy trigger finger, but official Orders to engage seem to be dropping.

Regarding Tagg, we also have to consider that Renick might be wrong about him. Tagg did a number of things in Worm that were questionable from our perspective. But lets remember that he did it against an actual Warlord. The Warlord that killed his Predecessor. Without Tagg actually knowing that Calvert was a Villian.
In this example I would consider it possible (if reasonable unlikely, depending on Tagg's knowledge) that Tagg just sends orders to Heavy Gear to fill out their NGO Papers damn it. Because baring the aggressive defense that is how they act. Shift the focus on Heavy Gears support of the population, the fact that they take donations instead of tribute etc. Also play up the self defense angle of everything they did.
 
Well, if there is one thing I can say, that would be a very kind farewell to Tagg, Alexandria, and Cauldron. Goodbye, agents of plot advancement!

EDIT: Also, the Slaughterhouse is coming to the town! Hope MC'd be able to come out not-insane, at least.
 
Last edited:
I can't wait for the PRT to figure out Peter and Taylor started out trying to be heroes and help people but Armaster turned them against it The director is thinking its gonna be turned on him but actually, its gonna be turned on Arsmaster


Well... That's funny because looks like no one noticed this on the last chapter:

Old and new officers alike had felt reinvigorated by the news. They could do it! They were no longer fighting a losing war, but one that they may win! Renick himself would have carried Armsmaster

Renick doesn't have freaking idea that Stickonassmaster took the credit from The Fight! Before reading that I thought that between Stickonassmaster and Piggot decided to do that but looks like no, the parahuman took the credit by his own initiative, lying his bosses. Or at best (still very bad), they don't said Renick. Just imagine that tomorrow HG made public that. Renick would look very different to him.
 
Getting access to Sophia's phone would be relatively easy, but I doubt she'd be stupid enough to keep dangerous information in the phone that's official property of the PRT. It's Emma's phone the one they want, and she's an unrelated civilian.
She's smart enough to keep her incriminating texts on her other phone, but dumb enough to carry both phones while in costume (See Interlude 10, where Regent takes both of her phones out of her costume, and forwards a load of incriminating texts).

I'd be shocked if they didn't have the right to search her phone on more or less any pretext, given her probationary status.
MM also wasn't a child soldier and I wish that fanon would die.
Define child soldier.

She wasn't given an AK and sent to shoot people, but she was absolutely forced to act in a way that furthered a military goal and risked her well-being. That's close enough to a child soldier that it works as a shorthand.
 
Thanks for update(s)!

You are currently logged in, Poppet
Poppet? Sounds familiar... Oh, shit. Oh, shit! OH SHIT!

►Poppet
Replied On Jun 5th 2011:
I was there,
Certainly hope that either I (and some other people in the thread) wrong about who she is, or she lied. Because if they already here... Wait, then maybe Leviathan will carry out wet cleaning. :ogles:

This id the first time seeing Renick act like Armsmaster, or make that particular mistake.
He's in the corner. He have nowhere to go, and he been forced to do something, anything that have even a slight chance to improve situation.
I, for one, suspect Contessa's plot here. Because without a "sword of Damocles" in the face of Tagg over his head, he could have acted more calmly and accurately, and had a chance to establish cooperation with Heavy Gear. While Contessa, with her Path to Victory With As Much Conflicts Along The Way As Possible, wants ESCALATION from HG in general, and Priest specifically.

Ok if Costa Brown is suppoused to be on the whole Feudalism expariment, why the heck is she sending Tagg? Does she want a war to start earlier?
Because experiment is over? It was about Coil, not just any parahuman(s). They have plenty of warlords in Africa to see "some random parahuman in charge".

Peter's automated mass production capability is kind of an OCP for Earth-Bet.
Not really? Machine Army is a thing, after all. So, they know about self-replicating tinkertech that don't need maintenance.

If it doesn't hit Brockton Bay, I don't think Heavy Gear's teleportation stuff will let them bring them there
Why not? They just need to bring one portal-bug with them.

I find Renick's quest to bring down the villainous Belisarius Cawl rather compelling.
Yep. And I have to remind you, that they suspected Danny to be Cawl... Well, he kind of deserve to be called a bad parental figure, but not for reasons Renick thinks.

I think that's another fanon thing. There are no Google hits for the word "poppet" on parahumans.wordpress.com, at least.
THANKS GOD! WE SAVED... Wait a second. That doesn't mean author doesn't use it. WE STILL DOOMED!

Welp...... Mecha Ultralisk project is still ongoing I assume?
Ready to deployment:
"I think it's time for us to reveal the big guns. The ones you know about. Because if these assholes think that they can fuck us over, we should show them that we can fuck them back just as hard!"

The Ultralisks.

We could have unleashed them in this last battle, but only as a last resort in case defeat had become a real possibility. All the destruction we just caused pales before what a single Ultraliks would have brought to the field.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top