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It was already said, if you don't mind you could check the spoiler.

World of Darkness, yes the place where the vampires from Vampire the Masquerade unlive and believe that they are the top dogs while they really aren't.
Oooh IDK what that is but it sounds like he can cause an Alucard amount of damage.
Nah JK no one can cause the same amount of damage as the Crimson Fucker himself.
 
Eden's shards being dead and being used by humans for their powers are the closest thing you have to a fully benevolent higher power.
IIRC, they still have conflict drive, just, without proper Trigger event, cannot fine tune it for a specific person, so it is less effective.

Also, there is some natural triggers with Eden's Shards, even after her "death". Like Leet.
 
IIRC, they still have conflict drive, just, without proper Trigger event, cannot fine tune it for a specific person, so it is less effective.

It's definitely weaker when it comes to them.

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As a distinct, noticeable trend, Cauldron capes are less inclined to go off the deep end. They wouldn't be more prone to reinforcing behavior or subtly using powers to generate conflict. At most, they have residual patterns/programming, that aren't tailored to their host. (ie. go subtle, let them think they have more control than they do, then in a moment of high emotion, activate power). A simple formula that's going to generate high conflict a great deal of the time.
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tavarain:Everyone here seems to be more concerned about getting case-53'd than they do the new "Conflict Libido" you'd receive....

Wildbow: Cauldron capes don't Conflict Libido to the same extent. They can get built-in conflict generators in the power, but not a libido per se.

Also, Conflict Libido is such a hilarious way to refer to Conflict Drive. :D

I think built-in Conflict Generators would be powers like Crimson's or the Fairy Queen's. Powers like those fundamentally work in a way that just using them is going to cause a fight or death because that's how they work. Crimson needs a lot of blood to activate his Brute powers and Glaistig Uaine without any collected shades has to start somewhere by killing some parahuman.

Also, there is some natural triggers with Eden's Shards, even after her "death". Like Leet.

There are, but plenty of Eden's Shards that naturally connect to people are still dead because they aren't connected to the wider Shard Space. While Leet's Shard is trying to get him killed, the fact he's so passive with it somewhat points to the conflict drive being out of whack for them.

Either way, it's specific that Vial Parahumans are what make organizations like the Elite and Protectorate possible. Without them, any group larger than ten parahumans quickly fragments and falls apart because of conflict drive making cooperation too difficult.
 
Omake: Well, She Met Him
Omake: Well, She Met Him


As the Undersiders made their way towards Heavy Gear's base, Tattletale filtered out the inane chatter from Regent about asking Tech Priest to make him a new gaming rig, and focused on trying to figure out what this meeting was for. They had begun their operation to topple the Empire, but there shouldn't have been any further work on that front, unless Peter had somehow managed to achieve results that fast.

Is not related to plan.

As always, her power chose to pipe up when she didn't need it. Focusing, she shoved her inner Sherlock down, knowing she'd probably need to bring her A-game for whatever she found at the base.

Soon, they were outside the old warehouse that served as Heavy Gear's headquarters. Outside, they were met by Newt, seemingly acting as a Bouncer.

After the identification process that the Undersiders and Heavy Gear had developed to prevent possible intrusion (at Newt's insistence), they were allowed into the base. As they made their way to the main room, she began hearing sounds that indicated someone aside from the normal inhabitants were in there.

Person is around 3 meters tall, weighs 500 pounds, has centipede like legs.

Shaking her head, she assumed that this was another of Peter's creations. With those dimensions, it was incredibly unlikely that whatever this was was a person.

Rounding the corner, she took in the sight before her. It rapidly became apparent that no, her power had not in fact been given garbage data. There before her was, apparently, Archmagos Belisarius Cawl.

It was a good two hours later that they managed to get away from this creepy cyborg. Her power was going haywire trying to figure out what the deal was with Belisarius Cawl, and she was developing a wicked headache.

All the same, she was grateful for some reason to be talking with Tech Priest instead. At least this would be relatively simple.

"Well, I told you wouldn't like it if he were here," the little shit said.

Leveling the best glare she had at him, she plopped down on the nearest thing she could find to sit on, which happened to be a nice chair. The rest of her team stood around her awkwardly.

Grue, although non-plussed by Cawl, recovered admirably and began questioning what had happened.

AN. admittedly this one is a bit short. There was supposed to be more where Cawl is inspecting them, and Tattletale realizes what Peter meant when he said that she wouldn't like it if Cawl was really here. I'm really struggling with the part where Cawl gets up in their faces and weirds them out with his analysis of them.
 
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I just realized something. There's a chance that the Travelers still end up in Brockton Bay even with Coil gone. Krouse seeking out help for Noelle from Tech Priest, since he's been on the news with doing medical stuff.
No they won't come to the Bay. They needed Coil and Accord to work shìt out between them before it happened.

They would need to get into contact with Peter first before moving. The fact that there is a case 53 (to outside viewers) on their team that isn't cured would mean they can't fix it.

So no, I don't think they would be moving to the Bay. I think they are far more likely to Stay in Boston for a bit longer making the endbringer attack there.
 
Just starting out. It seems like MC's background needs a bit of rework - he is said to had been adult before the insertion, but in practice both his emotions, intelligence and decision process fit much closer to mid-teens, sometimes below, but typically not above. It would make more sense if he was around, or a bit below Taylor's age initially. At least that's how it looks in first 6 chapters.
 
Just starting out. It seems like MC's background needs a bit of rework - he is said to had been adult before the insertion, but in practice both his emotions, intelligence and decision process fit much closer to mid-teens, sometimes below, but typically not above. It would make more sense if he was around, or a bit below Taylor's age initially. At least that's how it looks in first 6 chapters.

Dunno i think is more Peter trying to deal with some issues without going in a psychotic break that being childish it end up edgy and snapy when he wasnt snarking that's sadly isn't something unique to teens end being how some adult's deal with their problems

Then again have been a while since i read those character's
 
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Just starting out. It seems like MC's background needs a bit of rework - he is said to had been adult before the insertion, but in practice both his emotions, intelligence and decision process fit much closer to mid-teens, sometimes below, but typically not above. It would make more sense if he was around, or a bit below Taylor's age initially. At least that's how it looks in first 6 chapters.
I blame that to the imbalance of child hormones, the shock of landing in Worm, and my own (well-documented amongst my friends) terrible decision-making.
 
I blame that to the imbalance of child hormones, the shock of landing in Worm, and my own (well-documented amongst my friends) terrible decision-making.
Hormones should mostly influence the emotions. Intelligence.. much less so (hormones don't just rewrite all the existing neural pathways). Especially in a boy below age 13, at this stage the worst hormones rarely begin truly pumping. About decision-making - it can be terrible, but still terrible as adult. It's different. Adults have a large library of experienced mistakes, teenagers usually don't. Adults actually stop to think ahead. Teenagers... less so - their 'ahead' is usually measured in days at best. Combination of these is why even brightest teens very rarely can even get near the worst adults in terms of decisions. This MC? He didn't stop, didn't make any real plans (as far as I seen). Didn't list and compare his options, etc. Those are things that adults just do out of force of habit, because they were pretty much forced to learn them when they were hit by responsibilities. Between this and other tidbits.. yeah, as he is in the text, it is impossible to give him above 15, and sometimes he drops far enough below, that 12 y/o Vista looks outright adult in comparsion.
 

I mean, why should you plan something when the world is going to end, there is extremely high chances you will not survive, and the only thing that can save you is luck? Humans usually despair at the thought that there is no hope, you know?

We're explicitly told that he doesn't actually care about anything many times, and the only reason he decided to "become a hero" was because of Taylor. He has forced himself to adopt the dangerous of mindset of "a man who has nothing to lose". From what we've seen, I don't doubt that if he somehow loses his "family," or even if he was just hurled somewhere into Worm instead of being related to the canon main character he would become Mannequin's more effective twin brother.

Or maybe I am completely wrong, my quasi-psychoanalysis is shit and Peter is just naturally that bad at making decisions.
 
hormones don't just rewrite all the existing neural pathways

But the existing neural pathways are those of a child. His "mind" might be an adult, but it is still in a child's body and that means a child's grey matter. Likewise, there are a lot of adults with shit decision making skills. Entitled people subreddits, and many other places show us shocking displays of stupidity.

And that is removing all accounting for the effects of parahumanism further degrading any decision making skills Peter has.
 
I mean, why should you plan something when the world is going to end, there is extremely high chances you will not survive, and the only thing that can save you is luck? Humans usually despair at the thought that there is no hope, you know?
...have you maybe also read about a guy who after being diagnosed with some sort of brain tumor, that left him with less than a year of life, picked up new profession, engineered a way to safely operate that kind of tumors, and then got it successfully removed? I mean yeah, that was some absolute badass, but... You can't even compare that to MC's situation. Our guy got blueprints for a f.king spaceships on his first day, and with enough time staying hidden and a bit of thinking ahead, there is no chance that he won't be able to at the very least flee the solar system before Golden Morning...

He is in a dangerous spot, but he is ridiculously far from despair zone to act resigned. In fact, he could just build it all from shadows, almost completely safe. Most of the dangers he brought on himself by his own recklessness and lack of planning. I mean, that's one of the reasons why I can't peg him for adult. He didn't even stop to consider his situation, before jumping to conclusion that 'all is lost, let's have some fun while we can'.
 
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Watch our boi get something OP to make a few days before golden morning and open a can of whoop-ass on Zion
 
Watch our boi get something OP to make a few days before golden morning and open a can of whoop-ass on Zion
Remember, Pathfinder is probably limited to avoid giving dimensional travel tech to its host. But then, Pathfinder was among the Shards that were never supposed to be issued during the Cycle. And Pathfinder is, as stated a few programs short of a full operating system
 
Our guy got blueprints for a f.king spaceships on his first day, and with enough time staying hidden and a bit of thinking ahead, there is no chance that he won't be able to at the very least flee the solar system before Golden Morning...

And do what, exactly? Roleplay Out There? Or maybe Among Us with all the peeps he'd take with him on the spaceship. I mean, kudos for you if you can imagine leaving in comfort in outer space while leaving the rest of humanity behind with no hope of meeting any of them for the rest of your life, but most people are social animals and require contact with other members of our species. Yes, even introverts.

More realistically ( lol, for Worm, that is ), he's not gonna even clear the atmosphere before the Simurgh decides that a working spaceship is way too much fun so Peter isn't allowed to have it. And his life/sanity.

Now, fleeing to another dimension is a more valid plan, though I doubt Pathfinder could give him much in terms of escaping Scion, since if the universe in question could be reached through tinkertech, it can be reached by him, too.

There are tons of stories about what you want. Off the top of my head, try out Scientia Weaponizes the Future. Tinker of Fiction SIs are more about emotionally unbalanced people having fun, making friends ( as in, literally making them ), and maybe acting as psychological support for another emotionally unbalanced teenager who seems to be mature but still keeps doing shortsighted shit and committing easily avoidable mistakes.

Well, she has the excuse of being an actual teenager, but eh.
 
...have you maybe also read about a guy who after being diagnosed with some sort of brain tumor, that left him with less than a year of life, picked up new profession, engineered a way to safely operate that kind of tumors, and then got it successfully removed?

I did say "usually". This kind of behavior clearly is an outlier, and not the average. You may tell the story of this wholesome guy, but what about the thousands considering offing themselves right now because of their debts, the death of an loved one, or even isolation, or any kind of reason that is nowhere near as mortal as that? The majority human beings are trapped by something called comfort zone, and the moment they are forced out of that the most common reaction is despair, even if temporary.

This is not aimed at you at all, but I find kinda funny how the people in the fanfiction commuity say so much about how Mary Sues are bad and all, but the moment a character starts acting irrationally like a normal human being suddenly the character is terrible.

Of course, a completely rational being could probably already killed Scion at this point with this power (And that could probably be said to several other Parahumans), probably at the cost of countless lives, but that is not entertaining at all.
 
I've often wondered why SI fics don't start with the protag having the mother of all panic attacks once they realize where they are and that results in them triggering.
 
I've often wondered why SI fics don't start with the protag having the mother of all panic attacks once they realize where they are and that results in them triggering.

Just living on Earth Bet isn't enough to trigger people... barely. Psychological trauma has to be tipped off and compounded on by something more mundane, like getting stuffed in a locker full of biological waste and insects, walking through a minefield, having a psychopathic manchild methodically destroy your sanity in a twisted bid to create a mascot to carry around on his murderhobo roadtrip...
 
Just living on Earth Bet isn't enough to trigger people... barely. Psychological trauma has to be tipped off and compounded on by something more mundane, like getting stuffed in a locker full of biological waste and insects, walking through a minefield, having a psychopathic manchild methodically destroy your sanity in a twisted bid to create a mascot to carry around on his murderhobo roadtrip...
Having your entire existence Ripped out from under you to plug you in the body of someone else, likely someone younger, in a much more damaged and dangerous world than you are used to, and possibly killing the original occupant of that body (you never know anyway) doesn't count?
 
Even having to re-learn locomotion. Adult mind plugged into younger persons body ( or even person with different proportions)... you are going to spend a lot of time flailing, are you have to relearn all the interal references for proprioception. You should and will be looked down upon as being stupidly clumsy and accident prone, .. until and unless some perk gives you back a portion of that control

Edit: this may be amusing me enough to tempt me to take a scouring wheel to my catastrophically rusted writing skill... we shall see
 
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Having your entire existence Ripped out from under you to plug you in the body of someone else, likely someone younger, in a much more damaged and dangerous world than you are used to, and possibly killing the original occupant of that body (you never know anyway) doesn't count?

It doesn't, because it's worse than living on Earth Bet. You don't get it, you need something awful enough, but still milder than being a character in Worm. Otherwise, your brain refuses to process the trauma and shuts down the emotional response.

... I'm shitposing okay.

To be serious, just waking up in Worm and having a panic attack sounds not dramatic enough for a story. Suffering some kind of additional trauma allows the author to: first, create a cooler origin story and second, tailor the power according to the trigger event.

Not everyone is lucky enough to become a Tinker 12 out of the blue, some mundane shmucks have to get stabbed in an Empire attack first, and all they get out of it is some shitty bulletproof skin that makes you lose your sense of tou-

Huh. Worm/Incorruptible crossover when?
 
It doesn't, because it's worse than living on Earth Bet. You don't get it, you need something awful enough, but still milder than being a character in Worm. Otherwise, your brain refuses to process the trauma and shuts down the emotional response.

... I'm shitposing okay.

To be serious, just waking up in Worm and having a panic attack sounds not dramatic enough for a story. Suffering some kind of additional trauma allows the author to: first, create a cooler origin story and second, tailor the power according to the trigger event.

Not everyone is lucky enough to become a Tinker 12 out of the blue, some mundane shmucks have to get stabbed in an Empire attack first, and all they get out of it is some shitty bulletproof skin that makes you lose your sense of tou-

Huh. Worm/Incorruptible crossover when?
Not a bad start, I was thinking more land in worm, have existential crisis about having squashed some poor kid and taken over their body, notice some clue that they are in worm, rush out in blind panic, and promptly bounce down twelve flights of stairs because your legs are shorter than they "should be".

Never the less, that sounds like a decent premise to play with
Edit the 2nd: perhaps we should take the rest of this discussion to a more suitable thread, before we're censured for derailing this one.
Never mind that I can picture the OP rubbing her? hands together and cackling at getting more people throwing their proverbial hats in the ring
 
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