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She's certainly got some kind of internal timetable that we're throwing off. Not sure if it's due to precognition, or if she just has some idea of how our powers are likely to develop she's been planning around.
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The question about Jade's Witch is a good one, but I don't believe Neph is that. I looked for its first apperance (in particular the first times the Georgia font was used[1]) and what apparently was her first line was around the time Agneyastra was fixed.
[1] Other uses of the Georgia font earlier than that:
That's just written text in adungeon
GUILT/DESPAIR/SHAME is Georgia too (EDIT: but It doesn't seem like Neph for me, it's just the newfound feeling of Grief in Jade's soul gem)
Finally, I wonder if
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Ah, good point about the font. I counted Neph's first appearance as the first time Georgia font appeared as right-indented text, but there may have been hints of her before then. Will need to check.
Don't think GUILT/DESPAIR/SHAME was Neph, though, so perhaps Georgia font = magical influence, or something along those lines?
Hestia&theCourt
Turns out we're plural too.
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- In transition
- Pronouns
- She/Her
That sounds about right, but I think we can confirm if anyone remembers which of our many threadmarks has the time where Jade got mind-whammied by whats-her-goddess. If there's no Georgia text, we know your theory is at least in need of refinement.
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- Germany
[X] Let Neph take over for a little while.
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Mention she could tap Magnostadt (RWC) and Agneyastra (RRRRWW)
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
First I wanted to save time by only telling Agneyastra at beyond-human speed and letting her relay to the others. Then I remembered Nanoha and Sidhe have Agni-grade vessels and can understand accelerated telepathy just fine.
Neph doesn't want to disclose her guess on where she comes from, so let's avoid pressuring her. After all, we didn't press the issue when Sidhe evaded the eye-sparkles question:
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Mention she could tap Magnostadt (RWC) and Agneyastra (RRRRWW)
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
First I wanted to save time by only telling Agneyastra at beyond-human speed and letting her relay to the others. Then I remembered Nanoha and Sidhe have Agni-grade vessels and can understand accelerated telepathy just fine.
Neph doesn't want to disclose her guess on where she comes from, so let's avoid pressuring her. After all, we didn't press the issue when Sidhe evaded the eye-sparkles question:
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No Georgia text there, so yeah, refinement needed. Influences coming from the inner depths of Jade's soul, perhaps? Instincts about what constitutes a Red mage likely come from the Spark, while GUILT/DESPAIR/SHAME is obviously Grief corruption in the soul gem.
Although the written dungeon text was probably in Georgia just because it looks elegant, so maybe we should take that as a hint not to try too hard reading into the hidden meanings behind choice of font?
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- A single human dimension
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- She/Her
Although the written dungeon text was probably in Georgia just because it looks elegant, so maybe we should take that as a hint not to try too hard reading into the hidden meanings behind choice of font?
Since the dungeon text was in Georgia for a reason similar to that, I'm sorely tempted to edit it to something else. Read as hard into the other choices of that font as you want.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
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- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
Preferably something mobile friendly?Since the dungeon text was in Georgia for a reason similar to that, I'm sorely tempted to edit it to something else. Read as hard into the other choices of that font as you want.
Would it be needed? Neph seems to know us pretty thorougtly.
Still, I don't think Agneyastra would be easily willing to share her mana to someone who effectively is a stranger wielding Jade's body (and possibly soul too).
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Agneyastra will be just delighted that one of our "personality overlays" chose a name:
Maybe we shouldn't explain Neph beyond "another red personality overlay" for now and remark there's more to tell after we leave Magnostadt? Oh, and before handing over control, ask Agneyastra to share her mana unless we do something else than treating patients.
Maybe we shouldn't explain Neph beyond "another red personality overlay" for now and remark there's more to tell after we leave Magnostadt? Oh, and before handing over control, ask Agneyastra to share her mana unless we do something else than treating patients.
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Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
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- Your nightmares.
We have signs that's either not entirely the case, or that we're otherwise missing some factor in Sky Dragon Slayer magic. Certainly, this view of Ethernano magic is unique to us. If I had to guess, it's either a Planeswalker thing, or an aspect of Enhanced Learning combined with that. We did pick up mana-based teleportation by observing what was likely teleportation via Linker Core magic a while back, and that's definitely operating on principles not aligned with mana.
Plus, on a Doyalist level, if it was functionally similar enough to mana for that, it'd be mana magic. Some aspect of Ethernano magic was so different from mana that Alivaril chose to make it a separate thing. He only did that with magic he couldn't fit into mana magic.
I...don't know if that's accurate. Maybe. But I got the impression that the Planeswalker who isolated these planes from the rest of multiverse died to do so. Even for an Oldwalker, hiding 9 planes from the Eldrazi and isolating them from the multiverse at large seems like a hell of a trick.
It's probably short for "Nephrite". It's one of the two minerals traditionally referred to as "jade".
[X] Let Neph take over for a little while.
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Mention she could tap Magnostadt (RWC) and Agneyastra (RRRRWW)
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
Thus, if Blue ever shows up, we should be calling her Dite?
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Now that you said that and I looked it up in Wikipedia, it seems that the other mineral is called "pyroxene".
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Why isn't that her name?! It has "Pyro" right there! Is that the Blue personalities name?!
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- Actually pretty lost
I don't believe we've bonded to Magnostadt.
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Doh! Yeah, that's probably it.
[X] Let Neph take over for a little while.
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
Don't think we need to include a mention about tapping Magnostadt and Agneyastra, because Neph should already know that. The more time we spend dawdling, the greater the chance of the trance becoming undone.
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Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
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- Your nightmares.
"Deite" would be the more accurate spelling, if you want to chop off the first section of "jadeite". So long as you alter the pronounication, it sounds slightly more like a name, albeit a pretentious one.
Jadeite is a form of pyroxene. That's a group of minerals, not a single mineral. They share part of their structure, but there's a fill-in-the-blank section which is filled by specific combinations of metals, in various oxidation states.
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- He/Him
Forget logic! We have puns to make!
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- Germany
Hence why I prefixed the paragraph with "My personal opinion".
As to Dimensional Hop and Sky Dragon Slayer magic, I didn't say our variants are identical. However, Enhanced Learning helps with understanding magic, so IMHO if we emulate a spell the result should use the same basic principle.
Surya, perhaps? That's merely unbased speculation, though.
Tapping allows Jade to use the mana of the land she's on without a bond. We used it e.g. on a helicopter ride around Uminari and yesterday to gather more mana for summoning our friends.
[X] Let Neph take over for a little while.
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
-[X] Remind her to tell you what she's supposed to be.
Let's make a leap of faith once more, or something? I mean, I guess technically she could probably do something irreversable, but still. An interesting part is that we aren't getting power up from prayer because we are psychologically uncomfortable hearing said prayer. That might actually explain at least parts of Indira - if you need certain mindset to benefit from prayer as a power source, then deliberately cultivating in oneself at least a bit of a god complex to maximize that (for quite possibly good, moral reasons) seems reasonable.
Neph from Nephrite, I guess? A downstream aspect of Jade?
Also, can someone explain this phrase:
Specifically the bolded underlined part. As it is written, it seems to mean that the guy questioning us already knows what the difference is and wants to impact it on us, rather than (what I assume was intended) him wanting to learn the difference.
-[X] Tell the others this is happening.
-[X] Finish your apology and justifications while you're at it. You'd love to do the construct thingie, you really would, but it has problems.
-[X] Remind her to tell you what she's supposed to be.
Let's make a leap of faith once more, or something? I mean, I guess technically she could probably do something irreversable, but still. An interesting part is that we aren't getting power up from prayer because we are psychologically uncomfortable hearing said prayer. That might actually explain at least parts of Indira - if you need certain mindset to benefit from prayer as a power source, then deliberately cultivating in oneself at least a bit of a god complex to maximize that (for quite possibly good, moral reasons) seems reasonable.
Neph from Nephrite, I guess? A downstream aspect of Jade?
Also, can someone explain this phrase:
Specifically the bolded underlined part. As it is written, it seems to mean that the guy questioning us already knows what the difference is and wants to impact it on us, rather than (what I assume was intended) him wanting to learn the difference.
Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
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- Your nightmares.
I guess the Green one should be named "Sod", since sodium is a part of Jadeite.
Needs more testing, but it's probably a good base hypothesis.
Unlikely. Odds are good Surya only had one Walk in his Spark, since PMMM is a pretty crappy plane to live on, and he never seems to have attempted to return home.
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- Germany
Ah, I wasn't aware that could happen.
I had wondered how an experienced red mage like him, plus the planeswalker power-up, could have died without leaving behind signs. So when you indicated the self-sacrifice of a planeswalker between Sylvester and us, that was a potential fate for Surya.
A single-use Spark, if such a thing exists, is a much better explanation, though.
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Jade (and the voterbase) frequently forget about land tapping and Agneyastra's mana, and as Jade didn't seem to consider them IC yet, it can't hurt to mention them.
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- Bowling Green
[X] Let Neph take over for a little while.
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- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
That was a typo on my end, sorry. Fixed.
As long as we tell Mom this isn't a personality overlay beforehand
Since we are on Magnostadt we can tap its mana without a land bond.
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