Hmm, so we could maybe set it up using satellites that could generally avoid being crushed by the constant shifting?
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"Up" is not a consistent direction in Malfeas aside from Ligier being there.
It would however, has a good chance of offending Orabilis or Ligier.
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Sure. The terminals, on the other hand, are still susceptible to Malfeasan random source of destruction. You will also need to bribe a lot of people. Status Quo is serious business in Malfeas.
I will not stop you, but I honestly advise to start small.
A cellular network? Cell phones could be both an import of goods and a service providing firm.
Titanic Spawn Uncountable lets you create First Circles, which you can fluff as them descending from your subsouls if you are so inclined. Titanic Heart Overweening is what you want if you want to make your souls into "true" demons - ie, summonable and able to go out and do their own things. At that stage, they are mechanically equal to demons of the Second Circle (and so can be banished with Sapphire Circle Banishment, etc), even if "metaphysically" they're immature Third Circles who haven't grown enough to spawn their own souls.
I wouldn't if I were you. It's a terrible charm, and not really in-theme for Malfeas - it just exists because people want to try to get around the disadvantages of Witness to Darkness.
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I came up with a heretical charm once that let you bypass the problems caused by charms like WtD or NFV, but I can't remember exactly how it worked. I think it gave you a point of temporary permanent limit per charm affected in exchange for suppressing the nasty side effects until your next episode of Torment.
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Malfeas and subtle don't really go together. At all.
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There are already artifacts for that, though they are mainly used by Unquestionables and Citizens.
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
That's why I hope my players just choose WtD and purchase other Charms from Malfeas.
Well, artifacts aren't anywhere near as easy to produce. Electronics would need power...but fortunately the Green Sun is visible ANYWHERE in Malfeas, so you just need some photovoltaics.
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Is either Rakshata or Lloyd. We already saw that Lancelot is made of Jade, so Lloyd certainly knows magic at least. But he could be a Dragon-blooded too.
This is a good idea, something to look up later. After all Lloyd wanted it in canon, didn't he? It would be nice if he still wanted it here, even if for completely different reasons.
I seriously doubt we can find stable orbits to put the satellites in Malfeas.
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There are better things to expend XP into that in removing the flaws of WtD anyway.
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Get Orablis to cast them burning into the sky....okay that's probably a bad idea.
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Thanks.
Okay, quick question: does Ligier shines upon Cecelyne? Or it's just a black sky until you reach the borders of Malfeas? I can't find out.
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Blue Sky but not sure about what sun hangs in the sky.
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Blue sky? Are you sure?
This of course will be solved by merging the two technologies.
I think the Earthscorpion version of WtD is better designed than the original, more in line with what it was intended to be and the Ebon Dragon's general themes.
Charisma isn't necessarily honesty, it's about how likeable you are. It helps with being honest, but you could be using your social graces on people to make them like you by lying to them - "Ah, you look lovely tonight, madam. It's nice to see you." *no, you're a fat ugly pig and I hate your guts, but I won't tell you that to your face* Lots of lying villains are like that.
Manipulation isn't necessarily deception, either. Bullying, coercion, intimidation, blackmail all fall under Manipulation. "Give me what I want or I'll break your legs." is a statement of Manipulation, and can be totally true. Manipulation is about making people do what you want through purposeful social action.
So yeah, I think I'd rather just go with that version of the Charm and take Glaring Sun's Subtlety off the table. That Charm only works under the dynamic that Charisma is honesty and Manipulation is deception, which is a false paradigm to begin with.
By the by, any permanent features for just WtD and DGP, with no GSS?
I've read it's just a blank black sky. Says so here anyways.
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Not completely sure. It is forbidden for Demons to look at blue and Demons do not look up while crossing the Desert, at the risk of sudden death. AFAIK it was never explicitly stated but I remember some people discussing this on another forum.
@Alexander89: Found the relevant passage in the Malfeas book. Page 113:
Those traveling through Cecelyne move through
vast shifting sands under a cloudless, starless sky. At
times, the green glow of Ligier can be seen on the horizon,
while at others, all is black. During Calibration,
where travel between Creation and Malfeas is easier
and more ordered, the dim light of the Unconquered
Sun is sometimes seen over the distant dunes.
Those traveling through Cecelyne move through
vast shifting sands under a cloudless, starless sky. At
times, the green glow of Ligier can be seen on the horizon,
while at others, all is black. During Calibration,
where travel between Creation and Malfeas is easier
and more ordered, the dim light of the Unconquered
Sun is sometimes seen over the distant dunes.
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Glad to hear it. I hope others will be convinced too.
I saw many authors describing WtD making the eyes completely black or the like, but that's false: it's Obvious only when the Infernal suffer a Crippling effect that blinds him. Staying in direct sunlight doesn't count, and neither do staying directly at the sun. It makes one slightly uncomfortable when under direct sunlight, and only sunlight.
DGP is the same: it plays on the fact that Oramus, while normally more fascinated with things not of Creation, is still one of its Architects and so learned to split his psyche to see two different things at once, and pay equal attention to both. The downside is that said fissure is visible through the eyes and affect others, but Oramus doesn't often care for that. He also pretends sometimes to not have DGP, but that's just him playing the part of a crazy old man.
Mechanically, you can stunt WtD to have obvious effects (like your eyes turning completely black under darkness), but the portal or DGP still remains.
I see. Thanks.
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Alright. Earthscorpion's version of WtD is now official for this quest (see Charms Shop). "Glaring Sun's Subtlety" is not allowed, but other homebrew Malfeas's Charms are...provided they are not too ridiculous.
That aside, beside Enjou's Plan to raise things like Firearms, do any of you want to propose new Xp purchases? Abilities, Charms?
That aside, beside Enjou's Plan to raise things like Firearms, do any of you want to propose new Xp purchases? Abilities, Charms?
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There are things I want done, but I wasn't planning on starting them until we head to Malfeas since Lelouch's schedule is rather packed as is. I've got learning Old Realm in the plan just because we really need it and it shouldn't take more than a couple hours of training, but my understanding is that the Charms take some dedicated training.
We didn't, but if it's not really going to be a burden on Lelouch's time I'm more than willing to vote to do all those.
I imagine we'll be camping out and resting at some points, so training would take place during those times.