Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

Has anyone given a reason for them choosing Paradox? I've given enough points for rage but I have yet to hear why they choose Paradox.

Also I won't be upset if Paradox did get picked, I would just like to know why beyond "Cause it's different"
Well lelouch + precognition is a scary ass combo. Especially when thematically it can be heightened to the point of "free will doesn't exist anymore". Plus it's a chance to play with the Wyld and Wyldshaping. And beyond that paradox as a theme for developing charms from gives us some really useful ways to grow and circumvent our limits. Plus we can totally be an ass by attacking enemies via pacifism so that they both get damaged and look bad for attacking us.
 
I get your point, that's why Sayako fits the theme. I never typed Lunar mate has to submit to Solar.

Fair enough, I apologize for launching an unwarranted attack.

Has anyone given a reason for them choosing Paradox? I've given enough points for rage but I have yet to hear why they choose Paradox.

Also I won't be upset if Paradox did get picked, I would just like to know why beyond "Cause it's different"

Do they need a reason beyond it's cool?

Oramus doesn't really click for me, but I can see why he'd appeal to other people. He is the first of the Primordials, who existed even before they came into existence. The Dragon Beyond the World, who violates the natural order much as how his lesser counterpart violates the moral order, who separates the real from the unreal and cannot be bound by anything other than his own substance.

Well lelouch + precognition is a scary ass combo.

Why would Oramus have precognition when that's Sacheverell's schtick?
 
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[X] Rage


I don't know a massive amount about Exalted but everything I know tells me that Malfeas fits Lelouche more. I mean his entire Geass was about having the authority to bend the world to his will, if that isn't in line with Malfeas I don't know what is.
 
[X] Rage

Honestly, I think Malfeas fits with current Lelouch more than the other Yozi, although nothing stops us from snagging some Oramus charms later on.
 
Do they need a reason beyond it's cool?

Oramus doesn't really click for me, but I can see why he'd appeal to other people. He is the first of the Primordials, who existed even before they came into existence. The Dragon Beyond the World, who violates the natural order much as how his lesser counterpart violates the moral order, who separates the real from the unreal and cannot be bound by anything other than his own substance.

Same, I can understand why as he has some wicked charms. I just feel that Malfeus fits better for Lelouch.

Although I have to wonder, is CC still immortal? or is she flat out dead?

We don't know.
 
I want it because "Secret of the Self Held Fast" and, more importantly, "Assumption of Mu".
We're gonna need to be secret here, these are perfect for that when combined with Ebon Dragon since it means we're pretty much guaranteed never to be found out.
Malfeas is not good at hiding, he's in your face, which Lelouch can not succeed at early on given what he's facing.

Also, Oramus has dream-charms, which are pretty useful given we're gonna be working overtime to handle what we need done (and he can also fuck with his enemies dreams, which is useful).
Also, the stunt pool he can develop will help him always succeed at what he wants.

Plus, Oramus has more subtle social powers than Malfeas, which is always good for Lelouch.
 
It probably doesn't help that those unfamiliar with Infernal Charms (including me) only have gotten to see the cool shit Oramus has and not the other choices.
 
It probably doesn't help that those unfamiliar with Infernal Charms (including me) only have gotten to see the cool shit Oramus has and not the other choices.
Metagaos (Consumption)
Isidoros (Gravity)
Hegra (Chaos)

I couldn't find the charm list for the others but I can say right away the Lelouch doesn't have all that much thematic connection with the ones I found.
 
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It probably doesn't help that those unfamiliar with Infernal Charms (including me) only have gotten to see the cool shit Oramus has and not the other choices.

Here are some examples of what the Yozis are all about:

Malfeas is the fallen King of the Primordials. Before his surrender, he ruled Creation as formless and boundless power. Now, he is a many-layered city of brass and basalt, continuously expanding and contracting in an attempt to seek relief that will never come. Still, Malfeas is bent and broken but not unbowed. His scars serve as a shield against all of the world's woes; his heart burns with killing light that recognizes no barrier to its passage; and his brow is crowned with the tattered remnants of his universal authority.

Cecelyne is the Endless Desert that separates Malfeas from the rest of existence. She is the lawmaker of the Demon City, whose learned cynicism compels her to teach that law is no shield against the sword. As a result, she scourges her lesser with laws that they cannot hope to challenge, even as she scourges her enemies with her silver sands. Cecelyne has been known to provide her bounty to those who come in supplication, but that's because she understands the value of compound interest rather than because of genuine generosity.

She Who Lives In Her Name serves. She is the Principle of Hierarchy, whose crystal exterior of cold logic conceals a heart that burns as fiercely and as ferociously as any of the Primordial Host. Her charms enable her to impose order upon chaos; understand Creation via dissection; and undo changes that run counter to the Primordials' intentions for them. Above all else, she is known for her abhorrence of free will, which she will correct for the sake of perfect efficacy and efficiency.

Adorjan is the most feared of the Yozis. She is the reason that the Demon City is filled with the sound of ceaseless music, for her silence is the silence of the grave. Along among the Yozis, Adorjan bears the Exalted no grudge, for she will teach them to let go of their attachments as they taught her to let go of hers in the Primordial War. She runs fast and free. Not a murderous Buddha, but a murderous Bodhisattva.

Kimbery is the Great Mother, whose ever-changing moods are as predictable as the eternal tide. She loves her children, but because they are flawed, they will inevitably betray her trust in them. As a result, the Sea that Marched Against the Flame is ever prepared to punish them with acid, with poison, with mutation, and with her fathomless waters. Should those fail, she still has her countless children, who make even the greatest sea monsters of Creation seem as though toothless guppies.
 
So I can kinda see Lelouch serving SWLIHN or Cecelnye, but mostly that just reaffirms my belief Lelouch would fit with Malfeas;
  • Cast down from power
  • desire for revenge
  • authority
  • and depending on how the scars as shield was meant to be interpreted, his protection of Nunnally
Also holy shit does Adorjan sound scary as all hell.
 
So I can kinda see Lelouch serving SWLIHN or Cecelnye, but mostly that just reaffirms my belief Lelouch would fit with Malfeas;
  • Cast down from power
  • desire for revenge
  • authority
  • and depending on how the scars as shield was meant to be interpreted, his protection of Nunnally
Also holy shit does Adorjan sound scary as all hell.

Agreed and yes, Adorjan is scary...and so are her infernals. They usually are the more crazy of them all
 
[X] Paradox

Because if we're not going to be wrestling with Knightmare Frames and throwing buildings at people then I'll settle for even further epic plotting powers.
 
Changing to rage. The Ormamus Charms are kinda similar to TED ones. At least Malfeas charms give him some Combat viability.

[X] Rage
 
Also unless I've miscounted. Rage seems to be in the lead

Though people have yet to cross out their old votes.
 
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