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Creticus said:
I think he'd be the most thematically fitting choice.

The Exalted fandom spends a lot of time talking about Solar/Lunar romances, but it's important to remember that Solar/Lunar pairs can be non-romantic nature. Overall, Suzaku was probably Lelouch's greatest enemy as well as Lelouch's greatest friend, while remaining his equal and opposite in a way that other characters never were throughout the series.
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*tilts head* Okay, nothing to say here: you're completely right. But as of now it isn't possible for Suzaku to become a Lunar: they are survivors, and Suzaku is certainly not. Unless he clears out his act and starts living for real. Until it happens no Lunar Exaltation will grace him.
 
Alexander89 said:
*tilts head* Okay, nothing to say here: you're completely right. But as of now it isn't possible for Suzaku to become a Lunar: they are survivors, and Suzaku is certainly not. Unless he clears out his act and starts living for real. Until it happens no Lunar Exaltation will grace him.
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And I really don't want him to be our lunar mate of all goddamn things.
No, if he wants to die, let's indulge in his wish.
 
All these comments are more or less "Hey guys we should let out of character hate that is almost a decade old, and never really made sense unless you were fourteen at the time thus allowing you to ignore the reasoning behind said character and his actions, and FORCE THE MC TO DO SOMETHING HE WOULD NEVER DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME".

So, a circle jerk over the absolute strangest shit. Such as things a guy hasn't even done yet never-minding the fact that not only does Suzaku end up bad ending after killing his only real friend, but he also teams up with that friend. And only went completely bonkers because of the immortal shota and Lulu's big 'Whoops my eye slipped OH GOD EUPHIE NO' moment.

You know that there is a time when you need to sit back and reevaluate your life just a bit? This would be that time.
 
Its a base breaker for the CG fan base. Suzaku and his actions. So its somethimg that would come up once at least
 
I think what galls people the most about Suzaku is his hypocrisy. Him calling Lelouch/Zero out for being a terrorist, while cheerfully ignoring how the Britannian Empire condones and enacts enslavement and genocide.
It's kind of like, say, a French collaborator who joined the Waffen SS condemning his German friend for helping those nasty, evil Polish resistance fighters.
 
Kelenas said:
I think what galls people the most about Suzaku is his hypocrisy. Him calling Lelouch/Zero out for being a terrorist, while cheerfully ignoring how the Britannian Empire condones and enacts enslavement and genocide.
It's kind of like, say, a French collaborator who joined the Waffen SS condemning his German friend for helping those nasty, evil Polish resistance fighters.
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That, and murdering his father and his death wish that flies in the face of almost everything he claims to be
 
can someone explain to me why so many people are voting for paradox ? because while the charms are interesting the fact that his weakness is mundane attacks make me worry for our long term survival , and since we will be able to get other charmsets later should't we get a starting package that won't leave us vulnerable to every random mook under the sun ?
 
Zaratustra said:
can someone explain to me why so many people are voting for paradox ? because while the charms are interesting the fact that his weakness is mundane attacks make me worry for our long term survival , and since we will be able to get other charmsets later should't we get a starting package that won't leave us vulnerable to every random mook under the sun ?
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We can expand to other charmsets, beyond the first two.
 
Zaratustra said:
can someone explain to me why so many people are voting for paradox ? because while the charms are interesting the fact that his weakness is mundane attacks make me worry for our long term survival , and since we will be able to get other charmsets later should't we get a starting package that won't leave us vulnerable to every random mook under the sun ?
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I'm voting for stories, it could be an interesting way of having things. Unlikely to win though.
 
Alexander89 said:
Good god no! I'm definitely going to choose a female.
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I'm guessing this one.

Ninja who can infiltrate anywhere? Checked.
Supermaid who tends to her masters' need and protects them? Checked.
Loyal to the bitter end? Checked.
Kelenas said:
I think what galls people the most about Suzaku is his hypocrisy. Him calling Lelouch/Zero out for being a terrorist, while cheerfully ignoring how the Britannian Empire condones and enacts enslavement and genocide.
It's kind of like, say, a French collaborator who joined the Waffen SS condemning his German friend for helping those nasty, evil Polish resistance fighters.
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What I hate about him is that he dared to think he could 'hardworking' to become the First Knight to take Japan as his personal land/zone, had he ever asked himself what if another 'Suzaku' exist? Like someone too lost his country to Britannia and wanted to do the same thing as him? Conquering more countries, killing more people in the name of Britannia? And then what happened when Suzaku died? I doubt they would "Ah okay Japan is not a colony of Britannia because our First Knight was its master."
Really Suzaku pumped too much into Physical while lacking Mental, meanwhile Lelouch did the opposite thing.
Zaratustra said:
can someone explain to me why so many people are voting for paradox ? because while the charms are interesting the fact that his weakness is mundane attacks make me worry for our long term survival , and since we will be able to get other charmsets later should't we get a starting package that won't leave us vulnerable to every random mook under the sun ?
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Not really, since Lelouch only needed some charms from Malfeas and Adorjan to tank or outrun the attacks, he doesn't need the entire charm tree to do so.
For example I think Lelouch could take Hardened Devil Body, By Pain Reforged and Scar-Writ Saga Shield to avoid getting killed by physical attacks, then Wind Borne Stride, Death-Dealing Journey and Unimpeded Perfection of Exertion to runaway/escape from danger. Total 6 charms.
Besides being Fiend he can learn charms from other Celestial Exalted (Solar, Abyssal, Lunar).
 
touhou ranfuku said:
Ninja who can infiltrate anywhere? Checked.
Supermaid who tends to her masters' need and protects them? Checked.
Loyal to the bitter end? Checked.
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The use of the Lunar bond to explain an instant submissive waifu is part of the reason that the concept sees so much backlash. It's a relationship between equal and opposites: the hero and the monster, the sun and the moon, the Apollonian and the Dionysian. In other words, it's supposed to be Gilgamesh and Enkidu, not the hero and his dog.
 
Creticus said:
The use of the Lunar bond to explain an instant submissive waifu is part of the reason that the concept sees so much backlash. It's a relationship between equal and opposites: the hero and the monster, the sun and the moon, the Apollonian and the Dionysian. In other words, it's supposed to be Gilgamesh and Enkidu, not the hero and his dog.
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I get your point, that's why Sayako fits the theme. I never typed Lunar mate has to submit to Solar.
 
Has anyone given a reason for them choosing Paradox? I've given enough points for rage but I have yet to hear why they choose Paradox.

Also I won't be upset if Paradox did get picked, I would just like to know why beyond "Cause it's different"
 
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