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Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

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[X] Speech and Prayer
[X] Plan Learn About The Cult
[X] Agata
[X] Plan More Essence and Charms
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Krain
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Yonatan
Zaratustra
[X] Agata
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[X] Enjou
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In the next update we will finally meet the rest of Lelouch's Coven. Tomorrow I will out all day, so expects it Tuesday. You have until then to vote.
 
Yonatan said:
What would that make Suzaku? Also an Exalt of some kind, or merely an Enlightened Mortal or something? Assuming it was Suzaku at all.
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You don't need to be an Exalt to use a Warstrider. Suzaku is an Enlightened mortal. Maybe a God-blooded.
And, as has been said in the thread again and again, someone with suicidal ideas (Like Suzaku) can't Exalt except as a Dragon-blooded. Suzaku won't Exalt unless he has a change of motivation.
 
Yonatan said:
I wonder something else: The Lancelot we saw earlier in Shinjuku, assuming it was indeed the Lancelot (which seems reasonable, with Lloyd being a Dragon-Blooded as well and present) was made from Jade, meaning it was a type of Warstrider. What would that make Suzaku? Also an Exalt of some kind, or merely an Enlightened Mortal or something? Assuming it was Suzaku at all.
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Broken25 said:
You don't need to be an Exalt to use a Warstrider. Suzaku is an Enlightened mortal. Maybe a God-blooded.
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Hell, it wasn't even necessarily a Warstrider. There's nothing to say that a Knightmare can't use magical materials in its construction. The use of Jade in its construction doesn't mean anything beyond that - the machine doesn't necessarily run on Essence or require a Hearthstone, and might run entirely on Sakuradite. Now, the Lancelot might work better if Suzaku could attune to it, but given that it's a prototype for the next generation of Knightmares it may well be that they needed someone who couldn't or didn't know how to attune to it, as when they make the mass manufactured model they won't have enough Essence users to do so. Otherwise why would Lloyd have used Suzaku when he could have picked any Dragon-blooded with a talent for Drive?
 
Yonatan said:
Villetta Nu

Blueish Teal.
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landcollector said:
The Code Geass wiki says otherwise:

Edit: Sayoko'd by Yonatan.
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Teal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wiki is absolutely wrong, because her hair is more of a light blueish lavender than teal. It's not even remotely similar to teal. Looking at more pictures I can say it's also more like a gray/silver blue color in some shots and official art. You'd have to be horribly color blind or unaware of what color is called what to consider it teal in any measure of the word. Orange-kun's hair is more teal-like.
 
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Lilithium said:
Teal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wiki is absolutely wrong, because her hair is more of a light blueish lavender than teal. It's not even remotely similar to teal. Looking at more pictures I can say it's also more like a gray/silver blue color in some shots and official art. You'd have to be horribly color blind or unaware of what color is called what to consider it teal in any measure of the word. Orange-kun's hair is more teal-like.
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Lilithium said:
Yes. But her hair still isn't teal >=O
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Most people have a wider variety of what they'd define as 'teal' than that strict definition you might go by, if only because of limited vocabulary. The wiki article includes teal blue as a variant of teal. Use Google Images to look up "teal blue" and you get a wide variety of colors, some of which are close to Viletta's hair color. I've seen other info sites describe her hair as "gray" (with nothing else) which is also wrong. It's like walking into a goddamn paint store and asking for white - there are hundreds of colors that call themselves 'white'.

If her hair was a Crayola crayon color, I'd go with Shadow Blue, Pewter Blue, or Cerulean Frost. Mind you, most people wouldn't know what the fuck you're talking about if you tried to use those colors to describe her hair.

Whatever the case, the story says her hair color is teal, so you and your OCD will just have to suffer the paradox and go mad. Just as Oramus wills it.
 
Ok, so in our coven, we have an Oramos-Favored Fiend, a Hegra-Favored Scourge, and an Isodoros-Favored Malefector. I wonder what yozis our Defiler and...whatever the last Caste is called have favoring them.
 
All right then, so a TED/Oramos, Hegra/Adorjan, Malfeas/Isodoros, Cyclene/Szoreny, and SWLiHN/Cythera. That seems like a pretty good spread, though I admit that maybe getting more Yozi Charmsets to use would be nice.

So, i'm thinking that we could have our Coven split up and each try to convince a Yozi to open up their charms to that member might be a good idea.

I think that Elloge and that Swamp-Yozi might be good complements for our Coven's general sprea and for us and the Slayer respectively. Elloge because she's the story-Yozi, and being able to manipulate those might make things easier in our war against Britannia. Plus, we're a Fiend. Sorcery that helps out communication is definitely useful for us. As for the Swamp-Yozi? When I looked at his charmset it seemed useful for a Slayer. So, who to entreat for the Malefector, Defiler, and Scourge?
 
Going by themes, the Defiler is probably going to be capable of building some truly astonishing explosives. Can't wait to see him/her in action.

ReaperofInterest said:
So, i'm thinking that we could have our Coven split up and each try to convince a Yozi to open up their charms to that member might be a good idea.
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Diversifying is a good idea, but let's not spread our people out too thin too early. There are so few of us, we need to specialize to get the maximum results.
 
Ok, random thought - if Schneizel had ever had the chance to Exalt as an Infernal, he might have possibly been She Who Lives in Her Name's favorite person. His entire plan for world peace boiled down to having a giant gun pointed at everyone's heads and saying "get along or die" - he pretty much wanted to strip people of their free will in the matter. I could totally see him being convinced by SWLiHN that free will is actually the cause of all the world's ills and that if people would just be content to stay in their rightful places everything would be fantastic... let's make sure that he never gets the chance to become an akuma, shall we?

ReaperofInterest said:
All right then, so a TED/Oramos, Hegra/Adorjan, Malfeas/Isodoros, Cyclene/Szoreny, and SWLiHN/Cythera. That seems like a pretty good spread, though I admit that maybe getting more Yozi Charmsets to use would be nice.

So, i'm thinking that we could have our Coven split up and each try to convince a Yozi to open up their charms to that member might be a good idea.

I think that Elloge and that Swamp-Yozi might be good complements for our Coven's general sprea and for us and the Slayer respectively. Elloge because she's the story-Yozi, and being able to manipulate those might make things easier in our war against Britannia. Plus, we're a Fiend. Sorcery that helps out communication is definitely useful for us. As for the Swamp-Yozi? When I looked at his charmset it seemed useful for a Slayer. So, who to entreat for the Malefector, Defiler, and Scourge?
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Personally I'm of the opinion that we should let our Coven members decide which Yozis they want to talk to on their own and when. It should be remembered that even if we are the Coven's clear leader that we'd only be the first among equals, not someone who has full control over them. Taking on Yozi Charms is often a matter of trading away pieces of your humanity for power, and I don't think telling them which pieces they should trade away just for strategic benefit will go over well given how personal a matter it is.

Another thing is that the individuals in question have to convince the Yozis to open their Charm sets, and not every individual will be the type of person every Yozi will be keen on giving their powers over to. I would bet that Oramus isn't likely to be giving out his Charms to anyone else, with Lelouch being a one time deal. And can you see Malfeas really ever really thinking Kaguya is someone who is within his themes? If you're going to try to convince a Yozi to open up their Charm set, you either need a lot of dots in the background for having Yozi backing or you need to be someone they'd consider to be compatible with their Charms.
 
Zaratustra said:
Why would we have to fight Akuma Schneizel ? wouldn't his personal motivation be overwriten by whatever his demon patron (AKA our side) wished it to be ?
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Schneizel's Motivation: Create world peace by eliminating people's ability to choose.
Akuma Schneizel's Motivation/Urge: Create world peace by eliminating people's ability to choose.

The main difference is that Akuma Schneizel has access to SWLiHN's Charms and whatever resources she decides to give him from Hell. Remember that Schneizel is scary because he has no personal attachments - it's like he has no Intimacies outside of his goal of world peace by any means. He's practically got the Charm Cosmic Transcendence of Compassion without actually having the Charm, and maybe a few other version of that Charm as well given his behavior. He seems to have Virtue in the same manner as SWLiHN to a large degree, so not much about him would actually change.

Regarding why we'd have to fight him, it's because the Yozis are not necessarily united. Yes, they all want out, but they all have their own goals and motives. The Ebon Dragon is perfectly fine with engineering his own escape and leaving his fellows trapped so that he can plunge the world into eternal darkness. So long as Malfeas doesn't command her not to, SWLiHN would love to eliminate free will, and if she can do so it'd make the Reclamation a lot easier. One of the plots in Exalted is that Szoreny is planning on turning on the Reclamation in order to get him and his brother Isodoris paroled by Heaven for good behavior. So yes, there may come a point where we'd have to oppose some of the people on our side, and considering that it's inevitable that Lelouch and company will eventually decide the Reclamation is dumb and go off to do their own thing...
 
NHO said:
Sometimes, people are going to vacation and ask mods to ban them temporarily.
Sometimes, people get banned permanently, while they are quite expected in other places, and so other participants of relevant threads get to worry very much, see here

I suggest making a simple, non-rumor-related, way of learning what just happened to friends/opponents/other players.
It could be a thread with short summary and links to related posts/threads in main forum.
It could be a link on "banned" status in his profile.
Anything. Because currently, bans provide no information to majority of forums about what happened.

Also, what happened to @Enjou ?
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foamy said:
There exists such a thread in the internal Staff forum, so that we can keep track of these sorts of things ourselves. I am not comfortable with making that public information.



While normally we don't discuss bans with other people, this particular one warrants some explaining because it's unusual. Apparently, XF is capable of automatically banning people should they exceed traffic limits. In @Enjou's case, it seems it thought Enjou was spamming requests-- @Xon says it looks like he tried opening every page in a 400+ page quest at once-- and locked his account for two days. However it did so by moving him into the "banned" usergroup, which is set up on the basis that everyone in it will have been permanently banned (hence the title of "Banned Forever").

Enjou has not been permabanned and should be back in two days.
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Just crossposting this here, since Enjou is fairly active here, to stop people from bugging the mods over this again.

Current money is a add-on misfiring, or malware on his cpu doing the 400 pages at once bit.
 
Enjou said:
One of the plots in Exalted is that Szoreny is planning on turning on the Reclamation in order to get him and his brother Isodoris paroled by Heaven for good behavior.
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Speaking of which, our combined patrons give us a pretty good lineup of "Most Likely To Betray The Reclaimation".

Oramus does whatever the hell he feels like, Szoreny and Isidoros will do their usual thing.

Not sure about Cythera or Hegra though
 
Enjou said:
Isodoros-favored Slayer, you mean. Our Malefactor, Kaguya, is favored by Szoreny. I think the GM was considering making our Defiler favored by Cytherea.
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Enjou said:
One of the plots in Exalted is that Szoreny is planning on turning on the Reclamation in order to get him and his brother Isodoris paroled by Heaven for good behavior. So yes, there may come a point where we'd have to oppose some of the people on our side, and considering that it's inevitable that Lelouch and company will eventually decide the Reclamation is dumb and go off to do their own thing...
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It strikes me that every member of our Coven is tied more to a "second-string" Yozi (for a given value of second-string).

Anyone think this might be part of some kind of power play or greater plan?

EDIT:Ninja ed by veekie, more or less.
 
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